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I agree with Koshi on slam at least.
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I'm currently thinking both the slam townreads and the rayn scumreads are wacky.
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When the case against the hydra is mostly based off an innate distrust for hydras and rayn's drunk posting that tells me all I need to know.
Unfortunately I'll mostly be phone posting until late today.
I had rayn as town for the HF stuff in the beginning but I may need to reevaluate based off the last 12 hours.
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On July 24 2019 12:59 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2019 07:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 24 2019 03:38 Holyflare wrote:
Also this thread is the most confusing fucking thing to read, it's just questions answered with dead ends and cryptic sentences and very boring. I was not impressed by HF's entry to the thread at all and I was glad to see rayn jumped on that. However I was going to wait and see what HF's next posts would be... and these haven't been much better. For instance this one here; thread is pretty readable at the moment aside from rayn and eywa getting in a pissing match, and HF's post does nothing but muddy the waters. The thing I hate most about posts like this is that it doesn't even seek to remedy the problems it points out, it simply adds more chaff to the thread which runs counter to a good town environment. On July 24 2019 03:43 Holyflare wrote:On July 23 2019 19:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well w/e gonna write on phone.
I found you weird vecause the post on pandain didnt sit well with me, neither did the vote on coag after. I thought you had read at öeast some posts when you started posting and if you believed someone actually died you didnt find me weird since i sure would have an opening different than what it was (if there indeed was a nk). Obvs an expllanation would be that you didnt read any posts, which is why i wanted a confirmation on why you actually voted for coag (basically you could give out you in fact rwad posts before you started oosting). Thats why i originally asked about your vote and nothing more. I don't think there is anything to be said about Tubesock and i also think HF makes a fair point on coag. On July 23 2019 19:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 23 2019 16:43 Holyflare wrote:
Wut why is there a night 0? On July 23 2019 16:50 Holyflare wrote:
I can't even find anything about a n0 in the op what is going on? On July 23 2019 16:50 Holyflare wrote:
Palmar wasn't even in the game... Right... Carry on :D On July 23 2019 16:51 Holyflare wrote:
Personally I blame Pandain for looking similar to Palmar. I hope you'll take responsibility for this. Now this is fine i think. Holyflare doesn't read the OP, sees Pandain dying during N0 (because of the green part, i can't even imagine what that would otherwise mean), then realises "shit it's not pandain it's palmar, lol palmar is not even in the game".Fine, this however doesn't make any sense at all: On July 23 2019 18:36 Holyflare wrote:I was honestly gonna go into a rant about how shit this game was for having a n0 and how I was confirmed town because I'd never shoot palmar and then I'd already formulated a list of suspects of coag, mz, chez, bugs, possibly you but here we are. I'm still confirmed town though  So AFTER Holyflare realises it's not in fact pandain but palmar who "died" he forms a list of possible candidates. I don't think this makes any sense because either at this point he thinks it was not palmar but pandain or he has already figured out the whole nk doesnt even make any sense. Can you explain to me how you can make all the red statements together? How can you dislike me for the posts on pandain/palmar and the vote on coag but then say my posts on pandain look fine in your case on me and afterwards say that voting coag is good? Just so you know, I think you're mafia still. I have no idea why HF put the newer post first but it seems like another attempt at muddying the waters as it obfuscates the point rayn was making and tries to present a contradiction that doesn't exist if you read the posts in the order rayn posted them. And then HF ends things off by voting for rayn based on a contradiction that he essentially invented. ##Vote: HolyFlare Maybe it's hard to read but it really doesn't matter what order I put them in in this post because I make a literal timeline that explains it perfectly in my post here: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/549650-cupids-arrow-mafia?page=12#232Which you've completely ignored?
This timeline actually confuses me more than anything but given rayn's outburst at the hydra I'm starting to doubt myself on a couple reads anyway so I'll back off for now.
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Tubesock, people wanna kill the hydra and I don't buy it, you're one of the few people critically thinking this game and you've scumread them. Spell it out for me like I'm stupid.
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On July 24 2019 14:52 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2019 02:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ah heck. Rayn townreading me after I specifically said I often scumread people who townread me early makes me think he's probably town but mafia rayn isn't usually trying to skate by anyway so it makes me more confused than anything Lol
Reading this post, Fefes post seems rather scummy. Too bad slam just lol'd at it.
