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On August 18 2019 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am telling you vivax is town though regardless of my alignment. I always feel the need to clarify when I'm giving a read you know... Whether or not I am scum, please take this to the bank. Rayn is scum as well.
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@Holyflare are you going to continue with this joke of a wagon you're building on me or are you actually going to pull your head out of your ___ and make some decent reads?
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On August 21 2019 18:21 Holyflare wrote: Think squishy is mafia too. Too much tmi stuff.
I'm going back and honestly I think I might have been reading him from the wrong POV. I still don't like his start of day 2.
There seems to be many people he's comfortable saying they are probably not mafia and I was looking at it from the point of view of him trying to get reads out where he hadn't thought about it but maybe he's not doing that and he just has loads of people as null.
Like I try to confirm people as town, maybe squishy doesn't and that's what's making me think he's mafia. I'm worried about cognitive bias here because everything I'm reading of his jumps out at me as mafia but I dunno man.
Maybe I'll go back and see what's there from a TMI point of view instead. I'm still keeping him as a scumread for now, just for his overall lack of contributions (also I still dislike that list post + day 2 start) but I'm not entirely convinced by my own case on him tbh.
The thing with chezinu (#406) probably not being mafia at a point where he had only posted irrelevant nonsense is weird to me. Chezinu could objectively have been any alignment. The only way you could say probably not mafia is that only 2/10 people are mafia so its the same probably not as everyone else if you don't have any town reads.
SQUISHY:
I'd like to know if you have any solid town reads at this point. Your list post doesn't have any in it at all.
Also could you respond to the point about your chezinu read because that's really weird why you would say probably not mafia when he's chezinu. How could you know (or even have any clue at all) whether or not he's mafia at that point?
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I didn't mind the squishy read, but then I went back and read... He scum read vivax all of day 1 (who was a universal town read), I don't know why scum ever do this.
I'm going to go with... Unlikely that squishy is mafia based on day 1.
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On August 21 2019 21:11 Eywa- wrote: @Holyflare are you going to continue with this joke of a wagon you're building on me or are you actually going to pull your head out of your ___ and make some decent reads? I'm thinking more and more that this is just mafia and it's pointless for me to beat my head against this wall.
Honestly, it makes a lot of sense for the two more argumentative players of the game to try to focus the game on making and breaking cases... Especially if they're mafia. As town, you're more just concerned with people voting your way because you don't have to discredit other players.
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On August 21 2019 21:14 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 18:21 Holyflare wrote: Think squishy is mafia too. Too much tmi stuff. I'm going back and honestly I think I might have been reading him from the wrong POV. I still don't like his start of day 2. There seems to be many people he's comfortable saying they are probably not mafia and I was looking at it from the point of view of him trying to get reads out where he hadn't thought about it but maybe he's not doing that and he just has loads of people as null. Like I try to confirm people as town, maybe squishy doesn't and that's what's making me think he's mafia. I'm worried about cognitive bias here because everything I'm reading of his jumps out at me as mafia but I dunno man. Maybe I'll go back and see what's there from a TMI point of view instead. I'm still keeping him as a scumread for now, just for his overall lack of contributions (also I still dislike that list post + day 2 start) but I'm not entirely convinced by my own case on him tbh. The thing with chezinu (#406) probably not being mafia at a point where he had only posted irrelevant nonsense is weird to me. Chezinu could objectively have been any alignment. The only way you could say probably not mafia is that only 2/10 people are mafia so its the same probably not as everyone else if you don't have any town reads. SQUISHY:I'd like to know if you have any solid town reads at this point. Your list post doesn't have any in it at all. Also could you respond to the point about your chezinu read because that's really weird why you would say probably not mafia when he's chezinu. How could you know (or even have any clue at all) whether or not he's mafia at that point? I don't like your thought process, it seems like you're indirectly justifying your read in this one with the option to later withdraw on a town flip.
Is it as simple as 2 of HF, Rayn and Jock?
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^ the townie among you should be heavily considering this.
