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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
October 28 2020 17:13 GMT
#241
On October 29 2020 02:01 Acrofales wrote:
I believe he has some weird 3p wincon. It could perfectly align with town. It could also totally not, and his idea upon reading it was to claim survivor++ so he doesn't have to deal with shit from either team while he egotistically pursues his shit. I agree with grack that claiming 3p as scum in the first few hours is pretty needlessly attention seeking. So straight scum just doesn't seem likely. But claiming if it's a straight "win with town, but extra special win if XXX" seems even more pointless.

TLDR: I believe he's 3p. I don't believe he has any reason to play town-favoured. Other than what town forces him into. So.. for all intents and purposes: survivor.

I haven't yet thought through how this claim would work with a cultist, SK or other definitely anti-town 3p roles. It's probably possible. Especially for something like a cultist. Hell, he's not even lying. He can win with town, as long as all of town is converted into his thralls!

So what's your suggestion ignore him?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2020 17:13 GMT
#242
On October 29 2020 02:11 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 02:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:14 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iamp:

who do you feel comfortable reading in the playerlist and who not:
+ Show Spoiler +
1. Iamperfection
2. Hapahauli
3. Grackaroni
4. Onegu
5. Dirkzor
6. Acrofales
7. ShoCkeyy
8. Alakaslam
9. Tictock
10. Koshi
11. Raynpelikoneet
12. Yamato77

Everybody but acro

I am interested, how do you read me?

I would say town so far. Can't give a strong town read as I have never had those be wrong. But engaged looks like your trying to figure things out.

I was more thinking into how you actually form a read on me, because i dont actually think "engaged" (unless you have your own way of interpreting how my engaging is engaging) as town suits it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2020 17:15 GMT
#243
i have to check to prove my argument but i think shockeyy is mafia.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 28 2020 17:16 GMT
#244
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote:
Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.

That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.

It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.

I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)

I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2020 17:16 GMT
#245
On October 29 2020 01:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 01:47 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:45 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:44 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:40 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:37 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:
hi and bye.

Got meetings, just woke up, and caught up on thread from bed. I'm sure I'll need to re-read but lets say some one from the player list is mafia!

Wtf why bother posting


Please help, this is what my day looks like today and tomorrow isn't any better ugh.

[image loading]

So?


Are you not interested in other towns livelihoods?

No because It looks like your just posting for the sake of posting which is pretty mafia oriented


Well, yes and no. I'm known to be mafia style posting when im town, and town style posting when im mafia.

Is that your way of saying your bad?

You have commented on nothing. Posted that you are busy but then stick around when a tiny bit of heat gets put on you???? Seems like mafia thinking to me


I’m not bad I’ve carried many games and correctly have guessed mafia team many times. I’m a berry analytical person.

I think this is not what shockeyy actually thinks.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
October 28 2020 17:16 GMT
#246
On October 29 2020 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 02:11 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:14 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iamp:

who do you feel comfortable reading in the playerlist and who not:
+ Show Spoiler +
1. Iamperfection
2. Hapahauli
3. Grackaroni
4. Onegu
5. Dirkzor
6. Acrofales
7. ShoCkeyy
8. Alakaslam
9. Tictock
10. Koshi
11. Raynpelikoneet
12. Yamato77

Everybody but acro

I am interested, how do you read me?

I would say town so far. Can't give a strong town read as I have never had those be wrong. But engaged looks like your trying to figure things out.

I was more thinking into how you actually form a read on me, because i dont actually think "engaged" (unless you have your own way of interpreting how my engaging is engaging) as town suits it.

Oh you mean like a meta analysis no I won't do that day 0 if at all.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 28 2020 17:17 GMT
#247
In other words, I agree with Iamp. Scum hunt not mechanics discussion.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2020 17:17 GMT
#248
On October 29 2020 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 01:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:47 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:45 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:44 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:40 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:37 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:
hi and bye.

Got meetings, just woke up, and caught up on thread from bed. I'm sure I'll need to re-read but lets say some one from the player list is mafia!

Wtf why bother posting


Please help, this is what my day looks like today and tomorrow isn't any better ugh.

[image loading]

So?


Are you not interested in other towns livelihoods?

No because It looks like your just posting for the sake of posting which is pretty mafia oriented


Well, yes and no. I'm known to be mafia style posting when im town, and town style posting when im mafia.

Is that your way of saying your bad?

You have commented on nothing. Posted that you are busy but then stick around when a tiny bit of heat gets put on you???? Seems like mafia thinking to me


I’m not bad I’ve carried many games and correctly have guessed mafia team many times. I’m a berry analytical person.

I think this is not what shockeyy actually thinks.

last sentence especially, i dont care about who was right and when or if someone is / thinks they are good or not...
table for two on a tv tray
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
October 28 2020 17:18 GMT
#249
On October 29 2020 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote:
Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.

That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.

It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.

I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)

I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?

