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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 30 2019 00:47 GMT
#1485
On July 30 2019 09:38 Eywa- wrote:
Soo... Anyone seeing this FF and MZ scum theater unfolding?

Jesus christ dude get off my nuts and scumhunt.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 31 2019 22:58 GMT
#1869
are you fucking serious? koshi fucking escaped lynch twice in row

like how are we in lylo with him alive

FF flipping town is gonna make me have to rethink some stuff now. Part of me is tempted just to stick it out and roll with koshi again but the fact that I'm still alive and I am clearly missing a member of the scum team means I'm gonna need to do some serious rereading.

Fuck man, I thought we had this shit on lock.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
August 01 2019 01:29 GMT
#1870
Man I don't fucking know, Branch easily looks the worst from the FF lynch but I don't wanna just let koshi off the hook. I'm gonna go ahead and accept the omgus accusations and say eywa is the 3rd scum bc of the FF lynch as well.

I'll post more tomorrow morning, I finally have a night flight so I should be around for some of irl day tomorrow. The martyring and giving up from so many players just makes things so unfun to play.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
August 01 2019 15:46 GMT
#1918
On July 31 2019 04:47 Branch.AUT wrote:
Since we're consolidating Im putting my vote on koshi. Eywa and HF too suspicious to vote with. Hydra youre on the wrong track yet again


On July 31 2019 04:50 Branch.AUT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2019 04:43 Alakaslam wrote:
On July 31 2019 04:42 Branch.AUT wrote:
On July 31 2019 04:30 NoSmurfHere wrote:
On July 31 2019 04:22 Holyflare wrote:
There's been a fuck tonne of words the past few pages but no compelling sentences on why we should lynch anyone's favourite target over anyone else.

Why?


That’s literally been the theme of this game.

I’m tired of explaining why we want to kill Koshi. You’re not reading so I see no reason why we need to explain things again. You weren’t reading when I was telling you why I think Koshi was a better kill than Chezinu so you getting worked up now is starting to rub me the wrong way

On July 31 2019 03:40 Branch.AUT wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:38 NoSmurfHere wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can the people on me at least mention what they'll do when i flip town. Please?
Someone determined that it's not mylo right


Why do you keep asking this instead of doing something actually useful?

You’ve been asking for thread sentiment the whole game (like how you asked how people are reading branch) instead of actually forming your own read or opinions and it’s scummy af

It’s also always somehow really meek when at least some of your pushback when the game was less clear, especially when pushing back against people who were clearly going to die (like rayn) had a much different tone

-wherebugsgo

Holyflare has been doing the same exact thing with me. You never once called him scum. How come?


If you meant this, branch, then I think you aren’t reading properly. I indeed have thought HF was scum at various points in this game and honestly even now his behavior is strange enough that he might be scum here.

However he simply is not the best lynch. There are enough reasons to call him town and not enough to call FF/Koshi town that it makes no sense to discuss him now, 1 hour before lynch, when we are not going to lynch him.

It bothers me that we have 30 minutes to go to deadline and you are trying to distract from the lynch at hand. Why is it important to discuss, at this very moment, my opinion on HF? Are we killing HF? No? Then why??

And this is coming from someone who called us out on supposed whataboutism earlier in the game. You must be scum here.

-wherebugsgo

You've called me scum at every point in this game, no matter what I did, so I no longer care about your opinion. Green flip, best defense.

If the Koshi lynch was as certain as you want it to be, we wouldn't be havin this conversation. Your reasons for voting Koshi are weak as garbage. And the only reason Koshi has so many Votes, is because your Hydra is supposedly confirmed town.

So you think it is Eywa, who and who?

Just pushed Eywa to get reaction. Only thing I got was Koshi and FF flopping onto it. Don't like the filter. If Scum then with HF

I hate these posts. Branch finally comes out with a real serious push and then backs off when he realizes he's not getting traction. He provides not one but two reasons for his change of heart: He was either consolidating or "pushing for a reaction" But wait! today he says he was scumreading Eywa for real yesterday:
On August 01 2019 17:28 Branch.AUT wrote:
I thought the hydra was scum after bugs made a strange comment I tunneled into but their qt gave them a lot of towncred. To me, hydra town.

Pandain have to filter again, but really like his early days last time I read him. Right now uncertain of him.

Eywa I've called scum all day yesterday. People felt her town because town meta. But very easy to fake meta. Still think that their play is scummy.


So was it a real scumread or not? Why do you never stand with a read. It feels as if every one of your reads is carefully constructed to avoid responsibility for whatever position you're taking.

On August 01 2019 17:28 Branch.AUT wrote:
I thought the hydra was scum after bugs made a strange comment I tunneled into but their qt gave them a lot of towncred. To me, hydra town.

Pandain have to filter again, but really like his early days last time I read him. Right now uncertain of him.

