EPTI just don't think he would do that as mafia. I also don't think that your case is as strong as let's say why Trfel is mafia. Sure it's something you can easily say looks like mafia doing by narrative (idk if i said that correctly but you know what i mean), but i just don't see it.
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I just don't think he would do that as mafia. I also don't think that your case is as strong as let's say why Trfel is mafia. Sure it's something you can easily say looks like mafia doing by narrative (idk if i said that correctly but you know what i mean), but i just don't see it. | ||
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On July 09 2020 23:22 CopCake wrote: Ticktock Thinks VE used his post to vote for slam Shades Shockey Gives me a town pass in the middle of the dirk gently talk Votes for VE More shade at shockey Slam is town Cake is mafia because she speaks random shit but slam also does the same Nope. First i am gonna say something about this. I don't really think your case on TT is good at all. From what i see you're accusing him of the following things: (1) Last few posts she is fighting against Trfel being lynched because "he was inactive and town last game" yet here she has him as mafia (and this was after his post) as well as Chez. So basically the 2 most inactive ppl this game. (2) Her scumread on me is also really off. Like it reads more like she decided to push me and just keeps saying "I dont buy him being town" or "this feels off" but never explains. (1) I don't really think there is anything scummy in this train of thought? I mean like he is just saying what you did and i can easily see how someone thinks that makes another person mafia. I don't think it makes you mafia but that's what you did yourself and it IS contradictory whether you like it or not. (2) Really off or not but once again, that's what you did. I still have no clue of why you think TT is mafia besides "don't trust TT as town" (which doesn't really mean anything) and this post i quoted from you (which i understand none of). And him making a case on you. But the case is definitely not scummy. It can be wrong sure but it definitely does not make TT mafia. Him forgetting Chezinu is not scummy ever because as Jock said it doesn't even make any sense as mafia. Like there is no reason he should ever think he can gain something by lying about that as mafia regardeless of Chezinu's team. Another thing i wanted to talk about is Shockeyy. I don't really think Jock's case makes Shockeyy mafia. (I do though think it probably makes Jock town so something good there  ). I think you're looking "similar" things in "wrong" perspective. Imo you cannot compare vote count analysis from D1 to other days (which you were doing) because you don't know any alignments, so basically the VCA D1 is a crapshot. Now you are right that it is indeed weird Shockeyy is doign that with ONE vote on several people, and i definitely would want to hear his logic behind this.However, aside fro mthis, i think how shockeyy handled the after-drunken-posting (when he returned) in a really townie way. I don't think he overplayed anything and basically shockeyy's jam D1 is that D1 is useless and he can't have any reads. I think he is playing "towards that" fairly "well", and it fits his town MO imo. I got a small nagging feeling about him actually having town reads so early but that's pretty much all that i think could possibly make shockeyy mafia. But yeah, let's play this a bit further: Shockeyy you said this: On July 09 2020 07:32 ShoCkeyy wrote: My current thoughts are: Alakaslam (1): VisceraEyes Shockeyy (1): Jockmcplop VisceraEyes (1): Tictock Tictock (1): Copcake jockmcplop (1): Alakaslam One of these fuckers are mafia 100%. I meant the ones voting. So you think you are town (obviously), that leaves me, Chezinu and Trfel as the people who are not voting. Why cannot Trfel and Chezinu be mafia together (assuming you think i am town)? Firstly, i have to say that i think there is no reason why Trfel's scumbuddy isn't possibly voting for him right now assuming Trfel is mafia. Votes on him (aside from me and maybe Chezinu?) are basically because he is inactive. That's easy to fix, Trfel just starts posting and you can take off the vote on your scumbuddy. No harm done. However i actually do think Trfel's post in itself looks like a mafia post. Basically i see Trfel as paerson who investigates things and asks questions because there is some sort of contradiction to his own thought process of how things should go and he tries to figure out what the person thinks and if it makes sense or not. See for example him questioning Cake last game at the start of the game. This post though: On July 09 2020 01:57 Trfel wrote: