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On August 24 2019 02:46 CopCake wrote:
FF’s death means it is at least one veteran.
Or two...
That is a fact.
It literally doesn't mean anything, you cannot tout facts that you have no idea about. Unless you are mafia, of course. FF could have been on to Squishy big time, Squishy kills people that are gunning for him.
FF could have been a blue read and Chezinu is hunting for blues. You don't know a single thing about the night kills and after having called me town the entirety of the game (I'm half tempted to make a case just by quoting your filter posts) it's very opportunistic for you to vote me here.
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I am almost 100% certain rayn has made a rage post like that as mafia by the way, so that is bad meta.
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On August 24 2019 02:44 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 02:30 Jockmcplop wrote:Its so annoying trying to get everyone organized when no-one's ever here  We should have at least 3 people on a wagon already. I am here. I decided it could be HF just by the way he just jumped on rayn’s case against Ewya, I dont want to believe that the rage post comes from mafia rayn. I said it before, the only times I have seen him rage like that he has been town.
Interesting. I was looking at the people who got on eywa's wagon early in the day and never moved. HF is one of those. Chezinu and FF both were at least willing to vote squishy and get the wagon off eywa (who is a great kill for mafia night 2 because his monotonous accusing style gets stronger as the game goes on).
Now he's trying to get me to go back to squishy as well which I don't think is smart actually. Squishy's never mafia killing FF when he spent a whole day setting up the 'jock and FF are communicating' thing as his main read.
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On August 24 2019 02:50 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 02:44 CopCake wrote:On August 24 2019 02:30 Jockmcplop wrote:Its so annoying trying to get everyone organized when no-one's ever here We should have at least 3 people on a wagon already. I am here. I decided it could be HF just by the way he just jumped on rayn’s case against Ewya, I dont want to believe that the rage post comes from mafia rayn. I said it before, the only times I have seen him rage like that he has been town. Interesting. I was looking at the people who got on eywa's wagon early in the day and never moved. HF is one of those. Chezinu and FF both were at least willing to vote squishy and get the wagon off eywa (who is a great kill for mafia night 2 because his monotonous accusing style gets stronger as the game goes on). Now he's trying to get me to go back to squishy as well which I don't think is smart actually. Squishy's never mafia killing FF when he spent a whole day setting up the 'jock and FF are communicating' thing as his main read.
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On August 24 2019 02:45 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 02:43 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 24 2019 02:40 Holyflare wrote:
I don't know why you've gone off squishy being mafia by the way. FF was a big proponent for lynching him wasn't he? Yeah but mafia squishy killing FF makes zero sense in terms of the lynches squishy and copcake were pushing (myself and FF). FF was squishy's lynch vote yesterday, he would have had at least copcake. Killing town FF also discredits both squishy and copcakes main argument for me being scum which was that i was communicating with FF. So all squishy's work so far is gone with FF dead. Squishy just kills the people he scum reads my dude. Vivax n1, FF n2. Seems kind of an obvious pattern? I'll wait to see what new team he comes up with to decide on him finally.
How could I have ever left such big crumbs! Fuck me, gg
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On August 24 2019 02:49 Holyflare wrote:
I am almost 100% certain rayn has made a rage post like that as mafia by the way, so that is bad meta.
Earlier you were hoping to god he did not make it as mafia. What made you now think it is as mafia?
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I am not afraid, make a case.
And I do think squishy is town, mafia tends to blend in and he hasnt. He is very vocal and even with the heat he never lost his cool nor shipped anyone.
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On August 24 2019 02:51 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 02:50 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 24 2019 02:44 CopCake wrote:On August 24 2019 02:30 Jockmcplop wrote:Its so annoying trying to get everyone organized when no-one's ever here We should have at least 3 people on a wagon already. I am here. I decided it could be HF just by the way he just jumped on rayn’s case against Ewya, I dont want to believe that the rage post comes from mafia rayn. I said it before, the only times I have seen him rage like that he has been town. Interesting. I was looking at the people who got on eywa's wagon early in the day and never moved. HF is one of those. Chezinu and FF both were at least willing to vote squishy and get the wagon off eywa (who is a great kill for mafia night 2 because his monotonous accusing style gets stronger as the game goes on). Now he's trying to get me to go back to squishy as well which I don't think is smart actually. Squishy's never mafia killing FF when he spent a whole day setting up the 'jock and FF are communicating' thing as his main read. ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
On August 21 2019 18:21 Holyflare wrote:
Think squishy is mafia too. Too much tmi stuff.
