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On July 29 2019 23:01 NoSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2019 22:59 Holyflare wrote:
Not a single person in this game has accused me of being properly mafia when there is a tubesock AND a vivax night kill. Why is that? It's because the other people who are likely to be these night kills (koshi, bugs) etc don't want to bring attention to that fact and point themselves out. If we wanted to hide as mafia do you really think we'd NK someone who has ONLY scumread us the entire game? Don't be a moron. It was a stupid mafia plan with no foresight and you can't admit it.-J
You got me, that really sounds similar to my mafia play  !
I don't even understand what this mafia plan you're talking about is? That I kill tubesock and blame you as my plan? Is that it?
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On July 29 2019 23:01 NoSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2019 23:01 Holyflare wrote:
Jock where are you and bugs communicating? We have our own QT -J
Please paraphrase every post in it from start to finish and the days they were posted.
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On July 29 2019 23:03 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2019 23:01 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 29 2019 22:59 Holyflare wrote:
Not a single person in this game has accused me of being properly mafia when there is a tubesock AND a vivax night kill. Why is that? It's because the other people who are likely to be these night kills (koshi, bugs) etc don't want to bring attention to that fact and point themselves out. If we wanted to hide as mafia do you really think we'd NK someone who has ONLY scumread us the entire game? Don't be a moron. It was a stupid mafia plan with no foresight and you can't admit it.-J You got me, that really sounds similar to my mafia play ! I don't even understand what this mafia plan you're talking about is? That I kill tubesock and blame you as my plan? Is that it?
Yeah basically.
It should be absolutely clear that you can't infer anything useful from that night kill. Especially not to call a single player mafia off the back of it.
Either you are a terrible player and you don't know that or you can't admit to yourself that it was a stupid plan in the first place.
I know which I would say is more likely.
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On July 29 2019 23:03 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2019 23:01 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 29 2019 23:01 Holyflare wrote:
Jock where are you and bugs communicating? We have our own QT -J Please paraphrase every post in it from start to finish and the days they were posted.
There are currently 90 posts you really want me to do that its gonna take me ages
-J
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On July 29 2019 23:04 NoSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2019 23:03 Holyflare wrote:On July 29 2019 23:01 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 29 2019 22:59 Holyflare wrote:
Not a single person in this game has accused me of being properly mafia when there is a tubesock AND a vivax night kill. Why is that? It's because the other people who are likely to be these night kills (koshi, bugs) etc don't want to bring attention to that fact and point themselves out. If we wanted to hide as mafia do you really think we'd NK someone who has ONLY scumread us the entire game? Don't be a moron. It was a stupid mafia plan with no foresight and you can't admit it.-J You got me, that really sounds similar to my mafia play ! I don't even understand what this mafia plan you're talking about is? That I kill tubesock and blame you as my plan? Is that it? Yeah basically. It should be absolutely clear that you can't infer anything useful from that night kill. Especially not to call a single player mafia off the back of it. Either you are a terrible player and you don't know that or you can't admit to yourself that it was a stupid plan in the first place. I know which I would say is more likely.
No, it's not absolutely clear but I never even said you were mafia because of tubesock night kill did I? Reread my accusations again and maybe come up with something substantial that's good.
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On July 29 2019 23:05 NoSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2019 23:03 Holyflare wrote:On July 29 2019 23:01 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 29 2019 23:01 Holyflare wrote:
Jock where are you and bugs communicating? We have our own QT -J Please paraphrase every post in it from start to finish and the days they were posted. There are currently 90 posts you really want me to do that its gonna take me ages -J
Absolutely. Every single one.
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It really shouldn't take long to summarise 90 posts. Maybe 10 minutes. Unless you have to fabricate them.
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On July 29 2019 22:45 Branch.AUT wrote:
FFs list does not even mention me. Simply MUST be scum
(The above is a joke)
I see HF pushing Hydra (my scumread) as one of two things:
HF town agreeing with my read, and pushing the hydra.
HF scum pushing out an inactive veteran, which is just what he would do.
Eywa- how do you read HF this game?
FecalFeast what is your opinion on HF?
You know that the hydra has the most posts in the game right now or at least close right?
I don't agree with your read, I don't think that one very specific post you pointed out makes them mafia but I suppose independently coming to the same read means we share the read, yes.