It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2020 17:19 GMT
#250
On October 29 2020 02:16 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:11 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:14 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iamp:

who do you feel comfortable reading in the playerlist and who not:
+ Show Spoiler +
1. Iamperfection
2. Hapahauli
3. Grackaroni
4. Onegu
5. Dirkzor
6. Acrofales
7. ShoCkeyy
8. Alakaslam
9. Tictock
10. Koshi
11. Raynpelikoneet
12. Yamato77

Everybody but acro

I am interested, how do you read me?

I would say town so far. Can't give a strong town read as I have never had those be wrong. But engaged looks like your trying to figure things out.

I was more thinking into how you actually form a read on me, because i dont actually think "engaged" (unless you have your own way of interpreting how my engaging is engaging) as town suits it.

Oh you mean like a meta analysis no I won't do that day 0 if at all.

Kind of yes, that's what i meant. I wouldnt have asked but since you said you can do all but Acro, then i got interested.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2020 17:20 GMT
#251
What do YOU want to do Slam, with the TL Mafia Database?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
October 28 2020 17:20 GMT
#252
On October 29 2020 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:47 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:45 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:44 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:40 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:37 iamperfection wrote:
[quote]
Wtf why bother posting


Please help, this is what my day looks like today and tomorrow isn't any better ugh.

[image loading]

So?


Are you not interested in other towns livelihoods?

No because It looks like your just posting for the sake of posting which is pretty mafia oriented


Well, yes and no. I'm known to be mafia style posting when im town, and town style posting when im mafia.

Is that your way of saying your bad?

You have commented on nothing. Posted that you are busy but then stick around when a tiny bit of heat gets put on you???? Seems like mafia thinking to me


I’m not bad I’ve carried many games and correctly have guessed mafia team many times. I’m a berry analytical person.

I think this is not what shockeyy actually thinks.

last sentence especially, i dont care about who was right and when or if someone is / thinks they are good or not...

I mean why would he lie about being an analytical person. Or at least himself thinking that he is an analytical person
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2020 17:22 GMT
#253
On October 29 2020 02:20 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:47 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:45 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:44 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:40 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
[quote]

Please help, this is what my day looks like today and tomorrow isn't any better ugh.

[image loading]

So?


Are you not interested in other towns livelihoods?

No because It looks like your just posting for the sake of posting which is pretty mafia oriented


Well, yes and no. I'm known to be mafia style posting when im town, and town style posting when im mafia.

Is that your way of saying your bad?

You have commented on nothing. Posted that you are busy but then stick around when a tiny bit of heat gets put on you???? Seems like mafia thinking to me


I’m not bad I’ve carried many games and correctly have guessed mafia team many times. I’m a berry analytical person.

I think this is not what shockeyy actually thinks.

last sentence especially, i dont care about who was right and when or if someone is / thinks they are good or not...

I mean why would he lie about being an analytical person. Or at least himself thinking that he is an analytical person

in mafia games i havent seen him as one tbh.... (no offense shockeyy)
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2020 17:22 GMT
#254
idk why he would lie, people do though, when they are mafia
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2020 17:22 GMT
#255
On October 29 2020 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk why he would lie, people do though, when they are mafia

for ???????
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
October 28 2020 17:23 GMT
#256
On October 29 2020 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk why he would lie, people do though, when they are mafia

But he has no reason to lie about that he probably does think that about himself rightly or wrongly
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2020 17:28 GMT
#257
On October 29 2020 02:23 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk why he would lie, people do though, when they are mafia

But he has no reason to lie about that he probably does think that about himself rightly or wrongly

uhh.. well he has done it though, i can look it up for you
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 17:30 GMT
#258
On October 29 2020 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 02:20 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:47 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:45 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:44 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 01:40 iamperfection wrote:
[quote]
So?


Are you not interested in other towns livelihoods?

No because It looks like your just posting for the sake of posting which is pretty mafia oriented


Well, yes and no. I'm known to be mafia style posting when im town, and town style posting when im mafia.

Is that your way of saying your bad?

You have commented on nothing. Posted that you are busy but then stick around when a tiny bit of heat gets put on you???? Seems like mafia thinking to me


I’m not bad I’ve carried many games and correctly have guessed mafia team many times. I’m a berry analytical person.

I think this is not what shockeyy actually thinks.

last sentence especially, i dont care about who was right and when or if someone is / thinks they are good or not...

I mean why would he lie about being an analytical person. Or at least himself thinking that he is an analytical person

in mafia games i havent seen him as one tbh.... (no offense shockeyy)


Non taken, but are you fucking joking rayn?
Life?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 28 2020 17:31 GMT
#259
On October 29 2020 02:18 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote:
Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.

That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.

It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.

I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)

I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?

It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.


meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.
Life?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2020 17:32 GMT
#260
i cannot "prove it" i agree. i just dont think it fits.
can you show how analytical you are shockeyy and provide some reads?
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