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First 10 posts from our QT
+ Show Spoiler +1 \Grack
This is the QT for the hyda
2\ Jock
Thanks grack hi bugs
3\ Jock probably gonna lurk at first
4\ Bugs FIrst thought we rolled scum but turns out we're green yay
l be here for moral support and guidance and to occasionally shit on logical fallacies from other players
If we end up agreeing independently on a scumread before giving each other our own reasons we can play good cop bad cop
5\ Jock Agrees
6\ Long bugs post on rayn and why he's mafia
7\ Jock - gonna make a spreadhseet - rayn is silly
8\ Basically a copy of the early list post i did that everyone hated with a couple of extra bits that weren't for the thread.
9\ Bugs another set of reads:
FF - lean town. Maybe strongest read I have
Eywa - lean town
Tube - lean town
Coag - lean town
10\ Bugs those mafia reads on us are hilarious
-J
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+ Show Spoiler +11\ I agree with buigs' reads apologize for crap posting early on
12\ Jock its going to need pointing out that rayn was always going to vote for us since before we even posted anything too
13\ BUgs use a different browser or incognito for the smurf
14\ Jock Used Edge but hate it
15\ Bugs tells me i should slow down my posting
16\ Bugs wants to let pandain catch up and post (this is07-24-2019 04:46 AM ET (US))
17\ Bugs corercting spelling
18\ Me shitting on my own play a bit more. Vote would be better on MZ than rayn
19\ Bugs tells me i control the vote so whatever
20\ I go cold on MZ. Say its because he realized his reads were out of whack with each other. DIdn't like the way he defended my early post though
21\ Bugs isn't sure that him defending us is alignment indicative at all.
22\ I say Koshi convinced me to kill rayn
23\ Long post by bugs with a list: Tells me not to rationalize my vote
24-26 is mroe discussion of post vote posting and some coaching from bugs.
You really want me to carry on hf I'm at work and this is time consuming
-J
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More QT summary
+ Show Spoiler +27 Bugs wants to pressure slam and FF because they were voting with rayn - thinks one is mafia one is mason
28 I tell him to go get slam I'll have a look through FF's filter
29 Bugs - eywa and hf are ok for now. Knowing rayn's partner will clear stuff up probably
30 Me - Would make sense for TS to be rayn's partner. DIdn't attack us for voting rayn but attacked us in another weird way instead (the slam thing)
31 Bugs agrees -
32 - Bugs thinks vivax is town
33 Vivax dies and bugs lols
34 Bugs likes coag and slam - maybe FF
35 Bugs - Chezinu is bad too
36 I agree with that list. I'm not posting in thread cos I'm hammered.
37 Bugs PoE based on slam saying he's not mason
Current scumreads
FF
Coag
slam
Chezinu
38 Bugs liked hf post about slam
39 - Bugs thinks FF scumclaimed
40 - Jock really wishes TS would claim mason
41 - Jock voting FF hoping people agree and pick it up
42 - Bugs facepalming at a Tubesock post.
-J
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more QT summary
+ Show Spoiler +/43 Jock - No-one biting on FF. I'll leave vote there for a few hours.
/44 Bugs - Thinks koshi is scum. FF slam and chezinu also in the pile
/45 Jock - Chez unreadable - Koshi is weird - will leave vote on FF unless people look like they want to vote koshi
/46 Jock - Slam being aggro all of a sudden - weird
/47 Bugs - Vote wherever would prefer slam
48-52 Is just random conversation
53/ Bugs - between FF, Slam, and Chezinu
54/ Bugs wants a go at FF
55/ I wanna prod the newbie and see what he says
/56 lets swap targets
57/ Bugs - Why don't we kill koshi. 3 reasons - TMI, calling town stupid, calling rayn anti--town instead of scum.
58/ Jock if you think we can kill koshi we should
-J
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More
+ Show Spoiler +/59 Bugs thread is dead
/60 Bugs Why is koshi invested in defending slam?
61/ Bugs - Slam self voting is weird and ballsy but difficult to tell alignment from
62/ Jock - Feel like slam is breadcruming
63/ Bugs - If slam is breadcrumbing mason he deserves to die
64/ Jock - I DON'T KNOW BUGS HE'S JUST WEIRD
65/ Jock - strategy on killing koshi
66/ Bugs- more of the same
67/ Jock - All these people are morons (there gets to be more of this kinda thing)
68/ Bugs - LMAO
69/70/ Jock - Really like hf's point about eversince and the rayn thing but he is straight up defending koshi
71-72 Bugs doesn't really get what hf is saying
73 Jock explains hf's eversince point
74 Jock Do we just lynch chez I dunno
-J
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You guys better townread us after this.