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First 10 posts from our QT
+ Show Spoiler +1 \Grack
This is the QT for the hyda
2\ Jock
Thanks grack hi bugs
3\ Jock probably gonna lurk at first
4\ Bugs FIrst thought we rolled scum but turns out we're green yay
l be here for moral support and guidance and to occasionally shit on logical fallacies from other players
If we end up agreeing independently on a scumread before giving each other our own reasons we can play good cop bad cop
5\ Jock Agrees
6\ Long bugs post on rayn and why he's mafia
7\ Jock - gonna make a spreadhseet - rayn is silly
8\ Basically a copy of the early list post i did that everyone hated with a couple of extra bits that weren't for the thread.
9\ Bugs another set of reads:
FF - lean town. Maybe strongest read I have
Eywa - lean town
Tube - lean town
Coag - lean town
10\ Bugs those mafia reads on us are hilarious
-J
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Still expect the rest but I'll probably vote someone else I guess.
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+ Show Spoiler +11\ I agree with buigs' reads apologize for crap posting early on
12\ Jock its going to need pointing out that rayn was always going to vote for us since before we even posted anything too
13\ BUgs use a different browser or incognito for the smurf
14\ Jock Used Edge but hate it
15\ Bugs tells me i should slow down my posting
16\ Bugs wants to let pandain catch up and post (this is07-24-2019 04:46 AM ET (US))
17\ Bugs corercting spelling
18\ Me shitting on my own play a bit more. Vote would be better on MZ than rayn
19\ Bugs tells me i control the vote so whatever
20\ I go cold on MZ. Say its because he realized his reads were out of whack with each other. DIdn't like the way he defended my early post though
21\ Bugs isn't sure that him defending us is alignment indicative at all.
22\ I say Koshi convinced me to kill rayn
23\ Long post by bugs with a list: Tells me not to rationalize my vote
24-26 is mroe discussion of post vote posting and some coaching from bugs.
You really want me to carry on hf I'm at work and this is time consuming
-J
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On July 29 2019 23:08 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2019 22:45 Branch.AUT wrote:
FFs list does not even mention me. Simply MUST be scum
(The above is a joke)
I see HF pushing Hydra (my scumread) as one of two things:
HF town agreeing with my read, and pushing the hydra.
HF scum pushing out an inactive veteran, which is just what he would do.
Eywa- how do you read HF this game?
FecalFeast what is your opinion on HF? You know that the hydra has the most posts in the game right now or at least close right? I don't agree with your read, I don't think that one very specific post you pointed out makes them mafia but I suppose independently coming to the same read means we share the read, yes.
It'd be more surprising if they didn't, having four hands and two active time zones makes it easy.
Why is # of posts important though? Spamming out posts is really easy, just look at slam or koshi...
Their reaction to me pointing to this post is far more telling. Especially the part where they ignore my argument and pull unrelated information for their defense is extremely scum to me
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On July 29 2019 23:21 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2019 23:08 Holyflare wrote:On July 29 2019 22:45 Branch.AUT wrote:
FFs list does not even mention me. Simply MUST be scum
(The above is a joke)
I see HF pushing Hydra (my scumread) as one of two things:
HF town agreeing with my read, and pushing the hydra.
HF scum pushing out an inactive veteran, which is just what he would do.
Eywa- how do you read HF this game?
FecalFeast what is your opinion on HF? You know that the hydra has the most posts in the game right now or at least close right? I don't agree with your read, I don't think that one very specific post you pointed out makes them mafia but I suppose independently coming to the same read means we share the read, yes. It'd be more surprising if they didn't, having four hands and two active time zones makes it easy. Why is # of posts important though? Spamming out posts is really easy, just look at slam or koshi... Their reaction to me pointing to this post is far more telling. Especially the part where they ignore my argument and pull unrelated information for their defense is extremely scum to me
Number of posts is important because in the post I quoted you say one situation is that I'm pushing an inactive veteran which they most certainly are not?
I don't really believe they're mafia after Jock is posting this qt summary.
I do expect him to finish though.
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Honestly I think I could vote ff for the list post with eywa.
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It's SO lazy that it's pointless but why even bother trying to make it in the first place if you don't care enough to read half the people other than to justify voting somewhere?