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On August 21 2019 21:22 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 21:14 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 21 2019 18:21 Holyflare wrote: Think squishy is mafia too. Too much tmi stuff. I'm going back and honestly I think I might have been reading him from the wrong POV. I still don't like his start of day 2. There seems to be many people he's comfortable saying they are probably not mafia and I was looking at it from the point of view of him trying to get reads out where he hadn't thought about it but maybe he's not doing that and he just has loads of people as null. Like I try to confirm people as town, maybe squishy doesn't and that's what's making me think he's mafia. I'm worried about cognitive bias here because everything I'm reading of his jumps out at me as mafia but I dunno man. Maybe I'll go back and see what's there from a TMI point of view instead. I'm still keeping him as a scumread for now, just for his overall lack of contributions (also I still dislike that list post + day 2 start) but I'm not entirely convinced by my own case on him tbh. The thing with chezinu (#406) probably not being mafia at a point where he had only posted irrelevant nonsense is weird to me. Chezinu could objectively have been any alignment. The only way you could say probably not mafia is that only 2/10 people are mafia so its the same probably not as everyone else if you don't have any town reads. SQUISHY:I'd like to know if you have any solid town reads at this point. Your list post doesn't have any in it at all. Also could you respond to the point about your chezinu read because that's really weird why you would say probably not mafia when he's chezinu. How could you know (or even have any clue at all) whether or not he's mafia at that point? I don't like your thought process, it seems like you're indirectly justifying your read in this one with the option to later withdraw on a town flip. Is it as simple as 2 of HF, Rayn and Jock? What would the point in doing that be if i was mafia? It barely makes sense. Its like you're trying to prove rayn's case on you true.
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On August 21 2019 21:28 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 21:22 Eywa- wrote:On August 21 2019 21:14 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 21 2019 18:21 Holyflare wrote: Think squishy is mafia too. Too much tmi stuff. I'm going back and honestly I think I might have been reading him from the wrong POV. I still don't like his start of day 2. There seems to be many people he's comfortable saying they are probably not mafia and I was looking at it from the point of view of him trying to get reads out where he hadn't thought about it but maybe he's not doing that and he just has loads of people as null. Like I try to confirm people as town, maybe squishy doesn't and that's what's making me think he's mafia. I'm worried about cognitive bias here because everything I'm reading of his jumps out at me as mafia but I dunno man. Maybe I'll go back and see what's there from a TMI point of view instead. I'm still keeping him as a scumread for now, just for his overall lack of contributions (also I still dislike that list post + day 2 start) but I'm not entirely convinced by my own case on him tbh. The thing with chezinu (#406) probably not being mafia at a point where he had only posted irrelevant nonsense is weird to me. Chezinu could objectively have been any alignment. The only way you could say probably not mafia is that only 2/10 people are mafia so its the same probably not as everyone else if you don't have any town reads. SQUISHY:I'd like to know if you have any solid town reads at this point. Your list post doesn't have any in it at all. Also could you respond to the point about your chezinu read because that's really weird why you would say probably not mafia when he's chezinu. How could you know (or even have any clue at all) whether or not he's mafia at that point? I don't like your thought process, it seems like you're indirectly justifying your read in this one with the option to later withdraw on a town flip. Is it as simple as 2 of HF, Rayn and Jock? What would the point in doing that be if i was mafia? It barely makes sense. Its like you're trying to prove rayn's case on you true. *Shrug*
I don't think you intentionally conveyed it, but that's what I see. Your blindness to the situation is really not alignment indicative, but bad if you're town. Pretty sure 2/3 is mafia.
I'm getting lynched, so you can all prepare your defense for when I flip. I imagine it'll be easy enough to sway the sheep.
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Oh hey, no one is listening to me when I'm town and we're going to lose because everyone is voting for stupid targets. All we're missing is the Pandain vigilante.
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Actually, it's Rayn +1... Most likely being either HF or Jock. I don't think the odds are even split.
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For the record, I also think it's bad if any of you allow me to convince you to switch your vote, because you should never listen to your top scum read.
So, read Rayn's filter and then make up your own mind and if you come to the wrong conclusion today (which I'm betting you will), vote Rayn tomorrow... But tbh, we probably still lose in that case.
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So, when I die today, lynch Rayn tomorrow and I'll re-filter my other suspects to give you your day 4 lynch as well.
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I'm listening but I just don't really think anyone else is as scummy as you.
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On August 21 2019 22:30 Holyflare wrote: I'm listening but I just don't really think anyone else is as scummy as you. The issue I have is that I feel like both you and Jock are much better scum players than town players, so it's kind of the expected result regardless of alignment.
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HF is good as town or he has been when I play.
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Thinking about it, it doesnt make sense a Rayn/HF team.
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On August 21 2019 23:27 CopCake wrote: Thinking about it, it doesnt make sense a Rayn/HF team.
*Shrug* it's definitely Rayn +1
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On August 21 2019 23:27 CopCake wrote: Thinking about it, it doesnt make sense a Rayn/HF team.
Thinking about it??? Did you even read the posts against eywa??
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On August 21 2019 23:48 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 23:27 CopCake wrote: Thinking about it, it doesnt make sense a Rayn/HF team.
Thinking about it??? Did you even read the posts against eywa?? You building a case doesn't have any effect on my alignment.
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