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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 11 2019 07:04 GMT
#7
/in
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 23 2019 07:43 GMT
#98
Wut why is there a night 0?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 23 2019 07:50 GMT
#99
I can't even find anything about a n0 in the op what is going on?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 23 2019 07:50 GMT
#100
Palmar wasn't even in the game... Right... Carry on :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 23 2019 07:51 GMT
#101
Personally I blame Pandain for looking similar to Palmar. I hope you'll take responsibility for this.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 23 2019 07:54 GMT
#102
##vote Coagulation

Fun fact, my auto correct already suggests voting coagulation after just pressing C.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 23 2019 09:32 GMT
#105
On July 23 2019 17:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The more i think about it holyflare feels weird this game.


Should probably just stop thinking then
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 23 2019 09:36 GMT
#106
I was honestly gonna go into a rant about how shit this game was for having a n0 and how I was confirmed town because I'd never shoot palmar and then I'd already formulated a list of suspects of coag, mz, chez, bugs, possibly you but here we are. I'm still confirmed town though
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 23 2019 09:36 GMT
#107
I find it weird how you found me weird and haven't done anything about it in 40 mins though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 23 2019 10:30 GMT
#113
You dumb? Saw Palmar died, skimmed player list, saw a name starting with Pa thought whoa this game is shit, Palmar is dead and he barely ever plays. Made connections with who would shoot Palmar. Reskimmed the op, no n0, think what's going on, look at player list again, it's Pandain. Oh, ok. Vote guy that has a town seal and is easy confirmation and he claimed mafia which I think he did before.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 23 2019 10:31 GMT
#114
Thanks for making me more confirmed :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 23 2019 10:33 GMT
#115
##Vote raynpelikoneet

Took you far too long to even accuse me of anything and it was shit.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 23 2019 10:34 GMT
#116
And on top of that you said I'm weird this game, did nothing, then wrote a case saying my initial posts were fine. So why were they originally cause for concern rayn?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 23 2019 18:37 GMT
#224
On July 24 2019 02:38 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Immediate gut reactions:

Don't like koshi's first post. No redeeming features of that one.

Don't like the way hf misunderstands the day post and then uses his own misunderstanding as evidence that he is town. Although rayn is right that it would be convoluted for mafia hf to do that, I wouldn't put convoluted out of hf's range.

Vivax - nothingburger

Coagulation - Scumclaims suck dude.

FF - dunno

Eywa - Very quick to scumread rayn but I wouldn't say that's impossible for town eywa.

rayn - waiting to see on this one.

Leaving now, won't be back until later tonight. Might have a chance to post something more fleshed out then.


Despite what I said about rayn wanting to lynch us, I think in a game this size lynching a lurker would be a good move.

J


Why did you say you don't want to put your views into the thread because of the mechanics of hydras (implying you wanted to talk to bugs about it first) but then put out your reads in the thread?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 23 2019 18:38 GMT
#225
Also this thread is the most confusing fucking thing to read, it's just questions answered with dead ends and cryptic sentences and very boring.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 23 2019 18:43 GMT
#228
On July 23 2019 19:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well w/e gonna write on phone.

I found you weird vecause the post on pandain didnt sit well with me, neither did the vote on coag after.
I thought you had read at öeast some posts when you started posting and if you believed someone actually died you didnt find me weird since i sure would have an opening different than what it was (if there indeed was a nk). Obvs an expllanation would be that you didnt read any posts, which is why i wanted a confirmation on why you actually voted for coag (basically you could give out you in fact rwad posts before you started oosting). Thats why i originally asked about your vote and nothing more.


I don't think there is anything to be said about Tubesock and i also think HF makes a fair point on coag.


On July 23 2019 19:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2019 16:43 Holyflare wrote:
Wut why is there a night 0?

Show nested quote +
On July 23 2019 16:50 Holyflare wrote:
I can't even find anything about a n0 in the op what is going on?

Show nested quote +
On July 23 2019 16:50 Holyflare wrote:
Palmar wasn't even in the game... Right... Carry on :D

Show nested quote +
On July 23 2019 16:51 Holyflare wrote:
Personally I blame Pandain for looking similar to Palmar. I hope you'll take responsibility for this.

Now this is fine i think. Holyflare doesn't read the OP, sees Pandain dying during N0 (because of the green part, i can't even imagine what that would otherwise mean), then realises "shit it's not pandain it's palmar, lol palmar is not even in the game".

Fine, this however doesn't make any sense at all:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2019 18:36 Holyflare wrote:
I was honestly gonna go into a rant about how shit this game was for having a n0 and how I was confirmed town because I'd never shoot palmar and then I'd already formulated a list of suspects of coag, mz, chez, bugs, possibly you but here we are. I'm still confirmed town though

So AFTER Holyflare realises it's not in fact pandain but palmar who "died" he forms a list of possible candidates. I don't think this makes any sense because either at this point he thinks it was not palmar but pandain or he has already figured out the whole nk doesnt even make any sense.