On August 22 2019 04:15 Holyflare wrote:
Eywa the only person other than you that I would vote would be squishy. You down for shenanigans?
On August 22 2019 09:36 Holyflare wrote:
Your only hope is voting squishy I guess.
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On August 24 2019 02:51 reps)squishy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 02:45 Holyflare wrote:On August 24 2019 02:43 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 24 2019 02:40 Holyflare wrote:
I don't know why you've gone off squishy being mafia by the way. FF was a big proponent for lynching him wasn't he? Yeah but mafia squishy killing FF makes zero sense in terms of the lynches squishy and copcake were pushing (myself and FF). FF was squishy's lynch vote yesterday, he would have had at least copcake. Killing town FF also discredits both squishy and copcakes main argument for me being scum which was that i was communicating with FF. So all squishy's work so far is gone with FF dead. Squishy just kills the people he scum reads my dude. Vivax n1, FF n2. Seems kind of an obvious pattern? I'll wait to see what new team he comes up with to decide on him finally. How could I have ever left such big crumbs! Fuck me, gg lmao
Pretty townie post, I approve. Why do you never answer people's questions?
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On August 23 2019 17:59 Jockmcplop wrote:Come on guys I've got loads of time while I'm at work today let's get stuff done. I'm going to make a start: I don't think squishy is mafia any more. Mafia squishy has literally zero reasons to kill FF. That doesn't make sense at all. That means that there's a little bit more PoE data in the thread and I think we can figure this out. Squishy is now my tip top town guy. Possible/likely mafia teams from my POV: HF & Rayn - Nothing would surprise me when it comes to these two and I'm not discounting it as a possibility but something about hf yesterday made me think it was town hf. He has a kind of routine for night 2 that i've noticed although its easily fakeable as mafia i guess. This team kinda makes sense from the point of view of the night kill. FF was working with me or at least willing to - also with myself and him being targets for squishy & copcake they just had to kill one of us and push a mislynch on the other (watch out for hf trying to push a lynch on me today)
Chez & Rayn - Entirely possible - likely even? What can you even say about Chezinu? As the game goes on he should be contributing more, not less, otherwise there's no point in his early game weirdness. He's supposed to survive the early game and then come into his own later not just survive and then disappear. Chez & HF - Well hf seems to not really see chezinu as a possible lynch so far. I don't know if that really tells us anything though. The issue i have with chez being mafia is that he would have been better off killing someone other than FF, like squishy would. Its never a good move for either of them. Copcake & raynMASSIVE FEELINGS ABOUT THIS ONE. I've been townreading copcake all game but now's the time to change my reads completely and copcake's filter when it comes to rayn is dodgy as fuck. No deviation from protecting him at all times: + Show Spoiler +On August 20 2019 23:50 CopCake wrote:
Maybe I am being too nip ticky with the way he anf the others did.
To answer your question, I don’t know I cant see rayn as mafia in this game. The only one I want to lynch atm is FF.
On August 21 2019 12:37 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 12:29 Chezinu wrote:On August 18 2019 02:12 Vivax wrote:
IIRC last time I played with cake I misread her scum because some things in her posts just didn't seem to add up. I'm not going to try that approach again. Cake is getting the inconsistent townie pass. Ok, Eywa... you gotz to let dead people speak for you. This is how you fights back. Yo! HF!!! check this out!! On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that? Because you are scum I believe rayn is scum cause Vivax was after him. Meta has changed so much lately (you know it has changed, you admitted this yourself) that mafia can kill people who come after them and think they will get away with it cause it would be "too obvious!" Hi! I'll fight you if you touch rayn. On August 21 2019 13:00 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 12:50 Chezinu wrote:
Anyways, what do you think about Holyflare? Is his rigid logical style too harsh? Would he play this as mafia to hide his emotions? HF is town. (To me) Because he had been patient mostly. The whole HF vs Rayn reminded me the last game I played here. Besides all the agenda Ewya has been pushing is to separate HF and Rayn. I would dare say that FF has been trying that too with the "This is something HF mafia would do". On August 21 2019 23:27 CopCake wrote:
Thinking about it, it doesnt make sense a Rayn/HF team.
On August 22 2019 00:24 CopCake wrote:
Q: Hey Cake, in your last games... did people call rayn mafia and build cases against him?
Cake: Yes.
Q: Did you call him town?
Cake: Yes.
Q: Was he town?
Cake: Yes.
Q: Were you town in those games?