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Day One Vote Count
Raynpelikoneet (4): Eywa, Holyflare, Koshi, Pandain
NoSmurfHere (3): Tubesock, FecalFeast, Raynpelikoneet, Alakaslam
Meapak_Ziphh (2): Eywa, FecalFeast, Coagulation
Coagulation (1): Holyflare, Vivax
Holyflare (0): Raynpelikoneet, Meapak_Ziphh
Not Voting (4): NoSmurfHere, Chezinu, Revelator, Meapak_Ziphh
Raynpelikoneet is currently set to be lynched.
Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is Wednesday, Jul 24 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
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On July 24 2019 21:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2019 12:59 Holyflare wrote:On July 24 2019 07:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 24 2019 03:38 Holyflare wrote:
Also this thread is the most confusing fucking thing to read, it's just questions answered with dead ends and cryptic sentences and very boring. I was not impressed by HF's entry to the thread at all and I was glad to see rayn jumped on that. However I was going to wait and see what HF's next posts would be... and these haven't been much better. For instance this one here; thread is pretty readable at the moment aside from rayn and eywa getting in a pissing match, and HF's post does nothing but muddy the waters. The thing I hate most about posts like this is that it doesn't even seek to remedy the problems it points out, it simply adds more chaff to the thread which runs counter to a good town environment. On July 24 2019 03:43 Holyflare wrote:On July 23 2019 19:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well w/e gonna write on phone.
I found you weird vecause the post on pandain didnt sit well with me, neither did the vote on coag after. I thought you had read at öeast some posts when you started posting and if you believed someone actually died you didnt find me weird since i sure would have an opening different than what it was (if there indeed was a nk). Obvs an expllanation would be that you didnt read any posts, which is why i wanted a confirmation on why you actually voted for coag (basically you could give out you in fact rwad posts before you started oosting). Thats why i originally asked about your vote and nothing more. I don't think there is anything to be said about Tubesock and i also think HF makes a fair point on coag. On July 23 2019 19:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 23 2019 16:43 Holyflare wrote:
Wut why is there a night 0? On July 23 2019 16:50 Holyflare wrote:
I can't even find anything about a n0 in the op what is going on? On July 23 2019 16:50 Holyflare wrote:
Palmar wasn't even in the game... Right... Carry on :D On July 23 2019 16:51 Holyflare wrote:
Personally I blame Pandain for looking similar to Palmar. I hope you'll take responsibility for this. Now this is fine i think. Holyflare doesn't read the OP, sees Pandain dying during N0 (because of the green part, i can't even imagine what that would otherwise mean), then realises "shit it's not pandain it's palmar, lol palmar is not even in the game".Fine, this however doesn't make any sense at all: On July 23 2019 18:36 Holyflare wrote:I was honestly gonna go into a rant about how shit this game was for having a n0 and how I was confirmed town because I'd never shoot palmar and then I'd already formulated a list of suspects of coag, mz, chez, bugs, possibly you but here we are. I'm still confirmed town though So AFTER Holyflare realises it's not in fact pandain but palmar who "died" he forms a list of possible candidates. I don't think this makes any sense because either at this point he thinks it was not palmar but pandain or he has already figured out the whole nk doesnt even make any sense. Can you explain to me how you can make all the red statements together? How can you dislike me for the posts on pandain/palmar and the vote on coag but then say my posts on pandain look fine in your case on me and afterwards say that voting coag is good? Just so you know, I think you're mafia still. I have no idea why HF put the newer post first but it seems like another attempt at muddying the waters as it obfuscates the point rayn was making and tries to present a contradiction that doesn't exist if you read the posts in the order rayn posted them. And then HF ends things off by voting for rayn based on a contradiction that he essentially invented. ##Vote: HolyFlare Maybe it's hard to read but it really doesn't matter what order I put them in in this post because I make a literal timeline that explains it perfectly in my post here: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/549650-cupids-arrow-mafia?page=12#232Which you've completely ignored? This timeline actually confuses me more than anything but given rayn's outburst at the hydra I'm starting to doubt myself on a couple reads anyway so I'll back off for now.
This is probably the right time to bus your scum buddy.
I do love me some scum theatre.
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Eywa-
Will you call someone bad for being town if you Lynch them?
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On July 24 2019 23:21 Alakaslam wrote:
Eywa-
Will you call someone bad for being town if you Lynch them?
What?
