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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On April 01 2020 03:03 Rels wrote: do you think these chats have any chance to be fake? Because I have a very hard time seeing it Do you mean the chats between rayn and Chez? They could be, I wouldn't read much into it | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
We lost our cop AND you guys are both scumreading me and voting for me already over nonsense associations. What a lousy way to wake up  | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On April 01 2020 03:11 Trfel wrote: Are you kidding me? We lost our cop AND you guys are both scumreading me and voting for me already over nonsense associations. What a lousy way to wake up | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
On April 01 2020 03:18 LightningStrike wrote: Done with my exam and didn't do so good on it and I see Trfel is likely suspect by Rels and GB o.o Also didn't expect Shockeyy to die unless he got rolecopped. Will check the votes to see if it changes anything. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On April 01 2020 03:18 LightningStrike wrote: Done with my ewam and didn't do so good on it and I see Trfel is likely suspect by Rels and GB o.o Also didn't expect Shockeyy to die unless he got rolecopped. Will check the votes to see if it changes anything. LS, when did you realize that Sentinel was the rolecopped? Was when he flipped, or was it when someone in the thread said it? | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On April 01 2020 03:15 Rels wrote: If they are fake, I think it would be under raynpelikoneet's direction; it sounds too much like raynpelikoneet. I think it's a decent town indicator for Chezinu but I've also seen mafia go to far greater lengths for deceptions.Trfel what do you think of Chez and rayn chats? | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
On March 28 2020 03:02 Tubesock wrote: Day 1 of quarantine Final Votes KelsierSC: (5) Holyflare, Trfel: (3) GlowingBear: (1) Chezinu ShoCkeyy: (1) Palmar Palmar: (1) ShoCkeyy Holyflare: (0) [UoN]Sentinel: (0) Rels: (0) KelsierSC is set to die with 5 votes The deadline for the day is Friday, Mar 27 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in VOTE THREAD HERE (CLICK ME) Well that didn't change much lol..... | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
On April 01 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote: LS, when did you realize that Sentinel was the rolecopped? Was when he flipped, or was it when someone in the thread said it? You mean when did I realized that shockeyy was rolecopped? Shockeyy died there was no indication that people wouldn't lynch him and was openish to him being lynched. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On April 01 2020 03:22 LightningStrike wrote: You mean when did I realized that shockeyy was rolecopped? Shockeyy died there was no indication that people wouldn't lynch him and was openish to him being lynched. No, I meant, when did you realize Sentinel was the rolecop? Imeddiately with the night post, or when someone pointed it out? | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
On April 01 2020 03:24 LightningStrike wrote: That is the only reason shockeyy would die there is unless he didn't get rolecopped mafia was trying to do the most WIFOM Night Kills this game. Didn't come like I was trying to say. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
On April 01 2020 03:24 GlowingBear wrote: No, I meant, when did you realize Sentinel was the rolecop? Imeddiately with the night post, or when someone pointed it out? The flip. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
On March 31 2020 03:03 LightningStrike wrote: lol...... | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
GlowingBear's post Rels's post @GlowingBear, what do you mean by deflecting suspicion of [UoN]Sentinel? Do you mean not knowing his alignment? If so, yes I read [UoN]Sentinel as null/lurking for most of the game, I have a hard time reading into his posts (before the end of day 2) more than that. Holyflare even admitted to reading [UoN]Sentinel as null for his early posts (which, let's be honest, were most of his posts), so I wasn't alone in that. You just quoted every time I mentioned [UoN]Sentinel, even if I was using his posts to make a point on someone else. You didn't actually read the posts in question. Even the "main point," I clearly explained it by saying that I wanted to see how [UoN]Sentinel's play developed while there were valid reasons to be suspicious of KelsierSC at the time. In retrospect a wrong read, but at the time it was very reasonable. As for towards the end of Day 2, if I were really mafia and wanted to keep [UoN]Sentinel alive, why would I