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United Kingdom30775 Posts
Unfortunately it's not wrong. All bugs does is talk about masons and mason finding, repeating list posts and essentially treating me as confirmed town the entire game even though I've basically done not much still and haven't even died n2 with no medics. Not even a question in his mind.
That is because he is in charge of the night kills, you can tell because they are really weird ones. The vivax nk that nobody even bats an eye to is repeatedly said to be because mafia is bad at hunting for the obvious mason but nobody even gives a shit because finding a mason is dumb and nobody even thought about vivax being one but I can almost guarantee I know which posts made you kill him.
I don't even think you two talk as a hydra. I reckon you have like a convo going where you say to each other ah yeah we're reading this guy this now, better stick to that. I don't think he'd outsource his vote solely to you if he was town last lynch either.
His reads don't look very natural. Eywa is more mafia because he was afk excused?? Slam was certainly mafia at one point but seems like an afterthought after I dropped him. You guys are probably partnered with him. Koshi read? That he was flailing or some shit? Meh.
Really boring. Pandain at deadline didn't look natural questioning koshi at all and that went straight to a town read. Mz read? Straight out of thin air town read.
Just mafia my dudes.
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On July 29 2019 08:59 Holyflare wrote:
Unfortunately it's not wrong. All bugs does is talk about masons and mason finding, repeating list posts and essentially treating me as confirmed town the entire game even though I've basically done not much still and haven't even died n2 with no medics. Not even a question in his mind.
That is because he is in charge of the night kills, you can tell because they are really weird ones. The vivax nk that nobody even bats an eye to is repeatedly said to be because mafia is bad at hunting for the obvious mason but nobody even gives a shit because finding a mason is dumb and nobody even thought about vivax being one but I can almost guarantee I know which posts made you kill him.
I don't even think you two talk as a hydra. I reckon you have like a convo going where you say to each other ah yeah we're reading this guy this now, better stick to that. I don't think he'd outsource his vote solely to you if he was town last lynch either.
His reads don't look very natural. Eywa is more mafia because he was afk excused?? Slam was certainly mafia at one point but seems like an afterthought after I dropped him. You guys are probably partnered with him. Koshi read? That he was flailing or some shit? Meh.
Really boring. Pandain at deadline didn't look natural questioning koshi at all and that went straight to a town read. Mz read? Straight out of thin air town read.
Just mafia my dudes.
Rayn hates the hydra too.
Hm.
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On July 27 2019 07:36 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 07:23 Alakaslam wrote:On July 27 2019 07:17 Tubesock wrote:
My question marks are NSH, HF, Eywa, Chezinu, Eversince. I should add Coag too.
Anyone want to talk about any of them? I leave in 30 minutes but can phone post a little later tonight and tomorrow morning before the lynch. There is host wifom in the Branch slot that was once Coagulation Hf Eywa town Eversince hasn’t been able to chime in enough or likely scum NSH watch Chezinu probably scum but possibly annoyed with you for not understanding how timelessly important your Survivor reference was (or perhaps, for knowing full well what strings you were pulling) I don't remember why you think Eywa- is town. Can you recap? Or simply just say you've said why, and I'll find it. But I just read your filter and don't remember. HF is tough for me. Usually, he does something I don't think a mafia HF would bother with. Of course he hasn't done anything scummy, HF never actually does I don't think. Maybe silly crazy fakeclaimy shit but still... I'm looking forward to see his town light shine tomorrow. No matter what it'll be fun. While I know the Survivor reference, I don't know how that pertains to Chezinu specifically. I was just using it generically. More a well Chez, you are not playing, so not only do I not have any idea of your alignment, I am not being entertained by your puzzle or hilarity. So, he currently only holds the potential for value to me. Which isn't enough.
Eywa is town because-
Oh got the pronoun and realized why it got mixed up, people confuse Eversince Eywa as they arrived similar time-
HE pushed Rayn in a townie way. I E not evil, just wrong.
That is why I townreads HIM.
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I just realized I was answering his question when the whole reason I filter him is he is dead now.
