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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 17:07 GMT
#1613
On November 04 2020 02:04 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 02:03 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 02:02 Koshi wrote:
On November 04 2020 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi do you wanna get Dirkzor in powah?

Yes. But not to lynch hapa.

do you have a problem with yamato outside of wanting to kill you?

Not in the immediate future. Let's say that outside pooping a lot of posts that don't make me mafia he hasn't done jack shit today. But his D1 was acceptable and don't see why he is mafia atm.

i thought you both wanted to lynch the same person?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 17:09 GMT
#1615
On November 04 2020 02:08 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 02:04 Koshi wrote:
On November 04 2020 02:03 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 02:02 Koshi wrote:
On November 04 2020 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi do you wanna get Dirkzor in powah?

Yes. But not to lynch hapa.

do you have a problem with yamato outside of wanting to kill you?

Not in the immediate future. Let's say that outside pooping a lot of posts that don't make me mafia he hasn't done jack shit today. But his D1 was acceptable and don't see why he is mafia atm.

i thought you both wanted to lynch the same person?

Slam? I want it more than he wants it.

yeah. so why dirkzor?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 17:09 GMT
#1616
do you think yamato is gonna yolo and lynch someone we dont agree on????
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 17:10 GMT
#1618
with one mafia and no town dead atm lol
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 17:10 GMT
#1620
On November 04 2020 02:09 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 02:04 Koshi wrote:
On November 04 2020 02:03 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 02:02 Koshi wrote:
On November 04 2020 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi do you wanna get Dirkzor in powah?

Yes. But not to lynch hapa.

do you have a problem with yamato outside of wanting to kill you?

Not in the immediate future. Let's say that outside pooping a lot of posts that don't make me mafia he hasn't done jack shit today. But his D1 was acceptable and don't see why he is mafia atm.

i thought you both wanted to lynch the same person?

I"ll answer differently.

If Slam flips town, TTTTT flips town. I must look at somebody else in our group and that would be yamato. Not Hapa. But till that happens I do not want to murder yamato scumhunting wise.

what does that have to do with if you want to give mayor to yamato or dirkzor today?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 17:11 GMT
#1621
On November 04 2020 02:02 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi do you wanna get Dirkzor in powah?

Yes. But not to lynch hapa.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 17:11 GMT
#1623
are people just idiots or mafia or am i bad and fuck stupid iamp?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 17:12 GMT
#1627
On November 04 2020 02:12 Koshi wrote:
As long as it is not yamato I am happy.

why?
he wants to lynch slam, you want to lynch slam.
why bad? even if he is mafia why is that bad?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 17:14 GMT
#1630
On November 04 2020 02:12 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 04:52 Onegu wrote:
On October 30 2020 04:37 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 30 2020 04:35 Onegu wrote:
LOL, People saying I am more likely to not do shit as scum is funny. Day 1 I never do shit almost regardless of alignment. And this isnt even day 1 trolololol.


It's n0 and I'm usually the same, but we already had a full day nah mean. So are you saying you won't really partake until D2? If true, then that means you'll do nothing for what will be almost 4 full days, not very town.



Def not what I said. Like we have played together enough even though it is most likely less than everyone else in this game that you should not be that alarmed at my play and like I asked for my item not saying I am going to kill people for it.

If I had a gun I would kill Koshi. If I had 2 guns I would kill you also.

There you go fools my first read, this guy might be mafia.


Which one of the two might have been mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 17:17 GMT
#1633
On November 04 2020 02:16 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 02:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 02:12 Onegu wrote:
On October 30 2020 04:52 Onegu wrote:
On October 30 2020 04:37 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 30 2020 04:35 Onegu wrote:
LOL, People saying I am more likely to not do shit as scum is funny. Day 1 I never do shit almost regardless of alignment. And this isnt even day 1 trolololol.


It's n0 and I'm usually the same, but we already had a full day nah mean. So are you saying you won't really partake until D2? If true, then that means you'll do nothing for what will be almost 4 full days, not very town.



Def not what I said. Like we have played together enough even though it is most likely less than everyone else in this game that you should not be that alarmed at my play and like I asked for my item not saying I am going to kill people for it.

If I had a gun I would kill Koshi. If I had 2 guns I would kill you also.

There you go fools my first read, this guy might be mafia.


Which one of the two might have been mafia?



Shockky

how did that go?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 17:19 GMT
#1634
On November 04 2020 02:14 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 02:12 Koshi wrote:
As long as it is not yamato I am happy.

why?
he wants to lynch slam, you want to lynch slam.
why bad? even if he is mafia why is that bad?

I do not want to vote Yamato. The End.

Please show me the possible mafia mindset behind that and I"ll continue this conversation.

Literally anybody would most likely do what the thread says.

I don't want it to be yamato.

Cuz he is irrationally pushing me all day.


HOW IS THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

fine. i think you are at best stupid and we are voting for yamato, so whatever you are fearing you may fear until eod.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 17:23 GMT
#1635
On November 04 2020 02:14 Koshi wrote:
Please show me the possible mafia mindset behind that and I"ll continue this conversation.
I don't want it to be yamato.