Cake: Yes.
- shrugs -
I think he is town here also. On August 22 2019 02:16 CopCake wrote:
Rayn is town, why are you doubting him now? Because he “handed in” Ewya?
On August 20 2019 05:10 CopCake wrote:
I don't know what you mean with “leg work” but Rayn explained to Vivax why I am town in his mindset and told me that Vivax is town directly to me. This looks really bad, along with the blatant buddying of squishy. Protect rayn, buddy squishy and go after jock/hf/chezinu. Seems like a perfect plan for copcake to be honest. Squishy I would say don't fall for copcake's buddying at this point. Just because she has relentlessly townread you all game doesn't mean she is town for it. I called you mafia because I thought you were mafia, copcake seemed to know you were town immediately and never deviated from that for a second. Copcake & HF doesn't really make alot of sense. Copcake has been inferring that hf is probably mafia without saying it alot and that doesn't strike me as the kind of thing mafia would do. ie the whole 'one of rayn/hf could be mafia and it isn't rayn' thing.
Copcake & Chezinu is the other likely combination. It could be a thing but I would need help on that because I can't read Chezinu for shit and he doesn't even fit anywhere in my PoE :/ Out of all these the most likely are: So for me, 2/3 of rayn, copcake and chez are likely mafia. I'd like other people's input on this as much as possible please. I think we can get some good action going today but only if people actually turn up and start posting.
I appreciate the town read. I am still leaning town for Cop. But my suspicions of you are alleviated once ff died. I was scared that you two were in cahoots.
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On August 24 2019 02:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 02:51 Holyflare wrote:On August 24 2019 02:50 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 24 2019 02:44 CopCake wrote:On August 24 2019 02:30 Jockmcplop wrote:Its so annoying trying to get everyone organized when no-one's ever here We should have at least 3 people on a wagon already. I am here. I decided it could be HF just by the way he just jumped on rayn’s case against Ewya, I dont want to believe that the rage post comes from mafia rayn. I said it before, the only times I have seen him rage like that he has been town. Interesting. I was looking at the people who got on eywa's wagon early in the day and never moved. HF is one of those. Chezinu and FF both were at least willing to vote squishy and get the wagon off eywa (who is a great kill for mafia night 2 because his monotonous accusing style gets stronger as the game goes on). Now he's trying to get me to go back to squishy as well which I don't think is smart actually. Squishy's never mafia killing FF when he spent a whole day setting up the 'jock and FF are communicating' thing as his main read. ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 18:21 Holyflare wrote:
Think squishy is mafia too. Too much tmi stuff. Show nested quote +On August 22 2019 04:15 Holyflare wrote:
Eywa the only person other than you that I would vote would be squishy. You down for shenanigans? Show nested quote +On August 22 2019 09:36 Holyflare wrote:
Your only hope is voting squishy I guess.
Oh I actually forgot about that I was just looking at the vote thread tbh.
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On August 24 2019 02:54 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 02:51 reps)squishy wrote:On August 24 2019 02:45 Holyflare wrote:On August 24 2019 02:43 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 24 2019 02:40 Holyflare wrote:
I don't know why you've gone off squishy being mafia by the way. FF was a big proponent for lynching him wasn't he? Yeah but mafia squishy killing FF makes zero sense in terms of the lynches squishy and copcake were pushing (myself and FF). FF was squishy's lynch vote yesterday, he would have had at least copcake. Killing town FF also discredits both squishy and copcakes main argument for me being scum which was that i was communicating with FF. So all squishy's work so far is gone with FF dead. Squishy just kills the people he scum reads my dude. Vivax n1, FF n2. Seems kind of an obvious pattern? I'll wait to see what new team he comes up with to decide on him finally. How could I have ever left such big crumbs! Fuck me, gg lmao Pretty townie post, I approve. Why do you never answer people's questions?
Because often times they are blocked text with about 10 question marks. I like questions like yours a single question where I can devote my mental energy.
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On August 24 2019 02:52 reps)squishy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 02:49 Holyflare wrote:
I am almost 100% certain rayn has made a rage post like that as mafia by the way, so that is bad meta. Earlier you were hoping to god he did not make it as mafia. What made you now think it is as mafia?
He has made it as mafia before but this was under absolutely no pressure. It's different but not outside the realm of possibility.
Do you have any idea why rayn made a QQ post this game if he wasn't in any danger of being lynched?
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Who is your new mafia team concoction squishy?