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On July 25 2019 02:43 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count
Raynpelikoneet (6): Eywa, Holyflare, Koshi, Pandain, Meapak_Ziphh, NoSmurfHere
NoSmurfHere (4): Tubesock, FecalFeast, Raynpelikoneet, Alakaslam, Vivax
Meapak_Ziphh (2): Eywa, FecalFeast, Coagulation
Coagulation (0): Holyflare, Vivax
Holyflare (0): Raynpelikoneet, Meapak_Ziphh
Not Voting (2): Chezinu, Revelator
Raynpelikoneet is currently set to be lynched.
Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is Wednesday, Jul 24 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
FF Branch.AUT don’t look good by VA.
NSH looks worse.
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On July 28 2019 05:01 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count
Chezinu (6): Koshi, Holyflare, Koshi, NoSmurfHere, Pandain, FecalFeast, Tubesock, Eversince, Branch.AUT
Koshi (3): NoSmurfHere, Eversince, Meapak_Ziphh, Pandain, Eversince
NoSmurfHere (1): FecalFeast, Tubesock, Chezinu, Branch.AUT, Koshi, Tubesock
Alakaslam (2): Eywa, Meapak_Ziphh, Alakaslam, Pandain
Eywa (0): Tubesock, FecalFeast
Meapak_Ziphh (0): Eywa, FecalFeast
Pandain (0): Alakaslam, Koshi
Tubesock (0): Chezinu
FecalFeast (0): NoSmurfHere
Chezinu is lynched.
Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is Saturday, Jul 27 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
Like no info here.
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Based purely on voting analysis, I place my vote on hydra.
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Canada11355 Posts
Towniest to scummiest
koshi - smartest being in existence and a golden god among tiny, insignificant, men.
HF - would care more as mafia, is still pretty smart and agrees on the hydra being scum.
meapak_ziff - who? I thought they were scummy fo rlike 1 post day 1 I think and I don't even want to click their filter because at least with pandain I had a vague idea of what he thought before I made this post... ok I did it anyway I'm gonna lean disinterested towny based on tone.
slam - not reading a 9 pager full of trash nope sorry
eversince - breakfast is the most important meal of the day! Passive and absent, not what Id expect at all.
pandain - idk aligns so completely with hydra it's hard to look past it. Shades koshi for dumb reasons that I covered at the time.
eywa- - big day 1 only to immediately run out of gas. Classic scum trait especially when you're cocky, I'm guilty of it and
have seen it before.
hydra - bad tone from my perspective. Has 2 scumreads in me(town) and slam(scummy question mark). lots of words but somehow never makes enough sense to get any traction. Scummy since day 1.
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I'm back home from the weekend. Kinda demoralizing to see both koshi and slam escape the noose. Idk though, the tube NK is making me have some doubts about the hydra.
I'll need to reread some filters tomorrow and reevaluate where I'm at. Gonna take a closer look Branch and Eywa as well as flesh out the hydra/slam/FF/koshi knot.
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Eversince has seemed ok to me so far, Pandain's activity D2 was a bit better which makes me feel more comfortable with him.
I honestly don't know where I'm at with HF. I'll read him over again tomorrow.
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omw to the airport.
I literally could make a case on any player in this game. Understandably lots of people don’t have time to play much and neither do I. So discounting activity altogether and judging players purely based on content leads me to the reads that I have. I’ll save my ranting on the quality of play and what dead players did in particular for postgame since it’s not going to do us any good now, and actually overall I enjoyed the game since I could share with Jock and keep myself at ease knowing that I’m not insane given the complete wonk logic that’s being accepted as legit these days.
Meapak, Pandain, Eversince, if any of you are scum here then kudos for making the most sense despite posting very little. On the basis of content alone you’re my strongest townreads. If any of you are town please talk with Jock in my absence, and me if I manage to get some time to post after my flight & back-to-back work Mondays (I get to experience Monday twice yay). There’s a small possibility we can still win if we lynch scum today, though the game seems hopeless. I’m sure no one has a perfect list of scumreads but maybe if we pool them we can figure out which ones overlap and just go with those. I’m personally still very sure on Koshi.
