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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 03 2020 22:25 GMT
#1842
On November 04 2020 07:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 04 2020 07:21 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:51 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:43 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
who is mafia iamp?

its in onegu, tt, slam, and dirk and outside chance koshi.

can i ask why? with TT being mafia or not being mafia.

his posts were to good. if i had to guess he actually isnt though looking through his filter real quick.

dumbest iamperfection post of all game.

no it isn't.


Mafia posts sometimes look very clean. Town members are more likely to get into fights and show aggression. His posts are very smart and may be because he has extra information. However if i have to guess with a gun to my head he will flip town thats all im saying and its just a gut feeling really it could be wrong i dont know its a mute point anyways.


but you voted for him?

yeah and i read through his filter again and had some doubts like he had some original thoughts about slam that stick out.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 03 2020 22:27 GMT
#1845
On November 04 2020 06:43 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
who is mafia iamp?

its in onegu, tt, slam, and dirk and outside chance koshi.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 03 2020 22:27 GMT
#1846
On November 04 2020 07:27 iamperfection wrote:
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On November 04 2020 06:43 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
who is mafia iamp?

its in onegu, tt, slam, and dirk and outside chance koshi.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 03 2020 22:27 GMT
#1847
On November 04 2020 07:27 iamperfection wrote:
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On November 04 2020 07:27 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:43 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
who is mafia iamp?

its in onegu, tt, slam, and dirk and outside chance koshi.



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 03 2020 22:31 GMT
#1853
On November 04 2020 07:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If TT is not mafia why is yamato not there?

i said i am guessing he isnt im not sure.

Yamato is town why would he bus acro like that it wasnt needed. He caused the suspicion to be raised on acro in the first place after you.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 03 2020 22:33 GMT
#1856
On November 04 2020 07:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 04 2020 07:31 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 07:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If TT is not mafia why is yamato not there?

i said i am guessing he isnt im not sure.

Yamato is town why would he bus acro like that it wasnt needed. He caused the suspicion to be raised on acro in the first place after you.

i dont think i caused suspicion on acro?

yes you did i called him town and you disagreed
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 03 2020 22:33 GMT
#1859
On November 04 2020 07:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So, check this out.

Hapa claims RB without even knowing if RB gets a pm, then immediately knows to vote Acro D1.

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On November 02 2020 21:59 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 02 2020 21:54 Koshi wrote:
Question Hapa:

Is there a reason for mafia to fear your shot? This is not the gun Onegu was talking about earlier right?


My gun has nothing to do with Onegu... it’s not really a “gun”. It’s more like a zergling all-in.

I presume I was RB’d by mafia N0, so that would indicate some level of fear (see Acro’s fixation on directing my KP).


Why do you need to presume you were RB?

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On November 03 2020 00:24 Hapahauli wrote:
OP says that roleblocks are notified.


Why do you need to check 4 days later if RB are notified? You definitely would have been notified.

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On October 30 2020 21:16 Hapahauli wrote:
I was roleblocked.

Acro, does your ability allow you to control who goes into what thread?


what is this garbage ?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 03 2020 22:35 GMT
#1861
I presume I was RB’d by mafia N0 means hes presuming that mafia did it not that hes presuming he was role blocked at all
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 03 2020 22:38 GMT
#1868
On November 04 2020 07:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
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On November 04 2020 07:35 iamperfection wrote:
I presume I was RB’d by mafia N0 means hes presuming that mafia did it not that hes presuming he was role blocked at all


I don't think town has a rb ability sadly. There's only been one roleblock a night. That throws your theory out the window.

THEN HE WAS ROLEBLOCKED BY MAFIA
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 03 2020 22:49 GMT
#1877
On November 04 2020 07:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iamp, why does hapa need to claim roleblocks are notified about 3 days after he is roleblocked?

he was answering a question by koshi the quote is taken out of context.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 03 2020 23:06 GMT
#1887
On November 04 2020 08:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 03 2020 05:17 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 03 2020 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
1.Iamperfection
2. Hapahauli
3. Grackaroni
4. Onegu
5. Dirkzor
6. Acrofales (mafia)

7. ShoCkeyy
8. Alakaslam
9. Tictock
10. Koshi
11. Raynpelikoneet
12. Yamato77

now who gets lynched who is not mafia in each thread? maybe shockeyy was the assumed scapegoat in the second thread. Maybe acrofales was the only mafia in first thread? I wouldnt bank on onegu/grack 1v1 and you definitely dont want to lynch yourself and you cannot pretty much lynch anyone out of iamp/hapa/dirk.


This is really interesting, and I think it heavily discounts the Onegu mafia theory. If you are Acro and set up the threads in this way, who is the mislynch target in 1-6? Onegu and Grack are the only realistic mislynch targets here.

Acro doesn't really attempt to push Grack at all, and instead pushes Onegu and Shockeyy for most of the day.

So we have to believe that Onegu and Acro had a plan to bus each other hard for town cred (unlikely, given how inactive Onegu was and generally is), or that Acro's motivations have more face-value to them.

