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On August 05 2019 03:30 Eversince wrote: Of course mafia had to bus yesterday.. Anyone not consolidating would have just been obvious outing themselves. I don't see how you think m!ES spew Eywa to confirm town status either. Where did that happen??
The scene: day 4 of this horrid game, aka LYLO. It is four (4) town vs three (3) scum.
the consolidation target is eversince. A single incorrect townie results in a loss.
In this make-believe fantasy world, eversince is town.
Eversince takes three, then four votes, but poor Meapak_Ziphh didn’t get the memo and failed to consolidate on the incorrect townie lynch.
On August 02 2019 01:59 Grackaroni wrote: Day Four Vote Count
Eversince (3): NoSmurfHere, Koshi, Branch.AUT, Eywa Koshi (1): Pandain Branch.AUT (1): Meapak_Ziphh
Not Voting (1): Eversince
Eversince is currently set to be lynched.
Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is Friday, Aug 02 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
Eywa, whom Eversince has townread for “aforementioned reasons”, leads a vote switch to the non-consolidating scum Meapak_Ziphh. Pandain and eversince are passive observers.
On August 02 2019 23:12 Grackaroni wrote: Day Four Vote Count
Meapak_Ziphh (4): Eywa, NoSmurfHere, Koshi, Branch.AUT Koshi (1): Pandain Branch.AUT (1): Meapak_Ziphh Eversince (0): NoSmurfHere, Koshi, Branch.AUT, Eywa
Not Voting (1): Eversince
Meapak_Ziphh is currently set to be lynched.
Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is Friday, Aug 02 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
Non-consolidators: three players. Pandain, Eversince, Meapak_Ziphh.
Meapak was scum.
Yet, how could this be? If Eversince were town, why wouldn’t the scummy scummy non-consolidating Meapak_Ziphh just kill Eversince?
Must’ve had a death wish, no?
-wherebugsgo
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On August 05 2019 03:35 Eversince wrote: Literally the only reason you are still alive Jock is
a) t!NSH is lynching into town and mafia are confident he will do it again (he is) b) NSH is mafia.
Those are the only reasons why you are still alive.
Yeah cause we lynched a townie yesterday LOL
-wherebugsgo
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On August 05 2019 03:41 Eversince wrote: Why the **** does mafia leave you alive here and shoot Branch (who has half the remaining players '?') BUT NO! They shoot Branch and leave universal townread by basically EVERYONE NSH alive? Makes total sense (/sarcasm) The fact you are piling manure on me for not making sense when you are saying this is just so stupid. Literally mafia has no reason to leave you alive unless you are going to be more of a benefit than a liability. Period. You refusing to see this fact is just .... er... bad.
Right.
Go ahead and vote us, dear. It’ll help Koshi and eywa come to their senses.
I suppose Pandain is our partner then, right? Lololol
You really both fucked this up hard. Pandain called Koshi lock town and you called Eywa lock town. Based on the evidence they’re both town. How salty are you right now LOL
-wherebugsgo
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On August 05 2019 03:41 Eversince wrote: Why the **** does mafia leave you alive here and shoot Branch (who has half the remaining players '?') BUT NO! They shoot Branch and leave universal townread by basically EVERYONE NSH alive? Makes total sense (/sarcasm) The fact you are piling manure on me for not making sense when you are saying this is just so stupid. Literally mafia has no reason to leave you alive unless you are going to be more of a benefit than a liability. Period. You refusing to see this fact is just .... er... bad.
I literally just explained it to you and you ignored every word i said.
It was probably so you and pandain can do what you're doing right now. It isn't convincing though.
-J
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Eversince. Let's get serious.
In the scenario you mentioned where we are being kept alive by mafia because of who we are pushing, who is mafia in this case?
It can't be koshi because we were scum reading him when we were kept alive last time. That means scum is 100% eywa and pandain.
You already said you don't think we're mafia, so you are naming eywa and pandain as the scum team, no??
-J
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On August 05 2019 03:43 Eversince wrote: #2243
Or.... MZ can't be arsed to play mafia because he hates it. Mafia use this as a easy push off MZ, lynch town next cycle, why they didn't just kill me.. Not a clue. But it's working anyway because now I'm still dying and they will still win.. So *shrugs*..
Yeah, MZ hates playing mafia so much he’d kill himself and play against his own wincon rather than just winning the game, just in order to spite his teammates for having the misfortune to roll scum with him, because he wants you to hate playing scum too.