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More QT summary
+ Show Spoiler +27 Bugs wants to pressure slam and FF because they were voting with rayn - thinks one is mafia one is mason
28 I tell him to go get slam I'll have a look through FF's filter
29 Bugs - eywa and hf are ok for now. Knowing rayn's partner will clear stuff up probably
30 Me - Would make sense for TS to be rayn's partner. DIdn't attack us for voting rayn but attacked us in another weird way instead (the slam thing)
31 Bugs agrees -
32 - Bugs thinks vivax is town
33 Vivax dies and bugs lols
34 Bugs likes coag and slam - maybe FF
35 Bugs - Chezinu is bad too
36 I agree with that list. I'm not posting in thread cos I'm hammered.
37 Bugs PoE based on slam saying he's not mason
Current scumreads
FF
Coag
slam
Chezinu
38 Bugs liked hf post about slam
39 - Bugs thinks FF scumclaimed
40 - Jock really wishes TS would claim mason
41 - Jock voting FF hoping people agree and pick it up
42 - Bugs facepalming at a Tubesock post.
-J
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+ Show Spoiler +/43 Jock - No-one biting on FF. I'll leave vote there for a few hours.
/44 Bugs - Thinks koshi is scum. FF slam and chezinu also in the pile
/45 Jock - Chez unreadable - Koshi is weird - will leave vote on FF unless people look like they want to vote koshi
/46 Jock - Slam being aggro all of a sudden - weird
/47 Bugs - Vote wherever would prefer slam
48-52 Is just random conversation
53/ Bugs - between FF, Slam, and Chezinu
54/ Bugs wants a go at FF
55/ I wanna prod the newbie and see what he says
/56 lets swap targets
57/ Bugs - Why don't we kill koshi. 3 reasons - TMI, calling town stupid, calling rayn anti--town instead of scum.
58/ Jock if you think we can kill koshi we should
-J
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+ Show Spoiler +/59 Bugs thread is dead
/60 Bugs Why is koshi invested in defending slam?
61/ Bugs - Slam self voting is weird and ballsy but difficult to tell alignment from
62/ Jock - Feel like slam is breadcruming
63/ Bugs - If slam is breadcrumbing mason he deserves to die
64/ Jock - I DON'T KNOW BUGS HE'S JUST WEIRD
65/ Jock - strategy on killing koshi
66/ Bugs- more of the same
67/ Jock - All these people are morons (there gets to be more of this kinda thing)
68/ Bugs - LMAO
69/70/ Jock - Really like hf's point about eversince and the rayn thing but he is straight up defending koshi
71-72 Bugs doesn't really get what hf is saying
73 Jock explains hf's eversince point
74 Jock Do we just lynch chez I dunno
-J
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You guys better townread us after this.
This is the rest of it.
+ Show Spoiler +75 Bugs would rather not lynch Chez - trusts me to do whatever
76 Jock says switching to chez
77 Bugs is pissed off by hf
78 Jock makes point about mafia busing chez invalidating some PoE
79 Bugs thinks day 3 will suck
80 Jock says sorry for lynching chez
81 Bugs says Koshi, FF, Slam are the lynches
82 Bugs notices we tend to swap our reads as EoD nears
83 Jock posts a reads list - Thinks branch might be mafia cos of that EoD
84 Bugs talks about Slam and Tube.
85 - Bugs says 'one less suspect'
86 - Jock combines jock/bugs' read lists into one to come up with ideas for day 3
87 - Bugs rages with fury and fire at hf, koshi and ff
88 - Jock notices that the only people to try and defend us from day 2 lynch were everyone that koshi says is mafia
89 - Bugs not confident that we can win - is leaving for a while to catch a plane.
90 - Jock says fuck everyone
-J
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On July 29 2019 23:29 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2019 23:21 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 29 2019 23:08 Holyflare wrote:On July 29 2019 22:45 Branch.AUT wrote:
FFs list does not even mention me. Simply MUST be scum
(The above is a joke)
I see HF pushing Hydra (my scumread) as one of two things:
HF town agreeing with my read, and pushing the hydra.
HF scum pushing out an inactive veteran, which is just what he would do.
Eywa- how do you read HF this game?
FecalFeast what is your opinion on HF? You know that the hydra has the most posts in the game right now or at least close right? I don't agree with your read, I don't think that one very specific post you pointed out makes them mafia but I suppose independently coming to the same read means we share the read, yes. It'd be more surprising if they didn't, having four hands and two active time zones makes it easy. Why is # of posts important though? Spamming out posts is really easy, just look at slam or koshi... Their reaction to me pointing to this post is far more telling. Especially the part where they ignore my argument and pull unrelated information for their defense is extremely scum to me Number of posts is important because in the post I quoted you say one situation is that I'm pushing an inactive veteran which they most certainly are not? I don't really believe they're mafia after Jock is posting this qt summary. I do expect him to finish though.
WBG, the veteran head announced he would be travelling and inactive. Rephrasing inactive to afk would be correct.
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