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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 30 2019 18:32 GMT
#1661
Why are you saying I want the lynch between FF and Koshi? I think Koshi is a bad lynch in general... I just want the lynch on FF.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
July 30 2019 18:33 GMT
#1662
On July 31 2019 03:30 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2019 03:26 Branch.AUT wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:24 NoSmurfHere wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:21 Branch.AUT wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:18 NoSmurfHere wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:13 Branch.AUT wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:10 Eversince wrote:
@ Branch

Did you miss the multiple times I've listed why I m!Koshi? Miss the whole end of D2 where Pandain/myself pushed for a switch to Koshi over Chezinu? Or are you just trying to cast shadows on me?

I am asking you to reconsider your vote and go for Eywa, who has posted nothing but offhand accusations and useless comments.

If the lynch is between FF and Koshi, theres nothing to be learned. Both have posted too much, and posted too much nonsense.

Eywa postet nothing of substance. There is a huge contrast between either Koshi/FF and Eywa. Making the choice more meaningful for everyone.


Actually we learn a ton if the lynch is between Koshi and FF. They have tons of interactions with other players and FF in particular (IIRC) is a defender of Koshi.

Making people pick between those two is way better than having them pick between either of them and Eywa, especially when the only people who seem to agree on Eywa are the ones voting him

Presumably they either think the other is town or scum bussing here, and given that almost no one outside you 3 thinks Eywa is scum, it’s much better to have people split between the two players that are actually being called scum.

-wherebugsgo


Making FF a lynch target basically lets Mafia pick whoever they want. Its rather unlikely that we have 3 scum up for lynch. Therefore I wouldn't push FF In this situation. Especially considering that their volume of post and current standing in the thread are quite similar. Do you know what I mean?


I’m telling you that we 100% will not lynch Eywa today, not with TWO SCUM CANDIDATES VOTING HIM.

If you vote anyone other than FF or Koshi today I will assume you are scum. Between me and Jock you have more hope of convincing me that you are town and right now you’re not doing a very good job at that.

-wherebugsgo

I don't need to convince YOU of anything because YOU don't vote


Touché

btw care to explain how scum can “choose who they want” between Koshi and FF without outing themselves in the process? We have like an hour or two left (?? I don’t know what the deadline is in this time zone, haven’t checked) and the only person who hasn’t voted is Eversince.

She is not going to vote Eywa, AFAICT. That puts Koshi @ 4 with tiebreaker advantage and for scum to kill someone else they would all need to vote someone else (technically it would look like two players switching) because there is only a net +2 possible ATM, and that’s necessary to pick someone over Koshi.

I also don’t understand why the same argument you are using about scum picking the lynch doesn’t apply to Eywa va Koshi or any two players. FF and Koshi do not look the same no matter how much you keep saying that, anyway.

-wherebugsgo


1.5hr ish
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 30 2019 18:33 GMT
#1663
On July 31 2019 03:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can the people on me at least mention what they'll do when i flip town. Please?
Someone determined that it's not mylo right

Yeah, it's not mylo
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
July 30 2019 18:35 GMT
#1664
Koshi the whole world is against us what do we do
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 30 2019 18:38 GMT
#1665
On July 31 2019 03:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can the people on me at least mention what they'll do when i flip town. Please?
Someone determined that it's not mylo right


Why do you keep asking this instead of doing something actually useful?

You’ve been asking for thread sentiment the whole game (like how you asked how people are reading branch) instead of actually forming your own read or opinions and it’s scummy af

It’s also always somehow really meek when at least some of your pushback when the game was less clear, especially when pushing back against people who were clearly going to die (like rayn) had a much different tone

-wherebugsgo
The following statement is true. The previous statement is false.
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
July 30 2019 18:38 GMT
#1666
On July 31 2019 03:32 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2019 03:13 Branch.AUT wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:10 Eversince wrote:
@ Branch

Did you miss the multiple times I've listed why I m!Koshi? Miss the whole end of D2 where Pandain/myself pushed for a switch to Koshi over Chezinu? Or are you just trying to cast shadows on me?

I am asking you to reconsider your vote and go for Eywa, who has posted nothing but offhand accusations and useless comments.

If the lynch is between FF and Koshi, theres nothing to be learned. Both have posted too much, and posted too much nonsense.

Eywa postet nothing of substance. There is a huge contrast between either Koshi/FF and Eywa. Making the choice more meaningful for everyone.


Again, if you cannot be bothered to compare the remarkably similar filters of Eywa this game to last game (where he was town) why would we believe he's mafia for doing the same thing this game?

That seems like an uncredibly naive way to think about it.
The first time Eywa rolls scum and keeps playing the same, everybody gives them a free pass. Might be even now. Which is why I'm voting Eywa.

