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btw HF, nice catch on his response to me re: him being really confident you are town, into now being really confident you are scum. That first post while in isolation might not have been a scumslip, with the read reversal purely based on Vivax dying it almost certainly was one.
HF you can go into the tentative town bucket, I'm upgrading slam to my lynch target of choice.
Jock controls our vote though, especially because I'm inactive when everyone else is active and vice versa so I'm delegating to him. He can post his thoughts when he's actually awake and playing, and if my evening dinner date is boring I'll hop on to chat with him then, otherwise will hear back Saturday morning here in Japan.
-wherebugsgo
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On July 26 2019 08:49 Holyflare wrote: Well whoever the mason is I don't think they should really claim because at least mafia can shoot into that shit show.
btw if you actually think I am scum, I have figured out who the mason is and had it figured out yesterday almost immediately after the flip. You can take me at my word for this, if I were scum the other mason would be dead right now.
Anyway I agree with the mason not needing to claim, because my opinion is that scum this game are too stupid to see it and we don't need to help them out.
-wherebugsgo
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It’s super fun to see HF wake up and smash.
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On July 26 2019 06:41 Alakaslam wrote: Will filter Vivax
On July 26 2019 06:47 Alakaslam wrote: What a short read.
He suspected Pandain and HF mostly. If he is killed this early, I tend to think he was on the right track.
See subsequent vote in vote thread. If folks want a counter wagon, it should be me I think so that my statements can warrant a reread when I am gone.
Because then y’all will realize: 1. I was town, and knew Rayn was too 2. That I was playing pretty carefully and pretty attentively 3. That though I couldn’t explain why, I was right on Rayn and am semi- likely to be right on other reads by EOD D2.
If Hf vs Pandain well idk I somehow feel they aren’t BOTH scum.
It's clear if you look at both these posts as one, that Slam is clearly giving weight to Vivax's filter because of hte night kill. A Vivax kill is pretty weird as he wasn't posting so was definitely a misslynchable target. It's reasonable to think that Vivax was killed due to being correct. And also reasonable for Slam to doubt Vivax' being correct on BOTH.
To me this makes Slam more town. I don't see the mistaken scumclaim.
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On July 26 2019 08:53 NoSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2019 08:49 Holyflare wrote: Well whoever the mason is I don't think they should really claim because at least mafia can shoot into that shit show. btw if you actually think I am scum, I have figured out who the mason is and had it figured out yesterday almost immediately after the flip. You can take me at my word for this, if I were scum the other mason would be dead right now. Anyway I agree with the mason not needing to claim, because my opinion is that scum this game are too stupid to see it and we don't need to help them out. -wherebugsgo Or you could have left the mason you bluehunted alive to make this point!
I will kill meap, pandain, or the hydra today unless theres something to sheep
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tube who are you killing today I'll probably follow you
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On July 26 2019 09:34 Fecalfeast wrote: tube who are you killing today I'll probably follow you
1. NoSmurfHere 2. Pandain?????
I don't think Meap is scum. I didn't mind anything he wrote. Like his thing on HF was true. It doesn't make HF scum though cause well HF messes up details pretty often as town. And as HF correctly pointed it, it didn't really matter (this concerns the timeline of his Palmar/Pandain confusion). Also, I'm super distrusting of Eywa- right now, and she went hogwild on meap is scum after his first and only post in the game. So, hahaha as terrible as it seems, meap gets town points for that.
I want to flesh out why everyone (including myself) thinks Ewya- is town. For me it was just her zeal. But I have pretty much disagreed on everything she has said except one thing that was minor and I can't remember it.
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I'll kill hydra and I'd kill eywa too I have bad vibes from them
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pandain can die but I have no original thoughts on him. His weak shade on rayn now that rayn flipped town is b,eh but that's not terrible
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also if I'm in your pocket and you're you're doing a powerscum just be careful I'm spiky like a bunch of keys in tight jeans
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Pandain for me is borderline policy.
The only time I remember playing or reading a game he was in, he was town but I was certain he was scum. This game is completely forgettable. So, I guess that could be scum points.
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On July 26 2019 09:57 Tubesock wrote: Pandain for me is borderline policy.
The only time I remember playing or reading a game he was in, he was town but I was certain he was scum. This game is completely forgettable. So, I guess that could be scum points.
HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT A GAME With CHEZINU IS FORGETTABLE!!!!! AND COMPLETELY FOR THAT MATTER!!!
#Vote Tubesock
Hashtag don't forget this game.
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On July 26 2019 10:45 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2019 09:57 Tubesock wrote: Pandain for me is borderline policy.
The only time I remember playing or reading a game he was in, he was town but I was certain he was scum. This game is completely forgettable. So, I guess that could be scum points. HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT A GAME With CHEZINU IS FORGETTABLE!!!!! AND COMPLETELY FOR THAT MATTER!!! #Vote TubesockHashtag don't forget this game.
to be fair I meant Pandain is forgettable this game. English is hard.
But thank you for noticing me.
What are your brown eyes seeing?
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Okok! holy crap I slept like a stone right through alarm :/!!
I'm catch up now but I'm slow reader !
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Chez. Well I could vote Chez off the island. I don’t think he’s readable.
I'm still playing Amazon survivor!!! It's not over yet!!!
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On July 25 2019 07:55 NoSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2019 02:49 Alakaslam wrote: From the look of things we lose Rayn.
