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On September 21 2019 02:19 FreezingFoot wrote: Wait No, you didn't. Ignore this. This is taking a while to fill :/ it's heartbreaking to see TL Mafia so unpopulated... blame the observers. or hf. blaming hf has aleays worked for me. with great power comes responsibility :p hows lex | ||
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I think FF is a liar because he has a pinocchio icon. | ||
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On September 26 2019 04:54 FreezingFoot wrote: FF and Vivax are mafia together There. I said it first. FreezingFoot is now GB Very convincing. Did you come up with that line of your reasoning on your own? | ||
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I was wondering if FF used mod powers to figure out who you were, but I didnt check your post history. | ||
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On a reread, I found it strange that BF found it necessary to comment on nobody posting for six minutes, but mostly I found his reply to GB with the extra spaces forced. I dont see a townie reason for BF to be so distrustful within the first few posts. GB so far looks like hes having fun so he can go to town pile. Hes a pretty good scum player but he tends to go full emo as mafia and fooled me with it in the past iirc. FF feeling offended for the mod power thingy rubs me the wrong way too since I never suggested he actually did it. Mostly mentioned it because it was the reason I got to stare at his icon and see a pinocchio. | ||
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On September 26 2019 21:09 Eywa- wrote: vote:Branch.AUT If you guys are really nice, I might even give you his partner before I get night killed. On September 26 2019 21:41 Eywa- wrote: Branch dismissing me here when he has no reason to believe I'm bad at reading the game is really questionable and just adds onto the many other reasons you guys should be voting here. This is ridiculous? You vote him out of nowhere and complain that hes dismissing you because youre supposedly good at the game. Why should he think that if youre wrong and hes town? And if hes mafia why shouldnt he dismiss you? In abstraction, you have delivered a prime example of damned if I do, damned if I dont. If you dont acknowledge that this is plain BS with a backtrack and a formal apology to the god of logic Im voting you and never unvoting. | ||
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On September 27 2019 03:39 CopCake wrote: Because I cant read him correctly and he was right about rayn last game. And if you poke him he will be like “whatever” because he doesnt care nor engage a convo. I would say that GB is town. FF seems town. Vivax smells mafia. Shockey smells a little bit as mafia, just a little bit. I am curious about one thing with you. And Ewya is null. The fact that you seem to play with your nose and not your eyes could explain a lot tbh. But you could still be mafia so who knows. | ||
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Yeah ok you had that weird prelude where you promised to announce your gosu reads. Thats not what I take issue with, but that it looks like the only reason you had, you posted after he replied and you scumread him. | ||
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if youre town you wouldnt replace your argumentation with the wolffy tone read and implicitly stick to your prpven wrong argumentation. i dont think my initial observation was so hard to understand that his first reaction was to point me to a Fecal post that was unrelated. so, lets lunch eywa plz. ##Vote: eywa | ||
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i would really like to know why gb had this change of heart. does he actually believe eywa figured out the game with that? | ||
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On September 28 2019 02:08 Tubesock wrote: I think you’re wrong here. Eywa scummed him before he did anything, there’s no actions to defend. Eywa essentially did what rayn did when he was my mason partner (scumread hydra before he posted) and Eywa scumread rayn for it too. Branch also dropped a couple reads so wasn’t always defending himself. What is making you doubt that eywa is a good choice to place your vote then? | ||
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pretty hyped for HFs return. he can fall in line for tomorrows lynch because he needs to be bitchslapped for saying he was quitting. almost gave me a haart attack. still leaning on lynching bf but ill think it through better within the next cycle, odds that i get n1dagain are pretty high though. | ||
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Gut wise Im feeling better about a town copcake world. Im a bit irritated that HF is using logic and consistency as means to read her. I think she just isnt used to process large globs of texts like we have been dooing for a decade, so incosistency is to be expected. Really could use less shyness/afkness from tube branch and shockeyy. | ||
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if im not around, try to get something out of him that is readable | ||