Can you explain to me how you can make all the red statements together? How can you dislike me for the posts on pandain/palmar and the vote on coag but then say my posts on pandain look fine in your case on me and afterwards say that voting coag is good? Just so you know, I think you're mafia still.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 23 2019 18:47 GMT
#230
No, you didn't? You just explain that you disliked me because of the pandain posts but in your case you literally say the pandain posts are fine. It's only the:

Fine, this however doesn't make any sense at all:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2019 18:36 Holyflare wrote:
I was honestly gonna go into a rant about how shit this game was for having a n0 and how I was confirmed town because I'd never shoot palmar and then I'd already formulated a list of suspects of coag, mz, chez, bugs, possibly you but here we are. I'm still confirmed town though


The timeline doesn't add up at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 23 2019 18:56 GMT
#232
This is the timeline:

1. HF makes post about palmar/pandain 101

2. HF votes coag 102

3. Rayn says HF is weird because of the Pandain posts and vote on coag 104


4. HF explains how he was going to go in a rant about n0 kills and forming a list of suspects 106

5. Rayn makes a case on HF 112

The problem with this case is that it says you are FINE with my Pandain posts after having literally just said in 104 how weird my Pandain posts were! You THEN scum read me for the rant bit (clear misunderstanding, fine, but the first point still stands).


6. HF clarifies expertly 113

7. Rayn says that makes sense 117

8. Rayn rants at Koshi and says HF makes fair point about Coag 123





There is conflicting info here. Point 3 contradicts point 5 (where you say you are FINE with my Pandain posts) and point 3 also contradicts point 8 where you agree with the Coag points!!

So, you either lied about the Coag and Pandain points making me "weird" since you say you LIKED them in both your case and your rant at Koshi or you've been caught out.

Either way, I'm actually voting you now and implore everyone else to do the same.

##vote raynpelikoneet
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 23 2019 18:58 GMT
#234
If it was a fair point on Coag why are you not voting Coag?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 24 2019 03:59 GMT
#331
On July 24 2019 07:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 03:38 Holyflare wrote:
Also this thread is the most confusing fucking thing to read, it's just questions answered with dead ends and cryptic sentences and very boring.


I was not impressed by HF's entry to the thread at all and I was glad to see rayn jumped on that. However I was going to wait and see what HF's next posts would be... and these haven't been much better. For instance this one here; thread is pretty readable at the moment aside from rayn and eywa getting in a pissing match, and HF's post does nothing but muddy the waters. The thing I hate most about posts like this is that it doesn't even seek to remedy the problems it points out, it simply adds more chaff to the thread which runs counter to a good town environment.

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On July 24 2019 03:43 Holyflare wrote:
On July 23 2019 19:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well w/e gonna write on phone.

I found you weird vecause the post on pandain didnt sit well with me, neither did the vote on coag after.
I thought you had read at öeast some posts when you started posting and if you believed someone actually died you didnt find me weird since i sure would have an opening different than what it was (if there indeed was a nk). Obvs an expllanation would be that you didnt read any posts, which is why i wanted a confirmation on why you actually voted for coag (basically you could give out you in fact rwad posts before you started oosting). Thats why i originally asked about your vote and nothing more.


I don't think there is anything to be said about Tubesock and i also think HF makes a fair point on coag.


On July 23 2019 19:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 23 2019 16:43 Holyflare wrote:
Wut why is there a night 0?

On July 23 2019 16:50 Holyflare wrote:
I can't even find anything about a n0 in the op what is going on?

On July 23 2019 16:50 Holyflare wrote:
Palmar wasn't even in the game... Right... Carry on :D

On July 23 2019 16:51 Holyflare wrote:
Personally I blame Pandain for looking similar to Palmar. I hope you'll take responsibility for this.

Now this is fine i think. Holyflare doesn't read the OP, sees Pandain dying during N0 (because of the green part, i can't even imagine what that would otherwise mean), then realises "shit it's not pandain it's palmar, lol palmar is not even in the game".

Fine, this however doesn't make any sense at all:
On July 23 2019 18:36 Holyflare wrote:
I was honestly gonna go into a rant about how shit this game was for having a n0 and how I was confirmed town because I'd never shoot palmar and then I'd already formulated a list of suspects of coag, mz, chez, bugs, possibly you but here we are. I'm still confirmed town though

So AFTER Holyflare realises it's not in fact pandain but palmar who "died" he forms a list of possible candidates. I don't think this makes any sense because either at this point he thinks it was not palmar but pandain or he has already figured out the whole nk doesnt even make any sense.



Can you explain to me how you can make all the red statements together? How can you dislike me for the posts on pandain/palmar and the vote on coag but then say my posts on pandain look fine in your case on me and afterwards say that voting coag is good? Just so you know, I think you're mafia still.

I have no idea why HF put the newer post first but it seems like another attempt at muddying the waters as it obfuscates the point rayn was making and tries to present a contradiction that doesn't exist if you read the posts in the order rayn posted them.

And then HF ends things off by voting for rayn based on a contradiction that he essentially invented.

##Vote: HolyFlare



Maybe it's hard to read but it really doesn't matter what order I put them in in this post because I make a literal timeline that explains it perfectly in my post here:

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/549650-cupids-arrow-mafia?page=12#232

Which you've completely ignored?
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