vote for Palmar? I would have instead coordinated with [UoN]Sentinel and stacked votes on GlowingBear and pushed GlowingBear, that would have been the better play by far. Getting Palmar lynched was a much harder play with a low likelihood of success. Furthermore, and most importantly to these last points, if I were mafia, I would know [UoN]Sentinel wasn't going to try and save himself, so I would have voted for him and pushed him much sooner to get towncredit. There is absolutely no mafia motivation for what I did, because it would be the absolute stupidest thing for mafia to do there. [UoN]Sentinel didn't try to keep himself alive, I didn't try to keep him alive, there is literally no reason not to get town credit for the lynch there. I can't really speak much to [UoN]Sentinel's posts. Obviously the implication is false, but in particular the last few posts are worthless to look at. [UoN]Sentinel didn't try to save himself, so his posts at that time are WIFOM because it's obvious he's going to die. Of course he would try to set up the last mafia for an easy mislynch or two. You can't look at those posts as anything more than WIFOM. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
GlowingBear is a tougher case. His posts and pushes have been all over the place. Generally the player with the most posts is town, and that would be GlowingBear here I believe. But two strong town players thought GlowingBear was mafia (Vivax and Holyflare), it's at least worth consideration. His play feels really erratic this game and that confuses me so I need to read him again for sure. I really thought the cop would help us solve the game | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On April 01 2020 03:33 Trfel wrote: I'm not going to quote the stupid association posts because that would take forever. Instead I'll link to them: GlowingBear's post Rels's post @GlowingBear, what do you mean by deflecting suspicion of [UoN]Sentinel? Do you mean not knowing his alignment? If so, yes I read [UoN]Sentinel as null/lurking for most of the game, I have a hard time reading into his posts (before the end of day 2) more than that. Holyflare even admitted to reading [UoN]Sentinel as null for his early posts (which, let's be honest, were most of his posts), so I wasn't alone in that. You just quoted every time I mentioned [UoN]Sentinel, even if I was using his posts to make a point on someone else. You didn't actually read the posts in question. Even the "main point," I clearly explained it by saying that I wanted to see how [UoN]Sentinel's play developed while there were valid reasons to be suspicious of KelsierSC at the time. In retrospect a wrong read, but at the time it was very reasonable. As for towards the end of Day 2, if I were really mafia and wanted to keep [UoN]Sentinel alive, why would I vote for Palmar? I would have instead coordinated with [UoN]Sentinel and stacked votes on GlowingBear and pushed GlowingBear, that would have been the better play by far. Getting Palmar lynched was a much harder play with a low likelihood of success. Furthermore, and most importantly to these last points, if I were mafia, I would know [UoN]Sentinel wasn't going to try and save himself, so I would have voted for him and pushed him much sooner to get towncredit. There is absolutely no mafia motivation for what I did, because it would be the absolute stupidest thing for mafia to do there. [UoN]Sentinel didn't try to keep himself alive, I didn't try to keep him alive, there is literally no reason not to get town credit for the lynch there. I can't really speak much to [UoN]Sentinel's posts. Obviously the implication is false, but in particular the last few posts are worthless to look at. [UoN]Sentinel didn't try to save himself, so his posts at that time are WIFOM because it's obvious he's going to die. Of course he would try to set up the last mafia for an easy mislynch or two. You can't look at those posts as anything more than WIFOM. Deflecting = every time you mentioned him, you preferred to say "I don't like him, but I don't really care, how about this townie who's bad?". Every. Single. Time. You had no reason not vote him immediately day2. Instead you wanted to vote Palmar. You know Palmar COULD be lynched because three townies, Shockey (confirmed), LS (certainly), Rels (probably) were pushing him. When it wasn't getting traction and Sentinel's lynch was certain, you tried to WIFOM town ("omg this lynch is making me uneasy"). Rolecop had no use anymore? Yes. But a Mafia alone today would mean LYLO. He wasn't as expendable as you make it. Its flipped association. It's not WIFOM, it's evidence. Lots of them. If you're town, I'm sorry, but your posts points out to you being very very Mafia. | ||
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