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On September 28 2019 20:41 Holyflare wrote: What exactly strikes you as town copcake? Seems ballsy for a mafia cop to go after me first and antagonise you now. but actually its mostly tone and post freeflow if i had to coin an expression | ||
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On September 28 2019 23:40 ShoCkeyy wrote: How am I being a hypocrite? I think it alludes to the fact that you are supposed to prpvide reasoning unlike eywa whom you voted for something almost similar | ||
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On September 29 2019 01:07 CopCake wrote: phone posting is shitty, but I don't get why Branch didnt fight when he said he likes his games with discussions. what? i just skimmed his filter and didnt find the quote where he said that. could you show me. | ||
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Could use a few reads instead of a frothing mouth. | ||
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On September 29 2019 20:52 Branch.AUT wrote: Copcake and HF are obviously showing interested in cooperating to solve the game. Strongest town performance of d2 so far. I appreciate HFs explanation + case on GB, it is built on logical foundations and well argued. As far as Im concerned GB could be a good lynch based on HFs work today. I think you are too easy on HF here, what he has done so far isnt outside the range of what tìhe is capable of as scum. Id give him a freepass today and start being inquisitive around tomorrow. I dont expect that both of the mafia team are high profile players after a night without bloodshed. Going to take a look at GB but he seemed townie to me so far except for the fact he didnt notice how faulty eywas reasoning was when he voted you. Turning a blind eye there is possibly the only reason he can be mafia to me. | ||
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its a long shot guess that they chose a shitty target. so it slightly reduces the odds that HF is mafia. Speculation Im not going to pursue further. Im not lynching GB btw. | ||
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On September 29 2019 22:55 CopCake wrote: Who are you lynching then? Tube for inactivity? Ok you can be mafia because you didint even read my posts and are trying to create a narrative where i voted tube for inactivity. | ||
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since tou are so qualified with analyzing night actions, id say that its you who has to deliver when you are bragging about it. | ||
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On September 30 2019 01:57 CopCake wrote: Could someone please check Shockey and see the natural flow of his reads ~? werent you complaining that he scumread you in a way that doesnt allow justification? why is it natural flow now? | ||
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On September 30 2019 03:05 CopCake wrote: Could you tell me who are the high profile scummplayers and the ones who are not high profiled? HF and GB would be those i consider to be high prfile scumplayers | ||
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And people wonder why nobody plays on TL mafia any more. It's a satanistic mess. | ||
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On October 01 2019 03:42 Holyflare wrote: You just... berated people for going after the modkilled guy too lol. No you are just deprived of black humour it seems | ||
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My guess would be Cop + him at this point. Off chance of HF or GB. Mostly cause I don't trust peeps who capslock for emphasis "OMG LOOK AT ME BEING EMOTIONAL" | ||
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In that case, we're good if nobody sheeps him at LYLO. | ||
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On October 01 2019 04:14 CopCake wrote: Go after another inactive who just became a dad. Tube has been inactive? Don't think so. I'd say BF was the only one who fell into that definition. You're doing it again, twisting my arguments into me going after inactives. First with Tube, now with...Tube. With a bit of social justice warring to give yourself the appearance that you're right. But it's me who has a picture of Lenin hidden in his bedroom, not you. | ||
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On October 01 2019 04:30 FreezingFoot wrote: I lol'd. Vivax, for some reason, I can't trust a thing you say. You seem very disconnected from the game. Who do you think is certainly town? If you could decide next day's lynch, who would that be? I just gave you my scumreads. As for certainly town, no one. Now excuse me, I have a stock market crash to predict for bragging rights. | ||
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On October 02 2019 21:54 Branch.AUT wrote: Surely youre not bragging about trading with insider information on the internet? Insider information? I'm a student rofl. I was just a wizard at seeing it coming. If we ever meet, I'll show you how  | ||
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Time to play. | ||
