[M][T] Aperture Mafia 4, Episode 2 - Page 19

On November 04 2020 02:04 Koshi wrote:

Not in the immediate future. Let's say that outside pooping a lot of posts that don't make me mafia he hasn't done jack shit today. But his D1 was acceptable and don't see why he is mafia atm.

On November 04 2020 02:08 Koshi wrote:

Slam? I want it more than he wants it.

On November 04 2020 02:09 Koshi wrote:

I"ll answer differently.

If Slam flips town, TTTTT flips town. I must look at somebody else in our group and that would be yamato. Not Hapa. But till that happens I do not want to murder yamato scumhunting wise.

On November 04 2020 02:02 Koshi wrote:

Yes. But not to lynch hapa.

On November 04 2020 02:12 Koshi wrote:
As long as it is not yamato I am happy.

On November 04 2020 02:16 Onegu wrote:



Shockky

On November 04 2020 02:14 Koshi wrote:

I do not want to vote Yamato. The End.

Please show me the possible mafia mindset behind that and I"ll continue this conversation.

Literally anybody would most likely do what the thread says.

I don't want it to be yamato.

Cuz he is irrationally pushing me all day.


HOW IS THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

On November 04 2020 02:14 Koshi wrote:
Please show me the possible mafia mindset behind that and I"ll continue this conversation.
I don't want it to be yamato.

Cuz he is irrationally pushing me all day.

On November 04 2020 02:52 iamperfection wrote:
what do you think of dirkzor's self vote for mayor ?

On November 04 2020 03:01 iamperfection wrote:

it just seems so detached from what is going on

On November 03 2020 05:17 Hapahauli wrote:


This is really interesting, and I think it heavily discounts the Onegu mafia theory. If you are Acro and set up the threads in this way, who is the mislynch target in 1-6? Onegu and Grack are the only realistic mislynch targets here.

Acro doesn't really attempt to push Grack at all, and instead pushes Onegu and Shockeyy for most of the day.

So we have to believe that Onegu and Acro had a plan to bus each other hard for town cred (unlikely, given how inactive Onegu was and generally is), or that Acro's motivations have more face-value to them.

The other thing that sticks out to me is Acro's attempt to goad me into shooting Onegu:





Now I was Roleblocked (seemingly by mafia), so this may have been an "empty" play by Acro. However, if Acro seriously thinks I have KP, and he successfully "convinces" me into shooting Onegu, mafia is committed to Roleblock me for the rest of the game.

I am inclined to take Acro's words at face value once again - mafia generally don't goad third parties into shooting scumbuddies.

On November 03 2020 05:34 Hapahauli wrote:


Let's look at the hypothetical scenario of "scum-Grack" where the declared votes in-thread are:

Acro (5): Hapa, Grack, Shockeyy, Onegu, Dirkzor
Onegu (1): Acro

... in the 5 vote scenario, it doesn't matter what a "scumbuddy" does - Acro still dies, making the scummer's action a moot issue. I believe this is what everyone thought the vote-count was going into the lynch.

Now let's play the 4 vote scenario with "Scum-Grack" with how the vote count actually played out.

Acro (4): Hapa, Grack, Onegu, Dirkzor
Dirk (1): Shockeyy
Onegu (1): Acro

If Dirk swaps his vote to create a no lynch, the effect is the following:
1) Acro is confirmed mafia;
2) Shockeyy is confirmed town.
3) Exactly 1 mafia is in the group of "Hapa/Grack/Onegu/Dirk", which means that 0-3 players can be confirmed town if that mafia dies.

I don't think that is a great outcome for mafia.

If Dirk swaps his vote to create a no lynch, the effect is the following:
1) Acro is confirmed mafia;
2) Shockeyy is confirmed town.
3) Exactly 1 mafia is in the group of "Hapa/Grack/Onegu/Dirk", which means that 0-3 players can be confirmed town if that mafia dies.