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On July 28 2019 22:36 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2019 04:59 Pandain wrote:On July 28 2019 04:59 Branch.AUT wrote:
Cutting it very close to deadline here.
I dislike this Chezinu Lynch sinze it's 8/11 just bad. Voting him anyway because of town ??? With 0 information available on chezinu, and 11 players out of which 3 are mafia, a blind lynch into inactive has an 8/11 chance of being a town lynch.
It's not a blind random lynch into an inactive though is it? If you've narrowed down players that you think are town the odds of him being mafia increase. He wasn't classified as super inactive either, he had posted things in the thread just none of it content (which, again, increases the odds of him being mafia).
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What if I told you I was rayn's partner but had to afk and didn't save him?
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Don't think I agree with any of your scum reads and I'm packing my house to move this week so mafia should probably leave me alive anyway because I'm no use.
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The d1 rayn lynch was really bad.
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My case:
Bugs has been more concerned finding a mason the entire game than actually playing mafia.
Vote please.
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Unfortunately it's not wrong. All bugs does is talk about masons and mason finding, repeating list posts and essentially treating me as confirmed town the entire game even though I've basically done not much still and haven't even died n2 with no medics. Not even a question in his mind.
That is because he is in charge of the night kills, you can tell because they are really weird ones. The vivax nk that nobody even bats an eye to is repeatedly said to be because mafia is bad at hunting for the obvious mason but nobody even gives a shit because finding a mason is dumb and nobody even thought about vivax being one but I can almost guarantee I know which posts made you kill him.
I don't even think you two talk as a hydra. I reckon you have like a convo going where you say to each other ah yeah we're reading this guy this now, better stick to that. I don't think he'd outsource his vote solely to you if he was town last lynch either.
His reads don't look very natural. Eywa is more mafia because he was afk excused?? Slam was certainly mafia at one point but seems like an afterthought after I dropped him. You guys are probably partnered with him. Koshi read? That he was flailing or some shit? Meh.
Really boring. Pandain at deadline didn't look natural questioning koshi at all and that went straight to a town read. Mz read? Straight out of thin air town read.
Just mafia my dudes.
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On July 29 2019 13:39 Alakaslam wrote:
Like how the hell can I establish innocence? Most of you quote literally hate Rayn for being Rayn and hate me for being me.
Straight up.
I gave fucks until that shit happened and when you proved that the only way to win is to misconstrue, talk witty, and act bombastic like Marv and that whole crew of vets and I realized that they indeed had the best track records on this site, and that some of my worst track record games are also my best performances, I realized my cause is pointless.
Because like my real life position, I have no influence but I’m usually uncannily right anyway and still rich as all get out even though none of the money is mine, so I have no control over it. So also all the reads I make can be plenty right but since the votes don’t belong to me, I have no control over them so without influence being right doesn’t matter and my inability to influence is sacked. In both cases.
Like what the hell, I’m a martyr and told everyone don’t lynch Rayn, knew Eywa would blame him for being bad instead of admitting I knew what the hell I was talking about and also thought Chezinu could die
Like not only is my information perfect for scum, it’s even better because I shaded the cop
I’m straight up hacker scum yo.
Nobody will respect you if you try and change yourself for one game and give up and vote yourself. Do you think they vote you for being correct or just by the fact you're incredibly different? How can you purport that you're extremely good at finding patterns but then criticise people that say you're following a completely different kind of pattern so could be mafia?
People like marv do well because they have a proven track record of saying good things and lynching mafia. It's rare to start off with that much traction, incredibly so. Being a vet means absolutely nothing because 90% of this game contains vet players.
People follow other people because they have good, convincing reasons to lynch people that resonate with other people. I was correct on Eversince last game but nobody followed me then. Is that because I'm a vocal vet that everyone always sheeps? No. It's because I wasn't convincing enough and people have their own ideas.
So, why did we not follow you on rayn or town read you for being correct on rayn? Because you have no evidence, no rhyme or reason and you just criticised incorrectly after the fact.
You said nobody had a case, which was factually incorrect. People called you out on that and you were afk. Whether that was timezone, work or whatever. That festers uncertainty. People scum read uncertainty. You then said everything against rayn was trash but also that you completely misread rayn. None of these points are fully explained. People scum read points that are unexplained. Do you think Koshi is being scum read because he got some reads right or something? People are scum reading him for unexplained reads, lack of follow up and inability to answer questions about those reads.
Playing mafia is absolutely nothing about social sway and absolutely everything about being accountable for your reads, convincing people through coherent reasoning and finding good lynches from narrowing down town reads to find mafia. What is your town read list? I don't know it. Does anyone else? Not even sure who you really scum read!