Not good. He is a strong player.
Rayn when you return please just make cases in last bit don’t waste too much time on defense. There comes a point where people won’t change their minds, period.
Anyway, so people can make associations later:
My reason for believing Rayn to be town are mostly on meta. The case against him is basically that he is anti town because he is able to get angry. And not understand sarcasm. Basically.
Bad case. My reasons for scumreading the smurf is trying to shut me down, and a few other things but those are wifom. Not enough to vote on.
I vote him to save Rayn. I want to hear what others think of this post as it sticks out quite a lot especially in light of rayn’s flip. The good news is that tomorrow morning we have a confirmed townie, so if you are rayn’s partner please do not claim until then. I also want to hear from you, HF. For everyone else my assignment to you is to tell me your read of HF at this very moment. Ok I don't like this post from slam at all. The whole part about "making associates later" reeks like TMI and this post is basically slam's way of distancing himself from the lynch so that he's on the right side of the vote that he knows will flip town. Aside from that, he literally admits his reasons for voting the hydra are terrible but he's saving rayn, I view this as scummy since it's hard for me to believe someone organically comes up with a townread so strong on D1 that they're willing to vote for someone else they don't think is scum in order to save them.
On July 25 2019 08:51 Tubesock wrote: I townreading FF and Alakaslam. I also townread Coagulation but it's softer.
Yeah Bugs I’ll scumread you for shutting down a player for posting 25 times in a row when it’s a very slow game. It wasn’t like anyone else was around, and You should know that Slam isn’t exactly a high post count player, so shutting him down hurts town. I doubt it took you anymore time to read those 25 posts than it would have if it was all in one.
I think the shade towards FF and Meap post flip are scummy.
Alright so I'm still leaning scum on FF, I think that the hydra makes a decent point here
I think the TMI argument on slam is actually very strong, and I have some meta reasons as well that I can go over if anyone cares to but I'm really interested as to where you're getting this townread from, could you elaborate more on that?
I disagree with the hydra scum read but coag is also a soft townread for me.
On July 25 2019 12:24 Vivax wrote: Looks like I forgot to unvote NSH and vote anything else yesterday really..
I think we can all agree that after that mislynch I don't really have to feel arsed to play. He was rather obvious town.
My advice is that you look into HF and pandain.
Was really hoping from more than this from you vivax, picking lurkers as your suspects is weaksauce.
On July 25 2019 17:30 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2019 08:51 Tubesock wrote: I townreading FF and Alakaslam. I also townread Coagulation but it's softer.
Yeah Bugs I’ll scumread you for shutting down a player for posting 25 times in a row when it’s a very slow game. It wasn’t like anyone else was around, and You should know that Slam isn’t exactly a high post count player, so shutting him down hurts town. I doubt it took you anymore time to read those 25 posts than it would have if it was all in one.
I think the shade towards FF and Meap post flip are scummy.
This guy is town most likely. Going so hard against the consensus. Must be thinking aboit the game.
Koshi and Tube are definitely my strongest townreads.
On July 26 2019 06:47 Alakaslam wrote: What a short read.
He suspected Pandain and HF mostly. If he is killed this early, I tend to think he was on the right track.
See subsequent vote in vote thread. If folks want a counter wagon, it should be me I think so that my statements can warrant a reread when I am gone.
Because then y’all will realize: 1. I was town, and knew Rayn was too 2. That I was playing pretty carefully and pretty attentively 3. That though I couldn’t explain why, I was right on Rayn and am semi- likely to be right on other reads by EOD D2.
If Hf vs Pandain well idk I somehow feel they aren’t BOTH scum. I think what I've highlighted red here sums up parts of my meta read on slam. Based on my memory, slam is absolutely not playing his usual self and he is aware of it and has tried to emulate that at times but it feels artificial. He is much too serious and, in his own words, careful compared to what town slam does.
On July 26 2019 07:09 Koshi wrote: 0% chance slam is mafia. If you think so you shoot up in my mafia list so high kites would be jealous.
On July 26 2019 07:10 Koshi wrote: I'll sheep slam even though I dont think Pandain is the best kill. But I dont know who is.
Ok you and Tube agreeing on this is enough to give me pause but I really would like to know what you think of some of the points I've brought up earlier in this post. I'm not going to just sheep either of you without some decent reasoning behind your thought process.
Alright I'm caught up and this is where I'm at. I think the TMI evidence, along with the meta/gut read I've got on slam is the strongest I've got right now. Going to go ahead and vote for him. FF is probably my second strongest read with a mix of Chez/Pandain/the dude who replaced in to round things out.
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On July 26 2019 09:57 Tubesock wrote: Pandain for me is borderline policy.
The only time I remember playing or reading a game he was in, he was town but I was certain he was scum. This game is completely forgettable. So, I guess that could be scum points. I could be on board with this if something changes my slam read. I think Pandain was scum in the game back in February and I think he lurked the shit out of that one too.
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On July 26 2019 09:47 Fecalfeast wrote: also if I'm in your pocket and you're you're doing a powerscum just be careful I'm spiky like a bunch of keys in tight jeans
This is a scumclaim
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-wherebugsgo
Like seriously, that post alone just vaulted FF into top 2 scum for me, like ignore Coag ignore Chezinu, it’s slam or FF today. I am not taking any other choices.
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