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On October 02 2019 23:08 CopCake wrote: Since everyone is talking of irl stuff A Skunk entered to my garden :D and attacked one of ny dogs and now all the backyard smells soooooooo bad lmao. The skunk is probably hidden sonewhere still. Now that you mention it there's a porcupine in the garage I need to move. | ||
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Going to need some time to process the thread. | ||
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Another thing I don't understand is how Branch is so sure that his targets got saved instead of being mafia carrying kills. That puts us at a GB/HF impasse. This is what I meant when I said I expect at least 1 high profile mafia player. They could have been saved or as well both be mafia who got jailed when they were carrying a kill, or just one of each. With the rampant shitposting going on today between them, I wouldn't be surprised if they were both mafia being so euphoric that their play worked. Plus, the more HF looks like town, the more likely he is to be scum. | ||
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On October 03 2019 02:56 FreezingFoot wrote: Do you believe: 1) I am mafia and I was carrying the KP n1? 2) HF is mafia and was carrying KP n2? I am town, so mafia knows I was protected. They knew we had either a JK ou a medic. Considering it could be a JK, I don't believe mafia would let Holyflare carry the kill since it's reasonable to consider he could be targeted by the JK. I have a rather big qualm with the bolded. If you are town, what makes you so sure you got hit when it might as well have been a town roleblocker blocking mafia or a vet taking the hit? It seems to me you are too eager to argue purely in your favour here. | ||
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On October 03 2019 03:19 FreezingFoot wrote: Because a vet would auto-claim Because a town roleblocker would've definitely claim since he caught the mafia guy carrying the kp Because there is a JK that protected me, I have been universally townread n1, and no one died I honestly have no idea why anyone should claim without being on the chopping block unless they are cop with a red check or two. Vet must never claim, roleblocker could expect another role in the game leading to the result, although losing a rber isn't really that bad. I'll give it to you that you sound really convinced of yourself. I'll give Tube a read and then HF but hopefully something kills me irl before I have to read through that. | ||
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I also miss quite a bit of emotionality in Tubes posting. But that could be explained away by him being a fresh dad. And as we do with caring parents around here, we kill them with fire for the blood god. Joke aside, something is really rubbing me the wrong way here. People jump onto the guy I was scumreading previously because of unverified claims. It's too good to be true, but kinda tempting. | ||
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On October 03 2019 03:45 FreezingFoot wrote: Any vet should auto-claim after being shot for the sake of not wasting town's discussion on this guy's alignment. If town roleblocker doesn't roleblock the carrier of the KP, we would have a NK day1 It's obvious and I don't know why we are wasting more time on this. Veteran (you have 1 bulletproof vest. If shot at night your vest will break but you will survive. You will die if shot at night a second time. If roleblocked your vest doesn't protect you. You will not be notified if you are shot.) AHEM. Now you're really starting to look a bit too sure of yourself. | ||
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On October 03 2019 03:51 Tubesock wrote: When have I martyred? My play has been described as “comically unemotional” by more than one player in my past games. You only scumread me because I don’t have any hip reads this game. That part where you put yourself in a list of people who should be lynched? On September 29 2019 05:47 Tubesock wrote: I think the lynch pool should be Branch, Boxer and I. The “nightkill” could have been a save, vet or afk team. I think it’s too early to claim, but if it was a save we will know soon enough, but if it’s afk team then that obviously changes stuff. Reasons to lynch Branch: Eywa was town and has a very high correct reads rate. There’s something else I’m going to look at Eywa said, I’ll dig it up. Boxer: policy, and has afk’ed before as mafia. Tube: I’ve been afk, and should be forced to play more, otherwise will always be a question. | ||
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On October 03 2019 03:59 FreezingFoot wrote: ? If you are shot at night you auto-claim the day after. I don't get your point. The point is that vets don't know when they get shot. So how to claim after getting shot? | ||
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Plus he is a saint for that surprise comeback <3 | ||