That sounds like a terrible risk to ignore.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
July 30 2019 18:39 GMT
#1667
On July 31 2019 03:38 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2019 03:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can the people on me at least mention what they'll do when i flip town. Please?
Someone determined that it's not mylo right


Why do you keep asking this instead of doing something actually useful?

You’ve been asking for thread sentiment the whole game (like how you asked how people are reading branch) instead of actually forming your own read or opinions and it’s scummy af

It’s also always somehow really meek when at least some of your pushback when the game was less clear, especially when pushing back against people who were clearly going to die (like rayn) had a much different tone

-wherebugsgo

I'm at work and when I was at home I wasted time instead

Meekness is fair but since I've not been reading in depth it's hard to have many real conviction
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
July 30 2019 18:40 GMT
#1668
On July 31 2019 03:38 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2019 03:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can the people on me at least mention what they'll do when i flip town. Please?
Someone determined that it's not mylo right


Why do you keep asking this instead of doing something actually useful?

You’ve been asking for thread sentiment the whole game (like how you asked how people are reading branch) instead of actually forming your own read or opinions and it’s scummy af

It’s also always somehow really meek when at least some of your pushback when the game was less clear, especially when pushing back against people who were clearly going to die (like rayn) had a much different tone

-wherebugsgo

Holyflare has been doing the same exact thing with me. You never once called him scum. How come?
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
July 30 2019 18:42 GMT
#1669
@ FF

#1667 translates to "I don't care about this game enough to play when I can. Now that I'm dying for it, I can't even play!!"

And you wonder why you are mafia read by people? When you've been like this for a while now?
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
July 30 2019 18:44 GMT
#1670
Can someone link me to this alleged paraphrasing of 90 qt posts? I'm not sure how one could edit that many posts sufficiently enough to simultaneously be clearing but not against any rules
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 30 2019 18:44 GMT
#1671
On July 31 2019 03:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
Koshi the whole world is against us what do we do


You have been largely irrelevant and have wasted away your role to be lynched. How does that feel? That you'd rather defend Koshi whose alignment you know nothing about (allegedly) and can't even explain why he sheeped slam?

I presume you don't scum read the hydra anymore after the QT? That leaves you with eywa, pandain and eversince. Two of those three people would rather lynch you than Koshi. Does that spark any kind of alarm bell or are you more concerned with posturing your faux koshi love?

Why won't branch vote Koshi (remember he loves voting the highest town wagons right?) or you over a guy that people repeatedly say is playing the same as last game.

Why are you voting eywa when he was afk for a pre stated reason? Is that still the same reason you scum read eywa? Why can't you answer eywa's points? I think they were that you said he had a big day 1 but you were also voting eywa then or something too?
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
July 30 2019 18:45 GMT
#1672
@ FF

Starts on Pg 9 of NSH filter.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
July 30 2019 18:45 GMT
#1673
On July 31 2019 03:42 Eversince wrote:
@ FF

#1667 translates to "I don't care about this game enough to play when I can. Now that I'm dying for it, I can't even play!!"

And you wonder why you are mafia read by people? When you've been like this for a while now?

I have been playing when I'm into it though...

I have been posting reads, talking to ppl in thread, voting targets and consolidating on lynches not sure what else to do.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 30 2019 18:45 GMT
#1674
On July 31 2019 03:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can someone link me to this alleged paraphrasing of 90 qt posts? I'm not sure how one could edit that many posts sufficiently enough to simultaneously be clearing but not against any rules


Why would you be against this if you were town?

Its spread over a few posts here:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/549650-cupids-arrow-mafia?page=67#1329

-J
The following statement is true. The previous statement is false.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 30 2019 18:47 GMT
#1675
On July 31 2019 03:38 Branch.AUT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2019 03:32 Holyflare wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:13 Branch.AUT wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:10 Eversince wrote:
@ Branch

Did you miss the multiple times I've listed why I m!Koshi? Miss the whole end of D2 where Pandain/myself pushed for a switch to Koshi over Chezinu? Or are you just trying to cast shadows on me?

I am asking you to reconsider your vote and go for Eywa, who has posted nothing but offhand accusations and useless comments.

If the lynch is between FF and Koshi, theres nothing to be learned. Both have posted too much, and posted too much nonsense.

Eywa postet nothing of substance. There is a huge contrast between either Koshi/FF and Eywa. Making the choice more meaningful for everyone.


Again, if you cannot be bothered to compare the remarkably similar filters of Eywa this game to last game (where he was town) why would we believe he's mafia for doing the same thing this game?

That seems like an uncredibly naive way to think about it.
The first time Eywa rolls scum and keeps playing the same, everybody gives them a free pass. Might be even now. Which is why I'm voting Eywa.