HF, I am hoping you are scum here otherwise I will have some choice words for you in postgame. This game was very winnable but you have an extremely selfish approach to the game and while I like some of the things you pointed out, particularly on slam on d1, that is not enough to overshadow the fact that in general your play is incredibly antitown even when you are town. Regardless of alignment this game is no exception. If you’re scum then kudos 
Eywa, branch, FF, slam, Koshi: the townies among you should pull your own weight and establish your innocence & don’t fuck up today. If you vote us, that’s an automatic fail. Read the game and come up with your own opinions instead of sheeping.
I maintain that Koshi is still the best lynch given the information I have at hand. Feel free to read my previous posts on the subject, nothing much has changed.
I’ll see you all on the other side of the Pacific.
-wherebugsgo
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On July 29 2019 13:03 NoSmurfHere wrote:omw to the airport. I literally could make a case on any player in this game. Understandably lots of people don’t have time to play much and neither do I. So discounting activity altogether and judging players purely based on content leads me to the reads that I have. I’ll save my ranting on the quality of play and what dead players did in particular for postgame since it’s not going to do us any good now, and actually overall I enjoyed the game since I could share with Jock and keep myself at ease knowing that I’m not insane given the complete wonk logic that’s being accepted as legit these days. Meapak, Pandain, Eversince, if any of you are scum here then kudos for making the most sense despite posting very little. On the basis of content alone you’re my strongest townreads. If any of you are town please talk with Jock in my absence, and me if I manage to get some time to post after my flight & back-to-back work Mondays (I get to experience Monday twice yay). There’s a small possibility we can still win if we lynch scum today, though the game seems hopeless. I’m sure no one has a perfect list of scumreads but maybe if we pool them we can figure out which ones overlap and just go with those. I’m personally still very sure on Koshi. HF, I am hoping you are scum here otherwise I will have some choice words for you in postgame. This game was very winnable but you have an extremely selfish approach to the game and while I like some of the things you pointed out, particularly on slam on d1, that is not enough to overshadow the fact that in general your play is incredibly antitown even when you are town. Regardless of alignment this game is no exception. If you’re scum then kudos Eywa, branch, FF, slam, Koshi: the townies among you should pull your own weight and establish your innocence & don’t fuck up today. If you vote us, that’s an automatic fail. Read the game and come up with your own opinions instead of sheeping. I maintain that Koshi is still the best lynch given the information I have at hand. Feel free to read my previous posts on the subject, nothing much has changed. I’ll see you all on the other side of the Pacific. -wherebugsgo
Kudos on very inspiring post that wasn’t inspiring to me given the context. You basically proved that I am incapable of playing this game because I am not a social detective.
Despite that, wanna meet up in LA? You have to work the whole time or?
Right now I am in NorCal because my grandfather is ailing. But I travel easily.
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Like how the hell can I establish innocence? Most of you quote literally hate Rayn for being Rayn and hate me for being me.
Straight up.
I gave fucks until that shit happened and when you proved that the only way to win is to misconstrue, talk witty, and act bombastic like Marv and that whole crew of vets and I realized that they indeed had the best track records on this site, and that some of my worst track record games are also my best performances, I realized my cause is pointless.
Because like my real life position, I have no influence but I’m usually uncannily right anyway and still rich as all get out even though none of the money is mine, so I have no control over it. So also all the reads I make can be plenty right but since the votes don’t belong to me, I have no control over them so without influence being right doesn’t matter and my inability to influence is sacked. In both cases.
Like what the hell, I’m a martyr and told everyone don’t lynch Rayn, knew Eywa would blame him for being bad instead of admitting I knew what the hell I was talking about and also thought Chezinu could die
Like not only is my information perfect for scum, it’s even better because I shaded the cop
I’m straight up hacker scum yo.
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On July 29 2019 13:39 Alakaslam wrote:
Like how the hell can I establish innocence? Most of you quote literally hate Rayn for being Rayn and hate me for being me.
Straight up.
I gave fucks until that shit happened and when you proved that the only way to win is to misconstrue, talk witty, and act bombastic like Marv and that whole crew of vets and I realized that they indeed had the best track records on this site, and that some of my worst track record games are also my best performances, I realized my cause is pointless.