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On October 03 2019 02:58 FreezingFoot wrote: Vivax, unless something extraordinary happens, this is how the game will follow: 1) We lynch Tubesock and he flips red. Then we lynch you. 2) We lynch Tubesock and he flips green. We lynch holyflare. There's no other option Could you adjust your plan of action to a HF-first lynch ? Purely because I don't understand why I'm mafia if Tubesock is red when I have been advocating for his lynch prior to this day. | ||
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On October 03 2019 07:09 ShoCkeyy wrote: yea surprised I caught you? I mean if we only have one blue the JK, it's easy to fake claim another blue. Why should we just have one blue? What is the great theory you spoke of earlier btw. | ||
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On October 02 2019 02:17 FreezingFoot wrote: You don't think my argument against Shockey is iron clad? Anyway, no one should save HF tonight. ^^ | ||
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On October 02 2019 07:04 FreezingFoot wrote: I'm not mafia. There was no night kill and someone visited me. This is the most basic logic that YOU couldn't follow through as tracker. You decided that MEH I was mafia. Anyway, I am less mad. Gonna be reasonable. [b]##Unvote ##Vote: Tubesock[b] If GB is mafia, one of the reasons is this vote. He was hard scumreading HF and this seems like a kneejerk reaction because he knew he was town and gave up on convincing others. | ||
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GB could you explain why you turned around on your HF read and believed him so quickly, then voted tube? | ||
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On October 04 2019 01:48 Holyflare wrote: I am literally an unCCd blue. If you want to lynch me when I've done nothing but be towny then do whatever the fuck you want. He will not flip town. Mafia are forced to kill me the next night if they don't tonight so it's literally the most self resolving thing in this game. Nope they have to kill branch first. I'd say that the only options on the table today are Tube and GB. Wouldn't be surprised if they were both mafia. Shockeyy shows plenty of not-giving-a-fuckism to warrant being townleaned. | ||
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GB in the meantime seems to have him as lock scum for HFs actions saying that if he isn't wifoming or omgusing, lynching Tube is the rational play. Yet somehow I'm his vote. | ||
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On October 04 2019 02:07 Holyflare wrote: It actually feels like 2 people are playing on her account even because this is a stark difference from her relatively townie rest of the game. One of the posts from Cop actually looked like it came from rayn rofl. Wait I'll go find it. | ||
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On September 27 2019 22:56 CopCake wrote: To answer you I will have to quote you. You are questioning me for locking Ewya town, is my read period. Just like GB is a locked town to me. Reads I feel confident. But instead of telling me “you are wrong, Ewya could be mafia here are some reasons” you are just pointing fingers at me, lowkey I suppose calling me mafia for “budding up” with someone I dont get along. Have the guts and call me mafia and make a better case for it because being “oh but you are calling ewya town so early” is just bullshit. Care to share your reads and not being just small voice trying to pretend to do something? On September 27 2019 23:15 CopCake wrote: And a “magia Eywa” would just throw a randol name and expect people to follow him? That is his mafia game? I am basing my read on interactions, if he changes his personality because early game I didnt see it, then his normal self showed off in the way he answered GB with the random list dot org page. Not saying he is right on his read, if you see I havent voted because my mafia read is Vivax. I dont see the “fallacy” Could you please point me what makes Ewya mafia? A bad read? Early game? Trying to take the charge of town? When we have other two “Veterans” to yell at each other? On September 27 2019 23:56 CopCake wrote: Why would you make this question for a joke? Even worse if it was obvious which FF has the pinocho icon. On September 28 2019 00:03 CopCake wrote: Boxer is town. ^^^^ rayn But tbh I don't care if it is. | ||
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On October 04 2019 02:05 FreezingFoot wrote: Sure Viv. I called you mafia since day1. Yet I shouldn’t be trying to lynch you Yea you have called me mafia before I even wrote anything of substance. On September 26 2019 04:54 FreezingFoot wrote: FF and Vivax are mafia together There. I said it first. FreezingFoot is now GB But hey, you have called me mafia there, so now you don't need to make sense. | ||
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Sounds like the reverse mindfuck stuff from Tube earlier. Stay the course. I'll miss GBs gifs though. Particularly the monty python one was amazing. | ||
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On October 04 2019 02:52 FreezingFoot wrote: I’m so excited to see HF’s reaction after my flip His boner? | ||
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On October 04 2019 03:05 Holyflare wrote: ?????? This is fake as fuck. You said you scum read GB first even. I don't get why you lash out at him for that comment. | ||