That sounds like a terrible risk to ignore.


No, it doesn't. Nobody plays the same in their first scum game. That doesn't answer my point either, why can't you simply go check? If your whole reason is that he plays badly then that's not a very concrete reason and nobody will follow you on it since you can't be bothered to prove why it's a mafia strategy. To me, he has a read on FF that FF hasn't countered amd nobody has really talked about while you dance around and attack his play style and koshi says some babbling nonsense and afks again.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
July 30 2019 18:49 GMT
#1676
On July 31 2019 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2019 03:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
Koshi the whole world is against us what do we do


You have been largely irrelevant and have wasted away your role to be lynched. How does that feel? That you'd rather defend Koshi whose alignment you know nothing about (allegedly) and can't even explain why he sheeped slam?

I presume you don't scum read the hydra anymore after the QT? That leaves you with eywa, pandain and eversince. Two of those three people would rather lynch you than Koshi. Does that spark any kind of alarm bell or are you more concerned with posturing your faux koshi love?

Why won't branch vote Koshi (remember he loves voting the highest town wagons right?) or you over a guy that people repeatedly say is playing the same as last game.

Why are you voting eywa when he was afk for a pre stated reason? Is that still the same reason you scum read eywa? Why can't you answer eywa's points? I think they were that you said he had a big day 1 but you were also voting eywa then or something too?

I'd kill branch for sure like I said. I'm moving my vote off eywa because apparently arrogantly being wrong all game is a town tell according to you all.

I hate how everyone is so against koshi which makes me want to dig in on my townread of him.

I'm like 60/40 on whether I'll vote koshi to self pres btw. 60 on not self preserving.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
July 30 2019 18:51 GMT
#1677
On July 31 2019 03:45 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2019 03:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can someone link me to this alleged paraphrasing of 90 qt posts? I'm not sure how one could edit that many posts sufficiently enough to simultaneously be clearing but not against any rules


Why would you be against this if you were town?

Its spread over a few posts here:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/549650-cupids-arrow-mafia?page=67#1329

-J

Because it doesn't seem to be in the spirit of the game to use something private from outside the game to angle shoot your way to a townclear.

It's dirty play imho
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
July 30 2019 18:51 GMT
#1678
On July 31 2019 03:47 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2019 03:38 Branch.AUT wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:32 Holyflare wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:13 Branch.AUT wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:10 Eversince wrote:
@ Branch

Did you miss the multiple times I've listed why I m!Koshi? Miss the whole end of D2 where Pandain/myself pushed for a switch to Koshi over Chezinu? Or are you just trying to cast shadows on me?

I am asking you to reconsider your vote and go for Eywa, who has posted nothing but offhand accusations and useless comments.

If the lynch is between FF and Koshi, theres nothing to be learned. Both have posted too much, and posted too much nonsense.

Eywa postet nothing of substance. There is a huge contrast between either Koshi/FF and Eywa. Making the choice more meaningful for everyone.


Again, if you cannot be bothered to compare the remarkably similar filters of Eywa this game to last game (where he was town) why would we believe he's mafia for doing the same thing this game?

That seems like an uncredibly naive way to think about it.
The first time Eywa rolls scum and keeps playing the same, everybody gives them a free pass. Might be even now. Which is why I'm voting Eywa.

That sounds like a terrible risk to ignore.


No, it doesn't. Nobody plays the same in their first scum game. That doesn't answer my point either, why can't you simply go check? If your whole reason is that he plays badly then that's not a very concrete reason and nobody will follow you on it since you can't be bothered to prove why it's a mafia strategy. To me, he has a read on FF that FF hasn't countered amd nobody has really talked about while you dance around and attack his play style and koshi says some babbling nonsense and afks again.

If this is actually a playstyle, as you claim, it is incredibly easy to fake. Eywa also claims to be from a very successful scum hunting site, which makes it even more likely that this person is good at hiding alignment behind the useless lurking playstyle. Meta defense and last game don't matter when the playstyle is this easiliy fabricated.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
July 30 2019 18:55 GMT
#1679
@ FF how is paraphrasing your conversations on how you/ partner develop your reads dirty? It's the same as me posting my reasoning for how I develop reads but with hydra you have two and of course town wants the logic on how you as a pair come to decisions.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
July 30 2019 18:57 GMT
#1680
On July 31 2019 03:55 Eversince wrote:
@ FF how is paraphrasing your conversations on how you/ partner develop your reads dirty? It's the same as me posting my reasoning for how I develop reads but with hydra you have two and of course town wants the logic on how you as a pair come to decisions.

I'm not butthurt enough about it to argue with you. I think using anything from outside the game is dirty.
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