Because like my real life position, I have no influence but I’m usually uncannily right anyway and still rich as all get out even though none of the money is mine, so I have no control over it. So also all the reads I make can be plenty right but since the votes don’t belong to me, I have no control over them so without influence being right doesn’t matter and my inability to influence is sacked. In both cases.
Like what the hell, I’m a martyr and told everyone don’t lynch Rayn, knew Eywa would blame him for being bad instead of admitting I knew what the hell I was talking about and also thought Chezinu could die
Like not only is my information perfect for scum, it’s even better because I shaded the cop
I’m straight up hacker scum yo.
Quite literally not what my phone autocorrects to
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Canada11355 Posts
On July 29 2019 13:03 NoSmurfHere wrote:omw to the airport. I literally could make a case on any player in this game. Understandably lots of people don’t have time to play much and neither do I. So discounting activity altogether and judging players purely based on content leads me to the reads that I have. I’ll save my ranting on the quality of play and what dead players did in particular for postgame since it’s not going to do us any good now, and actually overall I enjoyed the game since I could share with Jock and keep myself at ease knowing that I’m not insane given the complete wonk logic that’s being accepted as legit these days. Meapak, Pandain, Eversince, if any of you are scum here then kudos for making the most sense despite posting very little. On the basis of content alone you’re my strongest townreads. If any of you are town please talk with Jock in my absence, and me if I manage to get some time to post after my flight & back-to-back work Mondays (I get to experience Monday twice yay). There’s a small possibility we can still win if we lynch scum today, though the game seems hopeless. I’m sure no one has a perfect list of scumreads but maybe if we pool them we can figure out which ones overlap and just go with those. I’m personally still very sure on Koshi. HF, I am hoping you are scum here otherwise I will have some choice words for you in postgame. This game was very winnable but you have an extremely selfish approach to the game and while I like some of the things you pointed out, particularly on slam on d1, that is not enough to overshadow the fact that in general your play is incredibly antitown even when you are town. Regardless of alignment this game is no exception. If you’re scum then kudos Eywa, branch, FF, slam, Koshi: the townies among you should pull your own weight and establish your innocence & don’t fuck up today. If you vote us, that’s an automatic fail. Read the game and come up with your own opinions instead of sheeping. I maintain that Koshi is still the best lynch given the information I have at hand. Feel free to read my previous posts on the subject, nothing much has changed. I’ll see you all on the other side of the Pacific. -wherebugsgo
im not sheeping and have a lot of posts sorry try again
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Day Three Vote Count
NoSmurfHere (3): Holyflare, FecalFeast, Alakaslam
Koshi (1): NoSmurfHere
Not Voting (6): Eywa, Pandain, Branch.AUT, Koshi, Meapak_Ziphh, Eversince
NoSmurfHere is currently set to be lynched.
Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is Tuesday, Jul 30 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
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On July 29 2019 09:57 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2019 08:59 Holyflare wrote:
Unfortunately it's not wrong. All bugs does is talk about masons and mason finding, repeating list posts and essentially treating me as confirmed town the entire game even though I've basically done not much still and haven't even died n2 with no medics. Not even a question in his mind.
That is because he is in charge of the night kills, you can tell because they are really weird ones. The vivax nk that nobody even bats an eye to is repeatedly said to be because mafia is bad at hunting for the obvious mason but nobody even gives a shit because finding a mason is dumb and nobody even thought about vivax being one but I can almost guarantee I know which posts made you kill him.
I don't even think you two talk as a hydra. I reckon you have like a convo going where you say to each other ah yeah we're reading this guy this now, better stick to that. I don't think he'd outsource his vote solely to you if he was town last lynch either.
His reads don't look very natural. Eywa is more mafia because he was afk excused?? Slam was certainly mafia at one point but seems like an afterthought after I dropped him. You guys are probably partnered with him. Koshi read? That he was flailing or some shit? Meh.
Really boring. Pandain at deadline didn't look natural questioning koshi at all and that went straight to a town read. Mz read? Straight out of thin air town read.
Just mafia my dudes. Rayn hates the hydra too. Hm.
I like how everyone keeps conveniently forgetting that rayn decided we were mafia before we even posted anything. I've been defending us from morons and mafia ever since that moment.