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OK squishy where you at right now? If you had to make a choice this minute who dies? If you go with copcake on hf I've got a hard decision to make because like i said before he's pretty much the hardest one for me to lynch right now (yourself excluded)
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On August 24 2019 02:50 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 02:44 CopCake wrote:On August 24 2019 02:30 Jockmcplop wrote:Its so annoying trying to get everyone organized when no-one's ever here We should have at least 3 people on a wagon already. I am here. I decided it could be HF just by the way he just jumped on rayn’s case against Ewya, I dont want to believe that the rage post comes from mafia rayn. I said it before, the only times I have seen him rage like that he has been town. Interesting. I was looking at the people who got on eywa's wagon early in the day and never moved. HF is one of those. Chezinu and FF both were at least willing to vote squishy and get the wagon off eywa (who is a great kill for mafia night 2 because his monotonous accusing style gets stronger as the game goes on). Now he's trying to get me to go back to squishy as well which I don't think is smart actually. Squishy's never mafia killing FF when he spent a whole day setting up the 'jock and FF are communicating' thing as his main read.
Has HF and Chezinu ever ever interacted?
Also dont come with that HF that you were first, FF called you out with the whole “that is something I can see HF doing to his scummate” and about the whole Rayn “he has raged as mafia” I am talking from MY experience and why didnt you brought that earlier? You even said “I hope you are town because if not I will lose respect”?
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On August 24 2019 02:56 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 02:50 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 24 2019 02:44 CopCake wrote:On August 24 2019 02:30 Jockmcplop wrote:Its so annoying trying to get everyone organized when no-one's ever here We should have at least 3 people on a wagon already. I am here. I decided it could be HF just by the way he just jumped on rayn’s case against Ewya, I dont want to believe that the rage post comes from mafia rayn. I said it before, the only times I have seen him rage like that he has been town. Interesting. I was looking at the people who got on eywa's wagon early in the day and never moved. HF is one of those. Chezinu and FF both were at least willing to vote squishy and get the wagon off eywa (who is a great kill for mafia night 2 because his monotonous accusing style gets stronger as the game goes on). Now he's trying to get me to go back to squishy as well which I don't think is smart actually. Squishy's never mafia killing FF when he spent a whole day setting up the 'jock and FF are communicating' thing as his main read. Has HF and Chezinu ever ever interacted?
I don't think so. That's not saying much though chezinu hasn't interacted with me neither and probably a coupleof other people (I'm literally offended by this).
Checking through chez's filter there are some mild interactions, probably as many if not more than with anyone else to be honest.
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On August 24 2019 02:56 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 02:50 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 24 2019 02:44 CopCake wrote:On August 24 2019 02:30 Jockmcplop wrote:Its so annoying trying to get everyone organized when no-one's ever here We should have at least 3 people on a wagon already. I am here. I decided it could be HF just by the way he just jumped on rayn’s case against Ewya, I dont want to believe that the rage post comes from mafia rayn. I said it before, the only times I have seen him rage like that he has been town. Interesting. I was looking at the people who got on eywa's wagon early in the day and never moved. HF is one of those. Chezinu and FF both were at least willing to vote squishy and get the wagon off eywa (who is a great kill for mafia night 2 because his monotonous accusing style gets stronger as the game goes on). Now he's trying to get me to go back to squishy as well which I don't think is smart actually. Squishy's never mafia killing FF when he spent a whole day setting up the 'jock and FF are communicating' thing as his main read. Has HF and Chezinu ever ever interacted? Also dont come with that HF that you were first, FF called you out with the whole “that is something I can see HF doing to his scummate” and about the whole Rayn “he has raged as mafia” I am talking from MY experience and why didnt you brought that earlier? You even said “I hope you are town because if not I will lose respect”?
No, that's not true. I have interacted with Chezinu once because he was sad I hadn't said anything to him. I thought that was quite a townie thing for him to do. It turns out it might have just been to get me to soften up to him.
The FF thing calling me out is absolutely fabricated by the way. FF quoted a post where I said "Glad to be on the same team, Rayn" because at the time I posted that Rayn had ECHOED MY THOUGHTS. Why would I post that sentence towards Rayn unless he shared the same sentiment as I had already expressed. You can even check the timestamps:
On August 19 2019 00:57 Holyflare wrote:
Eywa-, WARDER, Rayn, FF, Chezinu
Probably contains all mafia.
People I could go either way on: squishy
People in my town list that I could be wrong on: Vivax
On August 19 2019 01:27 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2019 01:14 CopCake wrote:
I know, I know.