This is the rest of it.
+ Show Spoiler +75 Bugs would rather not lynch Chez - trusts me to do whatever
76 Jock says switching to chez
77 Bugs is pissed off by hf
78 Jock makes point about mafia busing chez invalidating some PoE
79 Bugs thinks day 3 will suck
80 Jock says sorry for lynching chez
81 Bugs says Koshi, FF, Slam are the lynches
82 Bugs notices we tend to swap our reads as EoD nears
83 Jock posts a reads list - Thinks branch might be mafia cos of that EoD
84 Bugs talks about Slam and Tube.
85 - Bugs says 'one less suspect'
86 - Jock combines jock/bugs' read lists into one to come up with ideas for day 3
87 - Bugs rages with fury and fire at hf, koshi and ff
88 - Jock notices that the only people to try and defend us from day 2 lynch were everyone that koshi says is mafia
89 - Bugs not confident that we can win - is leaving for a while to catch a plane.
90 - Jock says fuck everyone
-J
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On July 30 2019 00:04 Branch.AUT wrote:
Why does Holyflare think all of this qt paraphrasing makes hydra town? All it is is sentiment towards players and expressing frustrations.
If I was mafia and making it up someone would notice that.
-J
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On July 29 2019 18:19 NoSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2019 17:22 Holyflare wrote:
. Do you think Koshi is being scum read because he got some reads right or something? People are scum reading him for unexplained reads, lack of follow up and inability to answer questions about those reads.
I'm saying because this seems much more convincing to me than: Show nested quote +On July 28 2019 00:14 Holyflare wrote:
I don't really care bugs, you can push Koshi all you want for content but that's not particularly how you read Koshi. It's more of a tone thing and what he seems to care about, which is people being stupid and doing stupid things in his world view of alignments.
I can't be the only one. -J
Holyflare are you still townreading koshi for the same reason?
If so do you have a better way of convincing me because i believe you more when you talk about koshi being scummy than when you talk about him being town.
-J
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On July 30 2019 02:25 Alakaslam wrote:
So new townreads are Hydra May as well be blue, HF, maybe the smurf.
I am thinking Eywa too.
Null is Eversince, Koshi, FF, Meapak,
Can’t remember anyone else and I am willing to reread and give thoughts, but I suspect people would see that as shitting up the thread rather than useful.
Give thoughts! The thread is dead anyway.
Read pandain he's a bit of a mystery at the moment. Eversince is whaaaaaaaaat she normally all over the thread. If I'd subbed in as town I'd be extra keen too.
-J
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On July 30 2019 03:15 Eywa- wrote:You guys post too much... Holy fuck. FecalFeast has to be the lynch today, I mean... His filter is terrible, just keeps pushing random reads off of the main wagons, but doesn't actually push them hard enough to push them through. Then he calls other people scum for pushing mislynches. Show nested quote +On July 26 2019 12:49 Fecalfeast wrote:
i still think mason should claim because if mafia shoots mason that's a probable guaranteed cop check unless they hit the RB and or the miller Also, this feels a lot like PR hunting. WHERE DID THAT GUARANTEED COP CHECK GO? Oh... Y'all lynched it.
FF is a good lynch.
Why not koshi?
-J
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On July 30 2019 03:51 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 03:45 Alakaslam wrote:On July 30 2019 03:35 Eywa- wrote:On July 30 2019 03:27 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 30 2019 03:15 Eywa- wrote:You guys post too much... Holy fuck. FecalFeast has to be the lynch today, I mean... His filter is terrible, just keeps pushing random reads off of the main wagons, but doesn't actually push them hard enough to push them through. Then he calls other people scum for pushing mislynches. On July 26 2019 12:49 Fecalfeast wrote:
i still think mason should claim because if mafia shoots mason that's a probable guaranteed cop check unless they hit the RB and or the miller Also, this feels a lot like PR hunting. WHERE DID THAT GUARANTEED COP CHECK GO? Oh... Y'all lynched it. FF is a good lynch. Why not koshi? -J Isn't Koshi sheeping Alakaslam? I'm not too worried about him, I'm not sure that openly sheeping your "top town read" all game is a scum strategy. If he's still sheeping Alakaslam, I would continue to use his vote for now regardless of alignment as a second vote on a near universal town read. I don’t trust him to actually DO that though. I'll filter him, nothing jumped at me the first read through, but I mean, I skimmed a lot.
Try and see if you can see him trying to push a lynch.
The last game I played with town koshi he was aggressively trying to get people to vote with him, at least for some of the game.
-J
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Branch who's your top scum read right now?