You know, when if you were actually town he could’ve just easily killed you and the game from his perspective would have ended at the exact same fucking time and we wouldn’t be here trying to explain this fantasy world where Meapak plays against his own wincon when he sees 1-2 townies in you and Pandain not consolidating.
-wherebugsgo
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On August 05 2019 03:50 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2019 03:47 NoSmurfHere wrote:On August 05 2019 03:43 Eversince wrote: #2243
Or.... MZ can't be arsed to play mafia because he hates it. Mafia use this as a easy push off MZ, lynch town next cycle, why they didn't just kill me.. Not a clue. But it's working anyway because now I'm still dying and they will still win.. So *shrugs*.. Yeah, MZ hates playing mafia so much he’d kill himself and play against his own wincon rather than just winning the game, just in order to spite his teammates for having the misfortune to roll scum with him, because he wants you to hate playing scum too. You know, when if you were actually town he could’ve just easily killed you and the game from his perspective would have ended at the exact same fucking time and we wouldn’t be here trying to explain this fantasy world where Meapak plays against his own wincon when he sees 1-2 townies in you and Pandain not consolidating. -wherebugsgo I was more thinking if 2/3 of the mafia team is mia lurk status they might not have been around to discuss.
Yeah, 2/3 of mafia team was AFK when four fucking players moved to kill MZ in a matter of a few hours.
Right.
The only ones who were afk were you and Pandain.
-wherebugsgo
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Literally the same four players who hammered you hammered MZ.
The 3 non-consolidators were the same the WHOLE DAY.
What you are peddling makes 0 sense.
-wherebugsgo
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On August 05 2019 03:49 Eversince wrote: Why is Koshi auto town because you were scum reading him? He didn't get lynched and on D4 you basically moved him to your town pile which meant he was never getting lynched that day. I think Eywa has been very useless outside of D1 (I made a post on this I can filter myself and pull it up if you want) Pandain just been useless all game (also same post that I made on Eywa, cept I've made post about Pandain several times because I just waffle him always..)
OK SO
On the one hand, you are asking us to change our scum reads based on the fact that we were kept alive - and at exactly the same time ignore the fact that we were kept alive the night before when KOSHI WAS OUR MAIN SCUM READ.
I don't know how you can interpret those events as us townreading koshi before the night kills. We were saying he had to be the next lynch, I didn't change my mind until we were still alive the next day. This was literally a lie.
Why would you be lying about this shit right now, who are you trying to convince with your lies?
-J
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On August 05 2019 03:59 Eversince wrote: I'm asking you to take into account that if you aren't scum, mafia has left you alive for so long for a reason. You are refusing to see it. Alls you see is 'mafia could of lynched ES and won game' Why they didn't do that, honest I can't say.. I'm not scum and it makes no sense to me either! I will say though that if you're not mafia then you are probably getting played and mafia thought you have a high likelihood of pushing through a town lynch. Why else would they let you live? You're on the block for this right now. So don't try to tell me it's lies and wrong. So yes, you need to re-evaluate your reads because your obviously being used as a puppet or you're just scum and need to die.
No I'm not refusing to see it. You are literally ignoring what i said about it and not responding.
Here it is again. Please don't ignore.
You gave two options, but there's a third option:
3) Mafia saw that I changed our reads because they left us alive last time, and left us alive thinking we would change our reads again.
And that option makes sense because here you and pandain are trying to accomplish that exact goal right on cue.
-J
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On August 05 2019 03:53 Eversince wrote: You are proving my point! town stacks on MZ, I was around I don't know what the fuck your talking about. You literally are contributing my late vote style into your scum read on me! Mafia can't sway off MZ so obvious result..
Thank you for confirming that town stacked on MZ 
If it were only two townies on MZ, then the three scum could have voted you.
There are maximum two scum in the MZ voters, because by definition there are only 3 scum, 1 of which was MZ himself. The MZ voters, as I may reiterate, are the exact same as the Eversince voters.
The first two voters on MZ were Eywa and us. Which essentially confirms us as town.
You all did us the favour of confirming branch. Which basically means only Koshi by VCA has the chance of being scum with you or Pandain.
However on paper Koshi looks much better than either of you, and Koshi didn’t waste his vote either.
Which leaves you and Pandain as scum by POE 
-wherebugsgo
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On August 05 2019 04:05 Eversince wrote: But your point is invalid because you're NOT and that is what I'm saying. I've been high on your lynch list for a while now. I'm trying to explain why it doesn't make sense because YOU'RE NOT DOING IT SO MAFIA WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG HUH?! Fucking christ. I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall!