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On October 04 2019 03:09 ShoCkeyy wrote: Or at least trying too. I believe that cop being buddy buddy with GB the whole game is what caused me to think they’re both mafia. At least one of them have to be mafia, now we know GB was actually town, which fuck, this sucks. I haven't perceived them as being buddy buddy. What made you think so? Cop voting GB? Are you mafia or as town, how do you get to make such a statement. | ||
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On October 04 2019 03:16 Holyflare wrote: Because he blames me for a wagon he was on for his own original thought. I rather read it as "damn HF, we fucked up" | ||
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On October 04 2019 03:39 CopCake wrote: - Lied several times - Do not want to lynch Shockey WHO is pretty much mafia and lynching him would clear you 100% or tell us if you could be mafia. - Your reasons to mafia read GB * REACTIONSSS * HIS GIFFFFFFF * FOLLOW ME OR YOU ARE MAFIA * HE NEVER MISSES AN OPPORTUNITY TO CALL ME MAFIAAAAA Pls, don't insult my intelligence. Presume it's the best con artist in the work you're talking about. Who btw is a mediocre town player, maybe intentionally but we'll never know. To read HF, you need to take what he looks like to you and reverse it. | ||
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I'm pretty sure you were much more confident that I was mafia than him, besides, that association read is lazy as fuck. | ||
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On October 05 2019 05:07 Tubesock wrote: I think it’s possible you’re just being lazy town. I feel stronger about HF. Which association read are you talking about? The fact that he should be scumreading me. It's actually the main reason I'm townreading him. I'm just that juicy of a target that he couldn't pass on the opportunity. | ||
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On October 06 2019 23:34 CopCake wrote: This sounds soooooooooooo bad because we have fought to death before even if you dont remember. Oh yes. I have also said this about that if you don't remember  On October 04 2019 05:16 Vivax wrote: I have a hard time picturing cop going ham like this during the night phase if she were mafia. There's just no point unless this is some premeditated distancing between her and HF. But I'd rather believe that they are both town and shockey and Tube are the remaining mafia. | ||
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I'd rather kill Tube though, after going a bit over Shockeyy, this post stroke me as townie: On September 30 2019 11:15 ShoCkeyy wrote: I just got to my hotel, going to eat dinner and then catch up on the thread, but in regards to at least the last page: "WHY THE FUCK AM I MORE MAFIA THAN BOXER? IF YOU KNOW BOXER META AS MAFIA? WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY?!!!!!!!! WHY YOU NEVER SAID THIS BEFORE SO PEOPLE COULD LOOK AT BOXER? WHY?" If boxer is currently mafia, then why do I have to go after boxer? I rather go after the mafia I don't know yet. Alright, who would you vote for aside from me that you think is the next mafia member? Cause I already know I'm not, and if you want me to prove you I'm not, I'll sheep you. I haven't been caught up to the game as much, but I'm sure you are, and if we want to test this theory that you're not mafia or I'm not mafia, I'll sheep your second opinion. I already told you who my next two guesses are in mafia, Tube/Boxer, and I've given my reasons for them, but after remembering the early game, I think about GB's switch to Branch. Eywa obviously was town, maybe GB is mafia since that switch to Branch was very uneasy for me. Gave the case of Eywa after I asked for a vote on him. Then Eywa makes a "case" on Branch, and GB easily switches. Idk if this was discussed or not, I have to re-read portions of the thread when I get a chance. I just wanted to at least show up really quick. | ||
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Can we talk about relativity theory or something equally simpler than the answer to that question. | ||
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On October 07 2019 01:41 Holyflare wrote: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/551051-newbie-student-mafia-xxx?page=92#1827 If you read that tube and shockey make perfect sense together. Similarly, the post before it on tube is basically more of the same weird interactions. While I agree that it leaves much to be explained about his Tube read, I don't agree that it is necessarily a case for him being mafia over lazy town. I'm actually starting to wonder if it isn't just you and Cop. Like, Cop has you as lock scum but votes herself first, then votes with you. What's your current take on her? | ||
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I'm pretty sure you've never townread me in this game. | ||
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Grackaroni is the real hero. And HF. | ||
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