Completely forgot about this game. I thought Tictock was pretty towny last game, care to explain this? ...doesn't reall show any of this. First of all the whole question i nthe first place about TT is really stupid and shows no thinking behind it at all. Because TT was fucking mafia in the last game!!!! Trfel thinking TT was town last game doesn't mean shit because Trfel was WRONG and if TT is town this game, there FOR SURE is a difference in his play (regardless of if anyone can notice it or not at that point). Like the whole question feels like a throwaway thing based on no thinking at all. It just.... doesn't make any sense to me that THIS is what Trfel has to say when he comes and posts. Coming in late makes it more likely you make mistakes as mafia, and i think Trfel made on here. Also a smaller point is that yeah, as i said earlier, people who feel the need to tell that they forgot about the game starting (regardless of if it is true or not) are more likely to be mafia. That's a fact. No matter when you start posting there should be no reason for a townie to feel the need to explain why they haven't been posting so far. | ||
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I don't think Trfel's post is townie. I don't believe he doesn't investigate TT based on meta (based on his first question in game to me) but randomly does that on Slam. I think he is trying to find a lynch and not mafia. Shockeyy just voted a person who is his scumread's (Jock) suspect over someone else. | ||
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On July 08 2020 01:59 GlowingBear wrote: [...] When Lucca went to take his breakfast, he found out Fischer was also there. They sat on the same table and started chatting again. Suddenly, a man in a cape approached. His face couldn't be seen: "Lucca Gallo Ricci?" "Captain 3?" "Come with me." Fischer held Lucca by his arm. "Don't" "Who are you?" asked Captain "I'm fucking Fischer. And my friend is staying. "Lemme go, Fischer" "It's not safe, Lucca" "I won't repeat myself." Said Captain 3. "Get the hell outta here or I'll beat the shit out of you." Both Fischer and Captain sustained eye contact for a brief, intimidating moment. Then Captain 3 punched Fischer in the face, who fell on the ground, fainted. Captain took Lucca by his arm and started running. However, he was blocked by the creation of a Birdcage. Sentinel's hologram appeared and his voice echoed in the room[...] On July 08 2020 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am sorry Lucca he hit me  On July 09 2020 01:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: Idk if Captain or who did that, but we had a nice breakfast at least!! | ||
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On July 10 2020 02:17 ShoCkeyy wrote: I feel terrible voting for slam, however, now that trfel was rolecop, it makes me suspect Jock and Tictock more to be the other half >:O Why not VE instead of let's say Jock? | ||
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Anyways, i don't think Slam should be considered as mafia at least before lylo. | ||
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I don't know really, i am not really reading too much into it atm. | ||
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On July 10 2020 02:32 ShoCkeyy wrote: BS then how did I guess Bamou? The flavor helped me pick him out. From my experience with mafia flavor is also part of the game. That hasn't been a thing for the last ten or so years. | ||
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On July 10 2020 02:40 VisceraEyes wrote: Lack of attention and a decent post by Jock, no real tangible excuse. I'm still at work I hit u after. If you can, could you tell which post by jock? | ||
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On July 10 2020 03:00 Tictock wrote: You said yourself Mafia would be willing to vote a teammate like Trfel off and get towncred, Cake did exactly that. No, that's not what i meant. Read again what i wrote. That was before Trfel got back and started posting. I don't think the towncred matters if your teammate gets lynched (if your team can prevent that -- especially with only 2 mafia). Otherwise mafia would always bus in every mini game D1. | ||
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On July 10 2020 00:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Firstly, i have to say that i think there is no reason why Trfel's scumbuddy isn't possibly voting for him right now assuming Trfel is mafia. Votes on him (aside from me and maybe Chezinu?) are basically because he is inactive. That's easy to fix, Trfel just starts posting and you can take off the vote on your scumbuddy. No harm done. | ||
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