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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 21 2019 15:03 GMT
#741
Oh wait though, I just figured it out. Maybe Rayn thought town was going to lose because scum was afk all of day 1. That must be it... I always think town is going to lose when I'm scum reading an afk slot.

+ Show Spoiler +
/SARCASM
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 21 2019 15:05 GMT
#742
Seriously guys, think about it... RAYN said "This is going to end badly for town" when I was afk... And he's scum reading my slot...?

How would you think it's going to end badly for town if scum is afk? Shouldn't those be the easiest of games?
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 21 2019 15:07 GMT
#743
Day Two Vote Count

Eywa (6): raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, Fecalfest, Chezinu, Copcake, jockmcplop
raynpelikoneet (1): Eywa
FecalFeast (1): reps)squishy
reps)squishy (0): FecalFeast, jockmcplop
Holyflare (0): Chezinu
jockmcplop (0): FecalFeast

Not Voting (0): None

I suppose the convenient theory is that it's just me and squishy... Any other theory pretty much indicates that you should move the wagon elsewhere.
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 15:16 GMT
#744
On August 21 2019 23:48 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 23:27 CopCake wrote:
Thinking about it, it doesnt make sense a Rayn/HF team.




Thinking about it??? Did you even read the posts against eywa??


I gave her the benefit of the doubt and tried to see her perspective, remember last game when we killed our cop?

I like to sit down and think if it could be possible.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 15:24 GMT
#745
Q: Hey Cake, in your last games... did people call rayn mafia and build cases against him?

Cake: Yes.

Q: Did you call him town?

Cake: Yes.

Q: Was he town?

Cake: Yes.

Q: Were you town in those games?

Cake: Yes.

- shrugs -

I think he is town here also.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 21 2019 15:35 GMT
#746
So, kill me today, then vote Rayn tomorrow, HF day 4... HF seems to have an unsually high amount of his posts claiming what his reads are and who he's going to vote, also a decent number of non-game related posts... Page 2 of his filter is especially bad in this regard and very unlike his town game.

About 25% of posts claiming his reads is pretty high for HF who is usually more inquisitive.

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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 21 2019 15:36 GMT
#747
On August 22 2019 00:35 Eywa- wrote:
So, kill me today, then vote Rayn tomorrow, HF day 4... HF seems to have an unsually high amount of his posts claiming what his reads are and who he's going to vote, also a decent number of non-game related posts... Page 2 of his filter is especially bad in this regard and very unlike his town game.

About 25% of posts claiming his reads is pretty high for HF who is usually more inquisitive.


Obviously, this is shit because we jump right into MyLo, but whatever.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2019 15:45 GMT
#748
And why is stating my reads a mafia thing?
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 21 2019 15:46 GMT
#749
On August 22 2019 00:45 Holyflare wrote:
And why is stating my reads a mafia thing?

It's not an objective measure for all players.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2019 15:50 GMT
#750
It just gives people a chance to know where my head is at when I have a limited amount of time to play and then I can respond to any questions about my reads if they arise. Not particularly my fault everyone just writes me off as town other than you.

I'm still not particularly sure what you even actually scum read me for. First it was poeing which wasn't even true and now it's?
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 21 2019 15:56 GMT
#751
On August 22 2019 00:50 Holyflare wrote:
It just gives people a chance to know where my head is at when I have a limited amount of time to play and then I can respond to any questions about my reads if they arise. Not particularly my fault everyone just writes me off as town other than you.

I'm still not particularly sure what you even actually scum read me for. First it was poeing which wasn't even true and now it's?

Mainly POE, I think there are a decent amount of players town telling. You and Jock just happen to be voting really poorly if you're town, so that plays into it as well. I think FF is very susceptible to sheeping as town, which is a serious weakness in his town game, but I can see how that would provide him cover if he is in fact scum here.

Outside of that, I don't think anyone is scum.

So... The poe is just

Rayn
HF
Jock
FF

I think FF has made some relatively towny posts and the poor play could be just his sheeping town style even when it leads to his loss or is directly contrary to his objectives and reads (i.e. last game).

Rayn being afk is probably his biggest scum tell, also the fact that he's intentionally not engaging in anything that might cause drama, he's intentionally not stepping on anyone's toes.

Lack of interaction between HF/Rayn seems to indicate that at least one of the two is scum. Specifically, lack of meaningful interactions and conflict.

HF is just poe, either bad instincts or scum. I don't know how an experienced player is on this wagon and thinks... Hmmm, this wagon looks Kosher, it's just Squishy and Eywa-

Jock well, I think some of his posts are actually pretty scummy, but I can't get over the total lack of self-awareness from HF... Though, that could be telling that Jock hasn't really demonstrated much of anything in response to me in comparison.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 21 2019 16:07 GMT
#752
Hm.

Hmmmmm...
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
August 21 2019 16:35 GMT
#753
Eywa I could easily have responded to you like I responded to FF the whole time yesterday but in previous games all anyone has got out of you is "I don't talk to scum" or "yeah your scum" so I didn't see the point.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2019 16:38 GMT
#754
Don't believe his bs. He did the exact same thing last game where he only starts to do things when people call him mafia.

Just read his content. Now I'm only mafia from poe and voting poorly but that was never the case before. Pretty sure I've been his scum read since n1. His manipulation of playing the "I don't care" thing is also how he said he'd play it in the mafia QT last game and pretty much his play is identical.

Look at how he's trying to appease me saying now my vote is just poor and it's poe instead of treating me as the mafia aggressor pushing his needed mislynch. It's all a game.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 21 2019 16:49 GMT
#755
Oh yeah I'm convinced here just trying to see who's busing
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 21 2019 16:49 GMT
#756
Like assuming eywa flips mafia I'd still probably be fine lynching squish but I'm not sure it's that simple
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2019 17:09 GMT
#757
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if rayn bussed eywa tbh. That's why eywa ignores any evidence based case rayn makes and just says it should be obvious rayn is mafia when nobody is particularly looking that way at rayn. Poor play if it is.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 17:16 GMT
#758
Rayn is town, why are you doubting him now? Because he “handed in” Ewya?

Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 21 2019 17:31 GMT
#759
On August 22 2019 02:09 Holyflare wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if rayn bussed eywa tbh. That's why eywa ignores any evidence based case rayn makes and just says it should be obvious rayn is mafia when nobody is particularly looking that way at rayn. Poor play if it is.

So you're onboard with Rayn mafia?
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 21 2019 17:32 GMT
#760
On August 22 2019 01:38 Holyflare wrote:
Don't believe his bs. He did the exact same thing last game where he only starts to do things when people call him mafia.

Just read his content. Now I'm only mafia from poe and voting poorly but that was never the case before. Pretty sure I've been his scum read since n1. His manipulation of playing the "I don't care" thing is also how he said he'd play it in the mafia QT last game and pretty much his play is identical.

Look at how he's trying to appease me saying now my vote is just poor and it's poe instead of treating me as the mafia aggressor pushing his needed mislynch. It's all a game.

If I scum read you from day 1, then how am I scum?
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