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On July 24 2019 23:22 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2019 23:21 Alakaslam wrote:
Eywa-
Will you call someone bad for being town if you Lynch them? What?
I didn’t mistype.
If you led a lynch on someone, brought it home, got everyone on your side, the subject railed and fought the whole way, and they were town-
Do you write it off as “well they played so bad they looked like scum”
Or is there room for question? For circumstances outside the obvious having an affect on behavior and word choice?
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In other words, are you the type who cannot fathom the idea that they could be in error?
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Also I am addressing you more directly as you’ve already made the change like overnight lol. I think I can come to an understanding and have a productive discussion (and you May or May not win a vote)
Fun fact: I was born in May, so my phone capitalizes it lol.
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I mean, I can be in error... But in this case I'm not.
I don't do reactions pre-flip.
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On July 24 2019 23:44 Eywa- wrote:
I mean, I can be in error... But in this case I'm not.
I don't do reactions pre-flip.
I’m not expecting a pre-flip reaction.
There is a difference between arrogance (can’t begin to understand) confidence (can try to understand) and unteachable (can totally understand but can’t work with)
So are you open to talking Rayn? I think he is just foreign (and then drunk) and strongly hold he is town.
Why am I wrong? Do you need more from me to know how I am wrong?
I like Rayn’s train of thought, and was on board with it and don’t see it as scum indicative.
Thanks either way
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At the very least, I thank you for being so town since I was on last. The implied read is intentional.
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On July 24 2019 02:38 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Immediate gut reactions:
Don't like koshi's first post. No redeeming features of that one.
Don't like the way hf misunderstands the day post and then uses his own misunderstanding as evidence that he is town. Although rayn is right that it would be convoluted for mafia hf to do that, I wouldn't put convoluted out of hf's range.
Vivax - nothingburger
Coagulation - Scumclaims suck dude.
FF - dunno
Eywa - Very quick to scumread rayn but I wouldn't say that's impossible for town eywa.
rayn - waiting to see on this one.
Leaving now, won't be back until later tonight. Might have a chance to post something more fleshed out then.
Despite what I said about rayn wanting to lynch us, I think in a game this size lynching a lurker would be a good move.
J
You type it like scumreading rayn is a scummy thing to do while not townreading him.
Scummy.
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On July 24 2019 23:58 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2019 02:38 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Immediate gut reactions:
Don't like koshi's first post. No redeeming features of that one.
Don't like the way hf misunderstands the day post and then uses his own misunderstanding as evidence that he is town. Although rayn is right that it would be convoluted for mafia hf to do that, I wouldn't put convoluted out of hf's range.
Vivax - nothingburger
Coagulation - Scumclaims suck dude.
FF - dunno
Eywa - Very quick to scumread rayn but I wouldn't say that's impossible for town eywa.
rayn - waiting to see on this one.
Leaving now, won't be back until later tonight. Might have a chance to post something more fleshed out then.
Despite what I said about rayn wanting to lynch us, I think in a game this size lynching a lurker would be a good move.
J You type it like scumreading rayn is a scummy thing to do while not townreading him. Scummy.
Huh, I actually didn’t notice that before.
You make me very comfortable with my vote but I think we should hear Eywa- out. Maybe a fresh look at scum!rayn can flesh him out easier than old blood eyes (or even the blindness of CHUPAZI)
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And yes, I am scummy as hell but screw it I am low value too often in lylo town. Expendable.
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On July 24 2019 23:56 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2019 23:44 Eywa- wrote:
I mean, I can be in error... But in this case I'm not.
I don't do reactions pre-flip. I’m not expecting a pre-flip reaction. There is a difference between arrogance (can’t begin to understand) confidence (can try to understand) and unteachable (can totally understand but can’t work with) So are you open to talking Rayn? I think he is just foreign (and then drunk) and strongly hold he is town. Why am I wrong? Do you need more from me to know how I am wrong? I like Rayn’s train of thought, and was on board with it and don’t see it as scum indicative. Thanks either way
I agree with all of your points and none of those make him scum. I think Rayn started the game very opportunistically, then transitioned to a lot more of a defensive game. Yes, some of that is reaction to pressure being applied to him, but this is his scum game, I'm very confident.
Also, if I'm drinking as town, I'm more likely to rant (incoherently) about people not voting for my target than I am to just come in to say "fuck you" repeatedly in as many posts as possible.
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