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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 28 2020 19:05 GMT
#301
On October 29 2020 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 03:26 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:32 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:18 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote:
Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.

That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.

It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.

I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)

I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?

It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.


meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.

You agree that everyone posting is town?

Which by this point I obv no longer believe. More people have posted since 8

Who is mafia then?

Why is ShoCkeyy both busier than me and capable of more activity?

And hapa duh dude lol.

i dont get it.

is someone mafia in your opinion or not?

ShoCkeyy is a likely candidate and Hapa is not town by his own claim
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 28 2020 19:06 GMT
#302
On October 29 2020 03:35 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 03:26 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:32 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:18 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote:
Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.

That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.

It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.

I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)

I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?

It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.


meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.

You agree that everyone posting is town?

Which by this point I obv no longer believe. More people have posted since 8

Who is mafia then?

Why is ShoCkeyy both busier than me and capable of more activity?

And hapa duh dude lol.


This is how!

+ Show Spoiler +
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It's called multitasking in a meeting :D

Hm. Fair cop.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 19:09 GMT
#303
On October 29 2020 04:05 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:26 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:32 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:18 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote:
Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.

That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.

It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.

I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)

I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?

It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.


meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.

You agree that everyone posting is town?

Which by this point I obv no longer believe. More people have posted since 8

Who is mafia then?

Why is ShoCkeyy both busier than me and capable of more activity?

And hapa duh dude lol.

i dont get it.

is someone mafia in your opinion or not?

ShoCkeyy is a likely candidate and Hapa is not town by his own claim


Is this before or after my multitasking post?
Life?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2020 19:14 GMT
#304
After
table for two on a tv tray
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
October 28 2020 19:16 GMT
#305
On October 29 2020 03:57 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 03:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:49 Hapahauli wrote:
Yeah yeah whatever. I know you’re town and that’s all I care about for now. Have fun screaming at a wall.


How do you know he's town? The only way you know he's town 100% is if you're mafia :O


The way he addressed my claim makes him town. That is how Town-Rayn acts when he is confronted when an "experienced player" does something that doesn't make sense to him.

Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 03:50 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:42 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:29 Hapahauli wrote:
Therrre we go, Slam failed the test.


To elaborate, he did the thing where mafia feels super uncomfortable to get into a discussion about a very chaotic topic (my claim), and instead of getting involved, addressed it in a super round-about way.

That's so much BS


Absolutely not.

This post:

Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 02:17 Alakaslam wrote:
In other words, I agree with Iamp. Scum hunt not mechanics discussion.


and this post:

Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 03:26 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:32 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:18 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote:
Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.

That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.

It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.

I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)

I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?

It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.


meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.

You agree that everyone posting is town?

Which by this point I obv no longer believe. More people have posted since 8

Who is mafia then?

Why is ShoCkeyy both busier than me and capable of more activity?

And hapa duh dude lol.


Are not congruent.


I thought you were walking back on your claim saying it was a gambit of some kind
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 19:17 GMT
#306
On October 29 2020 04:16 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 03:57 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:49 Hapahauli wrote:
Yeah yeah whatever. I know you’re town and that’s all I care about for now. Have fun screaming at a wall.


How do you know he's town? The only way you know he's town 100% is if you're mafia :O


The way he addressed my claim makes him town. That is how Town-Rayn acts when he is confronted when an "experienced player" does something that doesn't make sense to him.

On October 29 2020 03:50 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:42 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:29 Hapahauli wrote:
Therrre we go, Slam failed the test.


To elaborate, he did the thing where mafia feels super uncomfortable to get into a discussion about a very chaotic topic (my claim), and instead of getting involved, addressed it in a super round-about way.

That's so much BS


Absolutely not.

This post:

On October 29 2020 02:17 Alakaslam wrote:
In other words, I agree with Iamp. Scum hunt not mechanics discussion.


and this post:

On October 29 2020 03:26 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:32 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:18 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote:
Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.

That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.

It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.

I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)

I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?

It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.


meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.

You agree that everyone posting is town?

Which by this point I obv no longer believe. More people have posted since 8

Who is mafia then?

Why is ShoCkeyy both busier than me and capable of more activity?

And hapa duh dude lol.


Are not congruent.


I thought you were walking back on your claim saying it was a gambit of some kind


No. I do not fake claim, and to my recollection, I have never fake claimed in a forum game, ever.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2020 19:20 GMT
#307
I want to see the seconds on those posts? Is it possible?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2020 19:22 GMT
#308
Were those planned? It looks like planned because i f5'd one moment and the next 5 sec both were there and you were even answering each other ffs..........
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2020 19:22 GMT
#309
but i dont believe iamp is mafia, itäs like impossible, so fuck.......
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 19:24 GMT
#310
The fuck are you smoking?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
October 28 2020 19:25 GMT
#311
The fuck you talking about timing of posts?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2020 19:25 GMT
#312
On October 29 2020 04:24 Hapahauli wrote:
The fuck are you smoking?