-J
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On July 30 2019 05:13 Holyflare wrote:
5) Fecalfeast
6) Eywa
7) Pandain
8) Coagulation Replaced by Branch.AUT Day 2.
11) Koshi
I'm narrowing you guys down.
YES holyflare this is a good list.
My money's on 5,8,11
We only have one mislynch, right?
I need to try and work this game out before the end of the night anyway.
-J
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On July 30 2019 05:14 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 05:06 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Branch who's your top scum read right now?
-J I am going through low activity people at the moment. Don't have a good scumread but these are my thoughts. Im cautious about HF because of the weight he carries in thread. Fecalfeasts opinions seem to line up with mine a lot, but his filter is filled with garbage posts. Who are yours?
Right now koshi
Then FF
and one more from you/slam (I think bugs thought slam was mafia before today)/pandain/eywa
I'm starting to come around to hf a little more. I was very suspicious earlier. His latest post encourages me though.
-J
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On July 30 2019 05:31 Holyflare wrote:You already are?
He must have the memory of a goldfish
-J
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On July 30 2019 06:14 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 05:18 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 30 2019 05:14 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 05:06 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Branch who's your top scum read right now?
-J I am going through low activity people at the moment. Don't have a good scumread but these are my thoughts. Im cautious about HF because of the weight he carries in thread. Fecalfeasts opinions seem to line up with mine a lot, but his filter is filled with garbage posts. Who are yours? Right now koshi Then FF and one more from you/slam (I think bugs thought slam was mafia before today)/pandain/eywa I'm starting to come around to hf a little more. I was very suspicious earlier. His latest post encourages me though. -J Whats your reason to scumread pandain?
I don't have one particularly. I don't like the way he immediately suggested the tubesock night kill could mean we were mafia, that seems opportunistic, but he has made some good posts also. I'm not ruling him out.
We have two main scumreads and a bunch of maybes and some townreads
-J
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From Midnight Sun Mafia
On May 27 2019 18:58 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2019 18:09 disformation wrote:
oh ic. carry on then.
@koshi:
whats the case on calix again?
still 90% based on her entry post? Disfo. She needs to die. Come the fuck on. I will call you on Whatsapp after the goddamn game and explain it to you. I CBA to explain it now. For fucking sake. This is calix. No waves Shit conviction Shit reads Shit everything Kill her fast
This is town koshi.
Where has this koshi been?
-J
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On July 30 2019 09:38 Eywa- wrote:
Soo... Anyone seeing this FF and MZ scum theater unfolding?
No idea wtf you’ve been reading but MZ is one of the few people trying to figure out the game.
Anyway I’ve lost most of my motivation to post & I am busy with work. I mostly agree with what MZ has said. I think the hard choice will be for scum #3 but I have been fairly confident on both Koshi and FF for a while now.
FF’s own assessment of his play is hilarious. Half of his posts are just shade on others. His other half are composed of a lot of posts that just seek to figure out thread sentiment, are random filler, or defense posts. Basically no scumhunting whatsoever and his opinions make no sense when put up to any level of scrutiny.
As for Koshi, he essentially had no opinions this game. He attacked rayn probably because he knew he had to, and it just happened to work well in his favour day 1 that rayn died. After rayn died Koshi has basically done nothing.
I believe that mafia are sheeping/manipulating certain townies. Tube for sure was in mafia FF’s pocket, and I am reasonably sure that if slam is town he was being manipulated by Koshi due to how hard Koshi buddied him. I read slam more townish today but slam is a coin flip to me still.
Of the rest of the players, HF has made enough sense today that I wouldn’t kill him. Eversince is often absent but has made sense. Ditto on Pandain.
Comes down to Eywa and Branch which is a hard decision but I think it will resolve itself if we kill both Koshi and FF first because if we’re not all completely crazy and there isn’t a godlike scum among us then there is a huge amount of time to evaluate both players. If I were forced to pick right now I’d 100% kill branch, though.
Anyway, I’m tired and will go to my hotel soon now that work for the day is wrapping up. If Koshi isn’t scum then gg because then we got rocked by scum really hard.
-wherebugsgo
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tl;dr:
Koshi
FF
slam/eywa/branch figure yourselves out but right now I’d kill branch
-wherebugsgo
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On July 30 2019 10:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
How about this if everyone who wants me dead today can tell me their plan of action when I flip town I'll self vote and park it there til deadline, cool?
Considering that you don’t know it’s mylo, even if you’re town it’s optimal to just kill you and end the game because you were playing for scum the whole time anyway.
The only two options for town today are no-lynch or kill scum. If you don’t know that, or can’t even put the modicum of effort required to figure it out yourself, you’re scum or indistinguishable from scum.
-wherebugsgo
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