HF do you wanna talk to me?
Can you give a read on me? You're in my town list. I liked something you did but can't remember what it was. Something about arguing with jock and having some reasoning for what you posted or something. I dunno. Feel free to ask me any questions but I'll probably end up lynching warder or eywa.
On August 20 2019 05:37 Holyflare wrote:
I mean Eywa's probably mafia so that's something?
On August 20 2019 06:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2019 00:57 Holyflare wrote:
Eywa-, WARDER, Rayn, FF, Chezinu
Probably contains all mafia.
People I could go either way on: squishy
People in my town list that I could be wrong on: Vivax I mean fuck me, if saying Vivax doesn't play as town and giving one scenario that you only do as town is effort then this site really has become minimal af. This is a pointless conversation. Rayn scum read ME and I don't even know if he does anymore, the point was his scum read was a lie. I'm just going to blanket call him town for his emo post though and continue on with my day. That leaves Chezinu, FF, Eywa, Squishy. I'm adding Vivax back because he has also done nothing after the lynch other than say he'll see what I say or something boring. Not putting in any more work than necessary. Is he town? Probably. Does that matter? No.
On August 20 2019 08:20 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2019 18:52 Holyflare wrote:On June 27 2019 18:37 Pandain wrote:
ok sure but im angry so i dont think rational.
also to be frank no one on the slam lynch can take credit for it because it was deliberately a "i have no idea what to do so lynch someone afk" This isn't true. I went for the most amiable lynch in a pool of people that were scum reads. Narrowing down town reads and lynching into a pool isn't just rng and hope, it increases the odds of hitting mafia by a lot. Everyone was looking at least a bit townie. Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 01:37 Holyflare wrote:
I think Pandain and eywa are town for what it's worth. I wouldn't clear rayn because his logic doesn't really hold up but I don't want to get in a shit fight about it so I'll ignore it and see how it goes. I got the feeling jock was overzealous townie that thought he had something on me and that looked good but he's pushed it a smidge too far for my liking so I'm downgrading him.
Conversion/grack/es/rayn/trfl/jock
It's a big list but I really haven't given a shit about the game until now so I'll narrow it down when I'm home. In fact the last two FF games that you were in both times I say the exact same or similar things. Rayn is also a really out of left field read for you to make and I'm at least 50% sure you're trying to make me argue with him more by fueling a scum read on him. I think I'd probably vote you tomorrow over all the afkers even.
On August 20 2019 08:21 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2019 07:05 CopCake wrote:On August 20 2019 05:38 Holyflare wrote:On August 20 2019 05:37 CopCake wrote:On August 20 2019 05:29 Holyflare wrote:On August 20 2019 05:10 CopCake wrote:
I don't know what you mean with “leg work” but Rayn explained to Vivax why I am town in his mindset and told me that Vivax is town directly to me. Leg work means he put in real effort to determine his scum read on people. He is saying that my read on him is bull shit because he put in so much effort that I should read him as an alignment because he spent so much time figuring out both Vivax and yourself. Do those posts look like he put in that effort? It just says Vivax doesn't play as mafia and Copcake is town and nothing more. Does that look like so much effort that we should town read him for it like he says? He put A LOT of effort in the me vs FF trying to explaun why I am town. Like literally a lot. I don't think less than a handful of posts is a lot of effort but that's just me. I also see a way you could be mafia from the situation he says you must be town in so that's why I don't particularly read rayn one way or another. Mistake, read the bolded part as if you were changing your opinion. And now let me ask: who would you lynch rn? From your list. Eywa.
On August 21 2019 07:14 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 03:44 Eywa- wrote:On August 21 2019 03:42 CopCake wrote:On August 21 2019 03:35 Eywa- wrote:
I definitely see the value in scum!jock pocketing these players though. You are not exactly a town read of mine but let’s play a game. In a world in which jock is mafia, who are his mates? Rayn or HF. HF making the most sense. Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 04:00 Eywa- wrote:On August 21 2019 03:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm officially not giving copcake credit for the dumbtell This is fair, but I think there are too many things going against scum!copcake I think Rayn calling him town, the dumbtell along with a few other posts make copcake more likely to flip town than scum. Can't even keep a story straight. Glad to be on your team Rayn.
Rayn's post is 12 hours after my last post saying to lynch Eywa even!
THIS POST IS IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO YOU EVEN.
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So, no, Copcake, none of what you say is true.
Why are you fabricating events to push forward a lynch on me?
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