This is all nothing but what i said. Literally nothing else than what i said before, hapa just +1'd me. NOTHING. NOT A SINGLE THING.
if you take out the below, which is completely role-related:
The other thing that sticks out to me is Acro's attempt to goad me into shooting Onegu:

On October 30 2020 03:35 Acrofales wrote:
If so shoot onegu.


On October 30 2020 03:46 Acrofales wrote:
On October 30 2020 03:38 Hapahauli wrote:
I know why I would want Onegu shot. Why do you?

He has no intention to play the game. I know onegu is often like this, but more likely he is *completely* useless when scum. He is now *completely* useless and I don't want to waste time, thought or effort on him. So having a self-claimed 3p shoot him seems like a neat solution! And then when he flips scum, you are super unlikely to be scum with him, and it is also less likely you have some weird cultist crap. Could still be SK, but that sounds easy to deal with.


Now I was Roleblocked (seemingly by mafia), so this may have been an "empty" play by Acro. However, if Acro seriously thinks I have KP, and he successfully "convinces" me into shooting Onegu, mafia is committed to Roleblock me for the rest of the game.

I am inclined to take Acro's words at face value once again - mafia generally don't goad third parties into shooting scumbuddies.

he was roleblocked, seemingly by mafia. Okay what else?
Analysis of how he was rb'd by mafia and what it means. super deep lengths? okay you may say that, how is that deeper than my analysis when i dont know what he does?

in the end he wants to take acro's words by face value, i do too, to some point, iamp DOES NOT, but still hapa went to different lengths in analysis than i did. What the fuck man?

i stand by this. good night for real now


We definitely know that iamperfection and I were switched, and Acro really was upset about it. That could mean he wanted to stack three mafia in group one if iamperfection is mafia, if it was 4 mafia vs 2 town, that's not likely, but a 3v3 is more likely, since they would only need one vote to have majority. However, that didn't happen and that may have forced hapa to vote Acro for town cred.

Lol your so bad read acros role.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 03 2020 23:24 GMT
#1894
On November 04 2020 08:21 Hapahauli wrote:
Can someone tell me if anything of value was accomplished in the last 20 pages of filter?

no
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 04 2020 01:18 GMT
#1919
wat
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 04 2020 01:19 GMT
#1923
of course i wouldn't include myself as an option lol
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 04 2020 01:21 GMT
#1927
yamato is asking you guys who you think is mafia if you cant tell by his bolds.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 04 2020 01:24 GMT
#1930
On November 04 2020 10:23 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 08:59 Onegu wrote:
On November 04 2020 08:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 04 2020 08:54 Onegu wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 04 2020 05:52 iamperfection wrote:
you need to just embrace the chaos my friend.


What? as town you'd want to embrace peace. I'm curious why Acro was so upset by you and I switching as I think about it more.


Because would be really dumb for scum to claim it. I flip town time traveler it would focus attn on him. Scum wouldn't want to do this...

My problem with rayn is and I say this in the best possible way even though he is normally a asshole he is never obtuse and he is this game and it's bothering the crap out of me.


Did you read into the last few pages?



Currently reading...

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On November 04 2020 07:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:51 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:43 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
who is mafia iamp?

its in onegu, tt, slam, and dirk and outside chance koshi.

can i ask why? with TT being mafia or not being mafia.

his posts were to good. if i had to guess he actually isnt though looking through his filter real quick.

and you didnt even tell me who is mafia.


thats yamato's way of telling you your being shit onegu.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 04 2020 02:21 GMT
#1953
On November 04 2020 11:19 Onegu wrote:
Hapa only by rayn and that isn't going to happen...


It will be me or slam... I mean I understand but still I mean at least slam was on that side and my role is easily verified, just someone shoot me...

onegu how would that even verify you. it would just verify your role.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 04 2020 04:26 GMT
#1955
On November 04 2020 11:52 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 11:21 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 11:19 Onegu wrote:
Hapa only by rayn and that isn't going to happen...


It will be me or slam... I mean I understand but still I mean at least slam was on that side and my role is easily verified, just someone shoot me...

onegu how would that even verify you. it would just verify your role.



Because I would immediately sacrifice myself at the start of the day

so you would be dead and flipped ?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 04 2020 04:35 GMT
#1957
On November 04 2020 13:31 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 13:26 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 11:52 Onegu wrote:
On November 04 2020 11:21 iamperfection wrote:
On November 04 2020 11:19 Onegu wrote:
Hapa only by rayn and that isn't going to happen...


It will be me or slam... I mean I understand but still I mean at least slam was on that side and my role is easily verified, just someone shoot me...

onegu how would that even verify you. it would just verify your role.



Because I would immediately sacrifice myself at the start of the day

so you would be dead and flipped ?



Yes and preventing all NK and Day Vig if there are any...

and that cant be a mafia role why ?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
November 04 2020 13:15 GMT
#2009
On November 04 2020 22:03 Hapahauli wrote:
Why does mafia-Slam claim that he fucked up his vote in Thread B? Doesn’t that go completely against any sane mafia-use of the secret ballots?

How would he hide among the other voters?
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