I agree it doesnt make much sense.
table for two on a tv tray
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 19:26 GMT
#313
Lamp and Hapa confirmed mafia.

On October 29 2020 04:24 Hapahauli wrote:
The fuck are you smoking?


On October 29 2020 04:25 iamperfection wrote:
The fuck you talking about timing of posts?


Rayn posted near 4:20, you should know what he's smoking.
Life?
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 28 2020 19:27 GMT
#314
I think this game is probably best played with a bit more close-to-the-vest style of forming reads (especially so in a Day 0 where not much of value can occur), so I am going to refrain from widely commenting on everything I have observed in the thread so far and instead discuss specific points of interest and how they would relate to potential night actions taken by the town in the coming phase.

I think that we absolutely should attempt to limit who visits the Database, and I generally agree with the notion that we should accept volunteers. The interesting point is who they should attempt to target with their action, and in that I think we already have an excellent candidate. Grack, if we continue to believe he is town (for reasons previously stated by others), should absolutely try to find out more about Hapahauli's role. That said, roleblocks may prevent this from happening, but this is the sort of thing we should be trying to do with the Database instead of simply worrying about its effect on game mechanics. Agreed?

I personally cannot be a part of this mission. I believe the most pro-town thing I could do is to take my own personal night action that deals with my role. Other than that, I think the best approach to this cycle will be to simply attempt to coordinate who is doing what and dealing with claims. It is a themed game so these mechanics cannot simply be ignored in favor of "scumhunting" early on in a game when we can't even lynch for a significant period of time.
Writer@WriterYamato
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2020 19:27 GMT
#315
On October 29 2020 00:48 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 00:42 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:39 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:34 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:24 Acrofales wrote:
On October 29 2020 00:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Slightly town.

I did like his thoughts about the game mechanic. However, him thinking critically about the game mechanic can mean any number of things:
1) Pro-town contribution from a player who is thinking about how to get information for the town;
2) A third-party who's win-condition is somehow tied to usage of the TL Mafia Database;
3) A mafia member who has enough extra information about the Database to know that his idea is either pro-mafia or ultimately harmless to mafia's objectives.

I lean towards #1, because the information deficit of town is a disadvantage to town in the theme games I have played.

Do you always post this... constructed?


I try to present my reads in a very constructed format.

That all being said, I'm having a bit of a hard time thinking about how I want to approach this game, because my role has two win conditions. One is that I can win with town, and the other is... a bit strange, but potentially pro-town. I may choose to reveal more as I learn more about the setup.

I hate survivor claims. But yeah, feel free to afk all game. Zzzzz.

What no we force him to win with town I will make him


That's the sprit. I really missed playing with you

a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2020 19:28 GMT
#316
On October 29 2020 04:26 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Lamp and Hapa confirmed mafia.

Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 04:24 Hapahauli wrote:
The fuck are you smoking?


Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 04:25 iamperfection wrote:
The fuck you talking about timing of posts?


Rayn posted near 4:20, you should know what he's smoking.

wouldnt surprise me if i got lynched for that.
wouldnt surprise me if people would not know who to lynch next. :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2020 19:29 GMT
#317
On October 29 2020 04:27 yamato77 wrote:
I think this game is probably best played with a bit more close-to-the-vest style of forming reads (especially so in a Day 0 where not much of value can occur), so I am going to refrain from widely commenting on everything I have observed in the thread so far and instead discuss specific points of interest and how they would relate to potential night actions taken by the town in the coming phase.

I think that we absolutely should attempt to limit who visits the Database, and I generally agree with the notion that we should accept volunteers. The interesting point is who they should attempt to target with their action, and in that I think we already have an excellent candidate. Grack, if we continue to believe he is town (for reasons previously stated by others), should absolutely try to find out more about Hapahauli's role. That said, roleblocks may prevent this from happening, but this is the sort of thing we should be trying to do with the Database instead of simply worrying about its effect on game mechanics. Agreed?

I personally cannot be a part of this mission. I believe the most pro-town thing I could do is to take my own personal night action that deals with my role. Other than that, I think the best approach to this cycle will be to simply attempt to coordinate who is doing what and dealing with claims. It is a themed game so these mechanics cannot simply be ignored in favor of "scumhunting" early on in a game when we can't even lynch for a significant period of time.

the best thing you can do is to tell who is mafia and who is not, and if you fail to do that you are gonna get lynched.
stop spilling shit.
table for two on a tv tray
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 28 2020 19:30 GMT
#318
I truly did not want to play with rayn and I regret that I am in this game already
Writer@WriterYamato
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
October 28 2020 19:33 GMT
#319
On October 29 2020 04:30 yamato77 wrote:
I truly did not want to play with rayn and I regret that I am in this game already

Being a little sensitive
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2020 19:36 GMT
#320
am i being unreasonable?
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