Eywa I've called scum all day yesterday. People felt her town because town meta. But very easy to fake meta. Still think that their play is scummy.



On August 01 2019 20:41 Branch.AUT wrote:
Voting Everysince


On August 01 2019 20:51 Branch.AUT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2019 19:56 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Branch which combinations of players do you think couldn't be mafia together?

I'm hesitant to call out three people in connection. It is no how I approach this game.
I'll try anyway because youve asked me too

My strongest scumreads are MZ/Pandain. Both sheeped Slam during lynches, except when Slam changed his vote close to deadline. Both post constructive just enough to not be supiciously inactive, but way too little to actually catch mafia.

Eywa/ES im less sure of, Eywa because HF went all out defending them on meta reason. ES mostly posts prior to deadline and willingly gives her vote to anyone interacting, except when I pushed to lynch Eywa. Could see ES+Eywa together mafia.

I consider any combination of these four possible.


This dude is literally just throwing names at a wall to see which one sticks. He mentions his is "uncertain leaning scum" on Eversince prior to his vote and then proceeds to call Pandain his strongest scum read... who he was uncertain of 4 hours prior. What changed in between those? The hydra made this post:

On August 01 2019 19:34 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2019 19:19 Branch.AUT wrote:
Thats a possibility, but does that not fit their entire play?

Care to comment on my assessment of MZ/Pandain/ES, Jock?


MZ and pandain are both the same in this game.

There's posts they have made that are scummy, but also some posts that seem good. Both have just enough activity not to be suspicious (not the case with eversince).

I didn't actually think MZ's case on you was full of holes. That doesn't make him more or less likely to be town though imo. I think he has looked like he's hiding in plain sight the whole time.

The case he made on you was contributing new stuff to the thread. The problem I have with it isn't that it was full of holes, but that you were an easy target.

I'm going to filter MZ now, then ES for more detailed analysis.

-J


So now that the hydra is questioning Pandain and myself, we become Branch's strongest scumreads. It's all a matter of convenience and ending up where the most votes are. And what ever happened to the Eywa scumread from yesterday? Gone with the wind apparently. But regardless of these points, where is Branch's vote? It's on eversince. Rather than push his "strongest scum reads."

But Hydra, Eversince, and Pandain, I need you guys to read this over and seriously think about the lynches you are pushing. Look at Branch. This dude is literally looking for the most opportune lynch to park his vote on and ride out the day. I honestly can't say I've read eversince that closely but I will not be on the same wagon as Branch at lylo.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
August 01 2019 15:51 GMT
#1919
Hydra/Jock, I'm fine if we leave Koshi for tomorrow. But you really need to reread Branch.

I don't like the post from eversince that you quoted but I could see how it could come from someone who replaced in as town. Look at who immediately jumped on the eversince lynch with you.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
August 01 2019 16:06 GMT
#1921
On August 02 2019 00:56 Branch.AUT wrote:
Just as predicted, scum going after the newbie for an easy mislynch in Lylo.

Good setup, decent executtion. Doomed to fail.

Saw this push coming on day 2. Looking forward to your scum buddies piling onto it.

lolol ok Mr.
On July 28 2019 05:31 Branch.AUT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2019 05:24 Eversince wrote:
Real first game this then?
I thought it was said earlier you just obs. Hmm..

First game on forums. Therefore no recorded meta


Funny how you were hard charging earlier but now that the chips are down you're gonna try and pull out the newbie card. Not buying it at all.

I also like how you predict my "scum buddies" to pile on you when that's exactly what you and Koshi did to eversince. Just waiting for eywa to hop on for the trifecta.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
August 01 2019 16:12 GMT
#1922
Speaking of D2, wasn't that the day you chainsaw'd koshi and lynched the cop? Because I remember that too, don't worry.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
August 01 2019 16:22 GMT
#1925
On August 02 2019 01:16 NoSmurfHere wrote:
MZ you think my reads should be the same as they were yesterday? Koshi & Branch?? Who do you think is the third mafia?

-J

Eywa. It has to be Eywa by POE. I think I overlooked a lot of stuff about them because I hate OMGUS cases but at this point I don't think it's you or Pandain and I don't see eversince as scum both because of play and because of host WIFOM. I just wished we fucking lynched Koshi yesterday because that would have answered so many more questions. I still would lynch Koshi today but I think the Branch case is just so much more blatant, especially over the last 24 hours. I'm pretty sure he's scumread everyone left in the game in an attempt to find a safe spot for his vote.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
August 01 2019 16:30 GMT
#1927
On August 02 2019 01:28 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Branch and eywa?

Probably not imo

-J

Why? Branch has been screaming about eywa being scum but never put the hammer to them when they had the chance? Like go back and read the last few pages of Branch's filter and you'll see several examples (which I quoted earlier) of what I'm talking about.

