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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 19:37 GMT
#324
Dammit work with me here.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 19:45 GMT
#334
Rayn, when you disagree with someone, you tend to do so in a tone that comes across as extremely aggressive and personal.

I don't think you intend it, but that's my experience... both in the last game we played and this one.

You can take it for what it is worth.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 19:48 GMT
#338
On October 29 2020 04:46 iamperfection wrote:
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On October 29 2020 04:45 Hapahauli wrote:
Rayn, when you disagree with someone, you tend to do so in a tone that comes across as extremely aggressive and personal.

I don't think you intend it, but that's my experience... both in the last game we played and this one.

You can take it for what it is worth.

it's text you can't have a tone.


The history of human literature says otherwise.

That is the last I'll say on the subject.

Someone talk about my goddamn Slam read.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 19:51 GMT
#342
Third parties have feelings bro.

Although you can think of me more as a bastard child of a townie with a 3rd party prostitute.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 19:57 GMT
#347
On October 29 2020 04:55 iamperfection wrote:
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On October 29 2020 04:51 Hapahauli wrote:
Third parties have feelings bro.

Although you can think of me more as a bastard child of a townie with a 3rd party prostitute.

No no no that is not what you said earlier you said you can win with town that implies a traitor mechanic. Your are not a child of town.


What implies that I have a traitor mechanic? I read your post, but I don't get it.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 20:04 GMT
#358
On October 29 2020 05:00 iamperfection wrote:
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On October 29 2020 04:57 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 29 2020 04:55 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 04:51 Hapahauli wrote:
Third parties have feelings bro.

Although you can think of me more as a bastard child of a townie with a 3rd party prostitute.

No no no that is not what you said earlier you said you can win with town that implies a traitor mechanic. Your are not a child of town.


What implies that I have a traitor mechanic? I read your post, but I don't get it.

??? You said you can win with town. That implies you can win in other ways. Are you saying you can't win with mafia?


I mean... if I was mafia (or mafia aligned), I'd never answer that question honestly, but yes, I cannot win with mafia. My 2nd win condition is factionally independent.

In all seriousness, how does it make any sense for me to openly admit or imply that I have a 2nd mafia-favored win-con?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 20:05 GMT
#361
Shut the fuck up and move on Rayn.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 20:07 GMT
#366
On October 29 2020 05:05 iamperfection wrote:
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On October 29 2020 05:04 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 29 2020 05:00 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 04:57 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 29 2020 04:55 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 04:51 Hapahauli wrote:
Third parties have feelings bro.

Although you can think of me more as a bastard child of a townie with a 3rd party prostitute.

No no no that is not what you said earlier you said you can win with town that implies a traitor mechanic. Your are not a child of town.


What implies that I have a traitor mechanic? I read your post, but I don't get it.

??? You said you can win with town. That implies you can win in other ways. Are you saying you can't win with mafia?


I mean... if I was mafia (or mafia aligned), I'd never answer that question honestly, but yes, I cannot win with mafia. My 2nd win condition is factionally independent.

In all seriousness, how does it make any sense for me to openly admit or imply that I have a 2nd mafia-favored win-con?

You did so accidentally is what I'm saying.


No I didn't? By definition, a 3rd party win condition is factionally independent (at least by all the roles I've seen). Therefore, I can win with town, because I have the option of 1) winning with town and 2) winning with a factionally independent condition.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 20:12 GMT
#372
I don't understand you both.

You spend all this time talking about the importance of making scumreads, and then you talk about incredibly speculative setup stuff. Why?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 20:17 GMT
#378
On October 29 2020 05:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 29 2020 05:12 Hapahauli wrote:
I don't understand you both.

You spend all this time talking about the importance of making scumreads, and then you talk about incredibly speculative setup stuff. Why?

i made scumreads. You and yamato.


Being mad at people and calling the mafia are not scumreads.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 20:23 GMT
#381
I am talking. What do you want?