I'm fucking sick of it now to be honest I'm going to ignore everything the mafia and morons are saying about us and just make the case for koshi dying.
If town decides to listen to mafia and kill us then so be it.
If town decides that their detective work of figuring out that only we would want to kill tubesock and the mafia could never have realized this and used it is better then town loses.
If people are willing to listen to us, to look at day 2 with sensible eyes and see the progression of how that day went from the beginning to the end they will know that we aren't mafia, we've been trying to find mafia this entire time and every time we do people scum read us for it.
Koshi was willing to sheep a vote on us even though he thought we were town.
When people started joining us on the koshi vote all of a sudden him and hf turn up and completely change the game going for a chez lynch instead, and hf then uses the results of that lynch to push us, even though he inferred heavily that we were town at the end of day 2.
We are the patsy for whoever out of koshi/hf are leading the mafia.
Koshi was acting incredibly scummy for the whole of day 2. He was blatantly lying about things that happened, misrepresenting facts etc. etc.
The case has already been made by myself as well as others. There's no reason not to believe koshi is mafia if you believed that yesterday.
If you are changing to believe that we are mafia instead on the basis that tubsesock died, then you are easily manipulated and the worst thing about that is that the mafia knows you are easily manipulated.
I'll post again if pandain/eywa/slam/MZ/Branch/ES want to talk about the lynch. Otherwise do what the fuck you want. HF and koshi can do one.
-J
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Just for one little exercise to ease my mind about the town play, please could every player quote this post and tell me whether you think its smart town play to scum read us because tubesock was the night kill.
-J
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^^Just yes or no answers please
-J
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United Kingdom30775 Posts
On July 29 2019 13:39 Alakaslam wrote:
Like how the hell can I establish innocence? Most of you quote literally hate Rayn for being Rayn and hate me for being me.
Straight up.
I gave fucks until that shit happened and when you proved that the only way to win is to misconstrue, talk witty, and act bombastic like Marv and that whole crew of vets and I realized that they indeed had the best track records on this site, and that some of my worst track record games are also my best performances, I realized my cause is pointless.
Because like my real life position, I have no influence but I’m usually uncannily right anyway and still rich as all get out even though none of the money is mine, so I have no control over it. So also all the reads I make can be plenty right but since the votes don’t belong to me, I have no control over them so without influence being right doesn’t matter and my inability to influence is sacked. In both cases.
Like what the hell, I’m a martyr and told everyone don’t lynch Rayn, knew Eywa would blame him for being bad instead of admitting I knew what the hell I was talking about and also thought Chezinu could die
Like not only is my information perfect for scum, it’s even better because I shaded the cop
I’m straight up hacker scum yo.
Nobody will respect you if you try and change yourself for one game and give up and vote yourself. Do you think they vote you for being correct or just by the fact you're incredibly different? How can you purport that you're extremely good at finding patterns but then criticise people that say you're following a completely different kind of pattern so could be mafia?
People like marv do well because they have a proven track record of saying good things and lynching mafia. It's rare to start off with that much traction, incredibly so. Being a vet means absolutely nothing because 90% of this game contains vet players.
People follow other people because they have good, convincing reasons to lynch people that resonate with other people. I was correct on Eversince last game but nobody followed me then. Is that because I'm a vocal vet that everyone always sheeps? No. It's because I wasn't convincing enough and people have their own ideas.
So, why did we not follow you on rayn or town read you for being correct on rayn? Because you have no evidence, no rhyme or reason and you just criticised incorrectly after the fact.
You said nobody had a case, which was factually incorrect. People called you out on that and you were afk. Whether that was timezone, work or whatever. That festers uncertainty. People scum read uncertainty. You then said everything against rayn was trash but also that you completely misread rayn. None of these points are fully explained. People scum read points that are unexplained. Do you think Koshi is being scum read because he got some reads right or something? People are scum reading him for unexplained reads, lack of follow up and inability to answer questions about those reads.
Playing mafia is absolutely nothing about social sway and absolutely everything about being accountable for your reads, convincing people through coherent reasoning and finding good lynches from narrowing down town reads to find mafia. What is your town read list? I don't know it. Does anyone else? Not even sure who you really scum read!
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