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On August 02 2019 03:06 NoSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2019 03:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On August 02 2019 02:55 NoSmurfHere wrote:On August 02 2019 02:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Oh here comes the counter push from Koshi and Eywa. Right on cue when I push Branch. You're getting played Jock. If koshi and branch were mafia why didn't they kill us last night? They leave alive the confirmed town that's been scumreading them and pushing them when they have 2 kills?? If eywa and branch were mafia together why was branch voting for, and pushing, eywa for pretty much the whole of yesterday? None of that makes any sense at all. It makes much more sense if you left us alive because you wanted us to push koshi and branch today. -J The same is true for me. If you or I show up dead today Branch/Koshi are the auto today. What doesn't make sense is the eversince push from a town PoV, quickly followed up with the shift onto me once I point out how bad it is and refocus things on Branch. People reaching for scum reads on eversince reeks of scum trying not to vote for their basically outed teammates. No there's perfectly good town reasons for both the vote on ES and the vote on you. -J Your vote on me I get, the two scum voting me I also get. There was no good reason for the ES vote. None at all.
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I have to fly tonight.
My vote is going to remain on Branch. He opportunistically changes his votes, he saved Koshi. He fake pushes his buddy Eywa.
Hydra you really need to reread him.
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On August 02 2019 18:38 Branch.AUT wrote: I think MZ is scum because:
Previously he started sowing accusation across different posts D2/N2. Following this he wrote a very misinterpreted case on may on day 3. His collection of out of context quotes and intentional misinterpretation was neither convincid, nor factual. Many of his accusatory points had reasonable explanaitions, already provided prior to his case.
I explained to him what he got wrong, and even offered him an easy out of this misread (A post about cognitive bias and one of his first posts in the game about coagulation who I replaced). Instead he doubled down and kept throwing mud at me in bypassing comments on other conversations all the way through N3.
I can only take this to mean, he is scum trying to set-up an "easy" mislynch in lylo on the newbie player for days in advance. You and eywa have a funny way of viewing things you don't understand as scummy. Which I suppose you don't understand things because you are scum.
Question for Eversince, Pandain, and Hydra. If I am scum and I come into the thread yesterday and see that ES is about to be lynched, why do I try and switch the votes onto Branch? Why even say anything? Branch has unfortunately got jock wrapped around his finger so Eversince and Pandain it's going to be up to you guys. Branch is 100% the right vote here. Normally I'd be fine with just letting the flip prove me right but unfortunately that strategy doesn't work at lylo.
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Like this little wagon on me spun up the second that I accused Branch again.
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On August 03 2019 00:05 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2019 21:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On August 02 2019 18:38 Branch.AUT wrote: I think MZ is scum because:
Previously he started sowing accusation across different posts D2/N2. Following this he wrote a very misinterpreted case on may on day 3. His collection of out of context quotes and intentional misinterpretation was neither convincid, nor factual. Many of his accusatory points had reasonable explanaitions, already provided prior to his case.
I explained to him what he got wrong, and even offered him an easy out of this misread (A post about cognitive bias and one of his first posts in the game about coagulation who I replaced). Instead he doubled down and kept throwing mud at me in bypassing comments on other conversations all the way through N3.
I can only take this to mean, he is scum trying to set-up an "easy" mislynch in lylo on the newbie player for days in advance. You and eywa have a funny way of viewing things you don't understand as scummy. Which I suppose you don't understand things because you are scum. Question for Eversince, Pandain, and Hydra. If I am scum and I come into the thread yesterday and see that ES is about to be lynched, why do I try and switch the votes onto Branch? Why even say anything? Branch has unfortunately got jock wrapped around his finger so Eversince and Pandain it's going to be up to you guys. Branch is 100% the right vote here. Normally I'd be fine with just letting the flip prove me right but unfortunately that strategy doesn't work at lylo. Your myslynch attempt on the new player is as transparent as it is doomed to fail. Lol yeah you played a pretty decent scum game for a new player. I still find it hilarious how being new is your defense for the Koshi shit, all your opportunistic votes, and your lack of consistent reads.
Either way I'm not gonna be around at the deadline as usual so it looks like this game is a loss since I don't think the Hydra is gonna switch even if eversince and Pandain figure it out. I think I've been the lylo lynch twice now in the past year so clearly I need to work on my town game a bit
GG
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I fucking hate playing scum. GG all.
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Fuck playing scum. Although this was my first ever mafia win.
GG all.
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On August 06 2019 06:03 Eywa- wrote: The scum team was not really in agreement for the night where we got 2 kills, so that's something we were able to utilize to our advantage, I was never killing HF and Slam there. I really wanted the Hydra alive and of course that backfired on me because they immediately figured out what was going on.
D1 I tried to instigate a little chaos between hf and rayn and got burned for it bc I'm bad at actually manipulating people as scum.
After my D1 debacle I just played D2 and 3 as if I was town and tried to find the people who I would have voted for if I hadn't known who the real team was. It actually worked out ok for me and a lot of people at least sorta townread me. I honestly probably would have pushed Koshi or branch had I been town too.
Of course the night kills slowly tore apart the associations I was making and it became harder not to push the scum. I was basically caught with my pants down because my reads never changed. If I had tried to blend in on the eversince push D4, I might have lived. However that was legit one of the worst pushes I've seen recently and I probably would have been mislynched as town anyway because I still would have pushed Branch. His play at both EoDs was pretty rough around the edges and I would have assumed it was new scum. My hard defense of eversince ended up kinda working in the team's favor but it still killed me that people wanted to lynch her over branch or koshi.
As an aside, townies owe it to themselves to not appear scummy. Had koshi been more involved from the start idk if scum wins like that.
So there you have it, after 9 years of mafia I'm still trash as scum but at least I finally got a win.
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And of course, thanks for hosting grack
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I'm auto lynching Pandain any time he is slightly less than 100% helpful from now on. Every time he plays like this he is scum and wins. I was just lucky enough to get carried with him this time.
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On August 06 2019 12:05 Eversince wrote: I still wonder why scum didn't just lynch me earlier cycle lol.. Literal easy to just lynch in-active ES because I had no option to do anything ever there. Would of been so easy. Because I thought you were obvious town and that Branch had played really scummy. D2 and D3 I had tried to play scum as if I was town and it had worked out well. D4 my associations I had built were kinda falling apart so it was hard for me to continue to sell Branch despite the fact that I thought he was objectively a better lynch (from a townk perspective) in a vacuum. My push on him was because I kinda forgot I was scum. I should have just sheeped along and killed you. We might have won then although I suppose in hindsight my sellout defense of you made you look pretty bad so it worked out for me lol.
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On August 07 2019 02:53 Fecalfeast wrote:But seriously I called out mz and had eywa scum all game also Pandain was the last non-sub person to post after this so I'm taking all the postgame cred thanks Also it's my korean birthday woop woop I wanted to kill you D1 but it would have directly implicated the entire team. You played a really good game.
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Bugs I love you but I think blaming Rayn for the forum losing activity is a little harsh.
I think a lot of us grew up and got jobs and lives and our free time to scroll endlessly through TL disappeared... at least that's what happened in my case. I still enjoy playing and pop in every now and then when I have a stretch of time that will support me reading a thread forna few hours a day.
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