But frankly, I am not going to engage in this for long if this is just a "Hapa is mafia" echo chamber. I am not diplomatic enough today to deal with that.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 20:29 GMT
#385
On October 29 2020 05:24 iamperfection wrote:
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On October 29 2020 05:23 Hapahauli wrote:
I am talking. What do you want?

But frankly, I am not going to engage in this for long if this is just a "Hapa is mafia" echo chamber. I am not diplomatic enough today to deal with that.

What do you think of yamato's entry post


It is not alignment indicative.

It could be viewed as traditionally "scummy" because it is effectively a "summary post". But I don't think that surface "traditional tells" hold much water.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 20:39 GMT
#391
On October 29 2020 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 29 2020 05:23 Hapahauli wrote:
I am talking. What do you want?

But frankly, I am not going to engage in this for long if this is just a "Hapa is mafia" echo chamber. I am not diplomatic enough today to deal with that.

Acro, Grack ans Shockeyy, why are they what they are?


You and Iamp come across as extremely town in the last few pages because of how your reads are willing to evolve with new information and thought. They haven't evolved in a way that I would have liked, but I do consider the progression organic and in good faith.

Shockeyy just kinda ignores the thread situation around the claim. Honestly, I think that makes him look more townie, because I think that mafia would feel compelled to make some sort of statement about what happened.

Grack's response comes across as slightly-scummy. His post is logically sound, but lacks any paranoia that I would expect from a town response.

Acro's response comes across as slight town. The way his read evolves from "survivor feel free to AFK zzzz" to "I don't trust you" is generally positive. But he lacks the involvement in that discussion that you and Iamp have.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 20:46 GMT
#392
On October 29 2020 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also why are you good with playing with iamperfection and when we are both grilling you for "same" stuff (as i see it) playing with him is cool as fuck and playing with me at the same time is "I am not going to engage in this for long if this is just a "Hapa is mafia" echo chamber.". I mean, we are both calling you mafia at this hour, if your brain works correctly.

Why do you treat me differently than iamp?


It is because you give the impression that you have extremely unrealistic expectations of my play, and that nothing I say or do can convince you that I am not mafia.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 20:49 GMT
#395
On October 29 2020 05:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 05:17 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 29 2020 05:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 05:12 Hapahauli wrote:
I don't understand you both.

You spend all this time talking about the importance of making scumreads, and then you talk about incredibly speculative setup stuff. Why?

i made scumreads. You and yamato.


Being mad at people and calling the mafia are not scumreads.

Who am i mad at?


On October 29 2020 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
replace oput then if you cannot play with me for ??????? fuck you yamato.


You're mad at him, whether you want to admit it or not.

I'm not lynching him for his opening post. He may very well be mafia for other reasons later in the game, but not for that.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 20:51 GMT
#398
On October 29 2020 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 05:46 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 29 2020 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also why are you good with playing with iamperfection and when we are both grilling you for "same" stuff (as i see it) playing with him is cool as fuck and playing with me at the same time is "I am not going to engage in this for long if this is just a "Hapa is mafia" echo chamber.". I mean, we are both calling you mafia at this hour, if your brain works correctly.

Why do you treat me differently than iamp?


It is because you give the impression that you have extremely unrealistic expectations of my play, and that nothing I say or do can convince you that I am not mafia.

okay, find me mafia then.
i have seen none, you are FULLY capable of finding mafia yet you have no scumreads as i know.
what gives?


I have a scumread on Slam. I have repeatedly asked people to comment on it.

It's like you want me to be a supermodel with a 200 IQ and an 8 figure bank account. You can't have it all.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 20:54 GMT
#402
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/564724-aperture-mafia-4-episode-2?page=15#289
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/564724-aperture-mafia-4-episode-2?page=15#298
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 20:57 GMT
#404
And? And what?

My sense is that you're calling me mafia without reading the thread.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 21:02 GMT
#408
This isn't productive. Good night.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 21:12 GMT
#413
I'll give this conversation one more shot.

Give me a minute, I'm just going to write more of a wall-o-text on the slam read.
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