The eversince vote from branch should be a huge red flag
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
August 01 2019 16:34 GMT
#1928
On August 02 2019 01:20 Koshi wrote:
MZ can you make post that I understand? What are your 3 scumreads with 1 line of reasoning? And same for 3 townreads.

Alright Koshi I will play ball with you since it's the last day.

Scum: Branch- he was a big part in saving you D2, since then he has done nothing but look for a safe spot to park his vote. He backtracks on almost every read. After screaming about eywa being scum yesterday, he backs off and says it was just a test. He calls me and Pandain his top scumreads today and then votes Eversince. It's all about convenience.

Eywa- Has actually done nothing this game but get townies killed. Like I said in my previous post, I am hesitant to call out people who tunnel me. OMGUS is a shitty reason to build a case and I also understand that my activity level over the past year has made me seem scummy, that said with FF flipping town and with my townreads on pandain and eversince I'm left with no other options. POE.

You: You've martyred, you've not scum hunted, your entire filter is oneliners. If you are somehow town you just played one of the worst town games I've ever seen. You've escaped lynch twice due to what appears to be scum team shenanigans at EOD (this was painfully obvious D2). More recently, you're part of the eversince push which I think is terrible.

Town: Hydra- I shouldn't have to explain much about the Hydra at this point, it's all in my filter. If they're scum they deserve the win

Pandain- I thought he might be scum D2 but his D3 play was decent and a lot of his reads are similar to mine.

Eversince- You're not wrong that he (she?) has not made much of an impact on the game but that's something I'd expect out of a townie who replaced in (and it stands in sharp contrast to Branch). Plus I'm already scumreading Branch and I don't think host would replace two scum players, that would be horrifically unfair to the town.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
August 01 2019 16:59 GMT
#1932
Ohh a bus! I'm excited to see this one eywa.

People really need to get their votes off eversince. The last thing we want is to split in this case.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
August 01 2019 17:16 GMT
#1936
On August 02 2019 02:00 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2019 01:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ohh a bus! I'm excited to see this one eywa.

People really need to get their votes off eversince. The last thing we want is to split in this case.

The last thing we want is to split...

*votes elsewhere*

Even voting for the lock town is better than voting off wagon

Wrong but you're scum so I don't care
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
August 01 2019 17:17 GMT
#1937
On August 02 2019 02:14 Koshi wrote:
Ahhhhhhhh I dont think Branch is mafia. I also didnt think coag was mafia......

Not expecting you to vote for your scumbuddy anyway
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
August 01 2019 17:19 GMT
#1941
Eywa playing exactly like Branch gives me a warm fuzzy about my POE read.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
August 01 2019 17:38 GMT
#1947
On August 02 2019 02:20 Koshi wrote:
For shits and giggles.

MZ and Eywa, are you willing to both vote each other?

While I'm sure you would love that since it gives you an easy mislynch on me, I would definitely vote eywa over eversince.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
August 01 2019 17:40 GMT
#1948
On August 02 2019 02:21 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Koshi we can switch to MZ if you want.

-J

Jock I need you to reread Branch.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
August 01 2019 17:48 GMT
#1953
Oh here comes the counter push from Koshi and Eywa. Right on cue when I push Branch. You're getting played Jock.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
August 01 2019 18:00 GMT
#1962
On August 02 2019 02:55 Koshi wrote:
Whybthe fuck would both eywa and I move to mz and not stick on eversince for example????? No lets go to the active townie present in the thread......

Because eversince was a trash push and you know it. people are already getting off it the second it was called out. Your gut read does not constitute a good case.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
August 01 2019 18:04 GMT
#1966
On August 02 2019 02:55 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2019 02:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Oh here comes the counter push from Koshi and Eywa. Right on cue when I push Branch. You're getting played Jock.


If koshi and branch were mafia why didn't they kill us last night?
They leave alive the confirmed town that's been scumreading them and pushing them when they have 2 kills??
If eywa and branch were mafia together why was branch voting for, and pushing, eywa for pretty much the whole of yesterday?
None of that makes any sense at all.

It makes much more sense if you left us alive because you wanted us to push koshi and branch today.

-J

The same is true for me. If you or I show up dead today Branch/Koshi are the auto today.

What doesn't make sense is the eversince push from a town PoV, quickly followed up with the shift onto me once I point out how bad it is and refocus things on Branch. People reaching for scum reads on eversince reeks of scum trying not to vote for their basically outed teammates.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
August 01 2019 18:11 GMT
#1969
On August 02 2019 03:03 Koshi wrote:
Eversince is just in my poe

This is a dumb fucking PoE dude

And where has this fight and effort been all game? Like look at your behavior from my point of view. I see you fucking off the whole game, martyring and complaining, and now all of a sudden at the 11th hour you're mr tryhard. It feels like scum who realizes they can't rely on last minute vote switches to skate by anymore.
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