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It was probably the worst post I've seen in the game. I agree.
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On July 28 2019 05:10 Holyflare wrote:Well my plan is also kind of over soooooo whoops 
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I'm sure there is a lot to be learnt from looking at who voted with their scum reads to lynch chez over their proper scum reads or whatever but I'm not the man to do it currently. Far more important things to do.
The hydra is the worst though. Imagine blaming me for lynching chezinu (bugs did) but their hydra partner was the one who joined the wagon too.
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On July 29 2019 22:56 NoSmurfHere wrote:
HF + Branch
What information has town gained from the tubesock night kill?
-J
That you're mafia because all that you and bugs truly care about is tubesock night kill when you're dying.
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Not a single person in this game has accused me of being properly mafia when there is a tubesock AND a vivax night kill. Why is that? It's because the other people who are likely to be these night kills (koshi, bugs) etc don't want to bring attention to that fact and point themselves out.
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On July 29 2019 22:59 NoSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2019 22:57 Holyflare wrote:On July 29 2019 22:56 NoSmurfHere wrote:
HF + Branch
What information has town gained from the tubesock night kill?
-J That you're mafia because all that you and bugs truly care about is tubesock night kill when you're dying. I was hoping I could get you specifically to answer that. We all know this kind of night kill is WIFOM. Only mafia with massive ego would be so attached to that stupid plan that they would come out and say it in the thread lol
I don't even understand what this post says but there is not a chance on this planet I ever kill vivax and then tubesock.
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Jock where are you and bugs communicating?
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On July 29 2019 23:01 NoSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2019 22:59 Holyflare wrote:
Not a single person in this game has accused me of being properly mafia when there is a tubesock AND a vivax night kill. Why is that? It's because the other people who are likely to be these night kills (koshi, bugs) etc don't want to bring attention to that fact and point themselves out. If we wanted to hide as mafia do you really think we'd NK someone who has ONLY scumread us the entire game? Don't be a moron. It was a stupid mafia plan with no foresight and you can't admit it.-J
You got me, that really sounds similar to my mafia play !
I don't even understand what this mafia plan you're talking about is? That I kill tubesock and blame you as my plan? Is that it?
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On July 29 2019 23:01 NoSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2019 23:01 Holyflare wrote:
Jock where are you and bugs communicating? We have our own QT -J
Please paraphrase every post in it from start to finish and the days they were posted.
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On July 29 2019 23:04 NoSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2019 23:03 Holyflare wrote:On July 29 2019 23:01 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 29 2019 22:59 Holyflare wrote:
Not a single person in this game has accused me of being properly mafia when there is a tubesock AND a vivax night kill. Why is that? It's because the other people who are likely to be these night kills (koshi, bugs) etc don't want to bring attention to that fact and point themselves out. If we wanted to hide as mafia do you really think we'd NK someone who has ONLY scumread us the entire game? Don't be a moron. It was a stupid mafia plan with no foresight and you can't admit it.-J You got me, that really sounds similar to my mafia play ! I don't even understand what this mafia plan you're talking about is? That I kill tubesock and blame you as my plan? Is that it? Yeah basically. It should be absolutely clear that you can't infer anything useful from that night kill. Especially not to call a single player mafia off the back of it. Either you are a terrible player and you don't know that or you can't admit to yourself that it was a stupid plan in the first place. I know which I would say is more likely.
No, it's not absolutely clear but I never even said you were mafia because of tubesock night kill did I? Reread my accusations again and maybe come up with something substantial that's good.
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On July 29 2019 23:05 NoSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2019 23:03 Holyflare wrote:On July 29 2019 23:01 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 29 2019 23:01 Holyflare wrote:
Jock where are you and bugs communicating? We have our own QT -J Please paraphrase every post in it from start to finish and the days they were posted. There are currently 90 posts you really want me to do that its gonna take me ages -J
Absolutely. Every single one.
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It really shouldn't take long to summarise 90 posts. Maybe 10 minutes. Unless you have to fabricate them.
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On July 29 2019 22:45 Branch.AUT wrote:
FFs list does not even mention me. Simply MUST be scum
(The above is a joke)
I see HF pushing Hydra (my scumread) as one of two things:
HF town agreeing with my read, and pushing the hydra.
HF scum pushing out an inactive veteran, which is just what he would do.
Eywa- how do you read HF this game?
FecalFeast what is your opinion on HF?
You know that the hydra has the most posts in the game right now or at least close right?
I don't agree with your read, I don't think that one very specific post you pointed out makes them mafia but I suppose independently coming to the same read means we share the read, yes.
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