Cuz he is irrationally pushing me all day.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 17:50 GMT
#1636
no?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 17:59 GMT
#1638
On November 04 2020 02:52 iamperfection wrote:
what do you think of dirkzor's self vote for mayor ?

i dont think dirkzor can sway the vote in any way if he is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 18:02 GMT
#1640
On November 04 2020 03:01 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 02:52 iamperfection wrote:
what do you think of dirkzor's self vote for mayor ?

i dont think dirkzor can sway the vote in any way if he is mafia.

it just seems so detached from what is going on

do you think dirkzor thinks he is gonna win the mayoral race?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 18:10 GMT
#1641
i am like 50% the game is solved this phase. if you think it will help i will claim, iamp. that is if you think i am not 100% town. i am if i claim but i dont want to do that for nothing.

i think onegu is taking shit about the threads because he didnt think TT is town and his explanation smells like ass.

i know hapa is bs. i dont know why and i dont know if it hursts us but i know hapa is bs.

Koshi is probably town.

Slam can be mafia.

TT can be mafia.

Grack can be mafia.

Everyone else is town i think, Dirkzor can be 3p but i care less about him than i care about hapa.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 18:14 GMT
#1644
If you believe hapa do you believe him in that grack is not town by dumb tell, because hapa dismissed that?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 18:18 GMT
#1647
On November 03 2020 05:17 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
1.Iamperfection
2. Hapahauli
3. Grackaroni
4. Onegu
5. Dirkzor
6. Acrofales (mafia)

7. ShoCkeyy
8. Alakaslam
9. Tictock
10. Koshi
11. Raynpelikoneet
12. Yamato77

now who gets lynched who is not mafia in each thread? maybe shockeyy was the assumed scapegoat in the second thread. Maybe acrofales was the only mafia in first thread? I wouldnt bank on onegu/grack 1v1 and you definitely dont want to lynch yourself and you cannot pretty much lynch anyone out of iamp/hapa/dirk.


This is really interesting, and I think it heavily discounts the Onegu mafia theory. If you are Acro and set up the threads in this way, who is the mislynch target in 1-6? Onegu and Grack are the only realistic mislynch targets here.

Acro doesn't really attempt to push Grack at all, and instead pushes Onegu and Shockeyy for most of the day.

So we have to believe that Onegu and Acro had a plan to bus each other hard for town cred (unlikely, given how inactive Onegu was and generally is), or that Acro's motivations have more face-value to them.

The other thing that sticks out to me is Acro's attempt to goad me into shooting Onegu:

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 03:35 Acrofales wrote:
If so shoot onegu.


Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 03:46 Acrofales wrote:
On October 30 2020 03:38 Hapahauli wrote:
I know why I would want Onegu shot. Why do you?

He has no intention to play the game. I know onegu is often like this, but more likely he is *completely* useless when scum. He is now *completely* useless and I don't want to waste time, thought or effort on him. So having a self-claimed 3p shoot him seems like a neat solution! And then when he flips scum, you are super unlikely to be scum with him, and it is also less likely you have some weird cultist crap. Could still be SK, but that sounds easy to deal with.


Now I was Roleblocked (seemingly by mafia), so this may have been an "empty" play by Acro. However, if Acro seriously thinks I have KP, and he successfully "convinces" me into shooting Onegu, mafia is committed to Roleblock me for the rest of the game.

I am inclined to take Acro's words at face value once again - mafia generally don't goad third parties into shooting scumbuddies.

first post is not town it's a rehash
On November 03 2020 05:34 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 05:27 iamperfection wrote:
for both grack and onegu why did they lynch their partner then if mafia ?
Surely just lie about your vote no to waste time?


Let's look at the hypothetical scenario of "scum-Grack" where the declared votes in-thread are:

Acro (5): Hapa, Grack, Shockeyy, Onegu, Dirkzor
Onegu (1): Acro

... in the 5 vote scenario, it doesn't matter what a "scumbuddy" does - Acro still dies, making the scummer's action a moot issue. I believe this is what everyone thought the vote-count was going into the lynch.

Now let's play the 4 vote scenario with "Scum-Grack" with how the vote count actually played out.

Acro (4): Hapa, Grack, Onegu, Dirkzor
Dirk (1): Shockeyy
Onegu (1): Acro

If Dirk swaps his vote to create a no lynch, the effect is the following:
1) Acro is confirmed mafia;
2) Shockeyy is confirmed town.
3) Exactly 1 mafia is in the group of "Hapa/Grack/Onegu/Dirk", which means that 0-3 players can be confirmed town if that mafia dies.

I don't think that is a great outcome for mafia.

this is not good

worst posts hapa did all game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 18:21 GMT
#1648

If Dirk swaps his vote to create a no lynch, the effect is the following:
1) Acro is confirmed mafia;
2) Shockeyy is confirmed town.
3) Exactly 1 mafia is in the group of "Hapa/Grack/Onegu/Dirk", which means that 0-3 players can be confirmed town if that mafia dies.

And how is this outcome worse than what it is atm?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 18:22 GMT
#1649
1) Acro is confirmed mafia -- yes
2) Shockeyy is confirmed town. -- yes
3) Exactly 1 mafia is in the group of "Hapa/Grack/Onegu/Dirk", which means that 0-3 players can be confirmed town if that mafia dies. --- is it?
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