What point?
Please, spell it out.
Surely if you are town and you see that Pandain also wasted his vote, Pandain is confirmed scum to you?
I don’t think you are completely pants on head as town. It’s actually a compliment for me to call you scum here rather than town.
But, you want to keep your vote to do a repeat of yesterday, where your vote didn’t matter. You look like scum, act like scum, and talk like scum. That makes you scum!
-wherebugsgo
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MZ yesterday:
On August 02 2019 02:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Oh here comes the counter push from Koshi and Eywa. Right on cue when I push Branch. You're getting played Jock.
ES today:
On August 05 2019 03:59 Eversince wrote: I will say though that if you're not mafia then you are probably getting played .
-J
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On August 05 2019 04:09 Eversince wrote: You have ES high on lynch. Mafia play 'change your reads' card, not expecting you actually will because of reasons you've plastered all over thread, I die and mafia wins. You got gamed. GG. FUCKING SEE IT.
Nope LOL
Your play didn’t work because we’re not that retarded. You can WIFOM is but the facts are facts.
But keep talking like we are town, as you have done for the past idk however long. We are not moving our vote from you.
So again, either kill us with your scumbuddy Pandain, or vote Pandain. Those are your only two choices. Talking this out with us is not helping you at all.
-wherebugsgo
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OH NO BUGS WE'RE GETTING PLAYED AGAIN LIKE LAST TIME
-J
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On August 05 2019 04:13 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2019 04:09 NoSmurfHere wrote:On August 05 2019 04:05 Eversince wrote: But your point is invalid because you're NOT and that is what I'm saying. I've been high on your lynch list for a while now. I'm trying to explain why it doesn't make sense because YOU'RE NOT DOING IT SO MAFIA WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG HUH?! Fucking christ. I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall! What point? Please, spell it out. Surely if you are town and you see that Pandain also wasted his vote, Pandain is confirmed scum to you? I don’t think you are completely pants on head as town. It’s actually a compliment for me to call you scum here rather than town. But, you want to keep your vote to do a repeat of yesterday, where your vote didn’t matter. You look like scum, act like scum, and talk like scum. That makes you scum! -wherebugsgo 1) You are so wrong. I already said MULTIPLE times I waffle on Pandain LITERALLY EVERY GAME. I don't hard stance on him anymore or I just tunnel him ALL game, bad for town. 2) Thanks I guess? But since I'm not mafia this game I'm kind of disappointing. Either I really suck, your just tunneling me, or you are scum lynching me. 3) I said I wasn't repeating this. Look at my filter I've explained this twice. There will not be a third time.
Right, you still waffle on the guy who literally wasted his vote just like scum did, trying to kill Koshi yesterday. Who the fuck cares who that person is, that action should auto-confirm them as scum to you.
The difference between you and me right now is that you are pretending to be town and I am not. The facts don’t change and because you don’t know how to play properly you can’t move on from the logic and resort to just yelling the same things louder and louder
-wherebugsgo
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On August 05 2019 04:17 Eversince wrote: You're saying Pandain should be confirm scum to me because he "wasted" vote on MZ? Alternative is "wasting" vote off wagon also confirming him as scum? What is this circle logic?
Oh you haven’t had enough of scum claiming yet? LOL
Yesterday was 4v3. 4 votes to hammer.
Pandain left his vote on Koshi ALL DAY.
He moved to MZ when it was clear MZ was already dead, then afked. 0 impact on lynching MZ.
For the record that equally applies to you.
And it applies to MZ too! Cause he voted branch the whole time. Literally the reason we switched to MZ in the first place.
We could have switched to Pandain instead of MZ and I bet we’d be having this exact same conversation with the names swapped, with Koshi night killed instead of branch.
-wherebugsgo
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On August 05 2019 04:37 Pandain wrote: I left my vote on koshi because I was afk not because I thought he was scum at that point
And you shared your secondary read of Branch with MZ.
Cool.
Doesn’t change the fact that your vote was wasted
Both you and ES voted in the last 4 hours before deadline when we decided on MZ more than 24 hours before deadline.
But hey, afk during LYLO, apparently if scum were smart enough to not bus they could’ve just won right! Cause you would’ve voted whomever the majority was voting 
I respect your town play a lot, so asking me to townread you here is asking too much of me. I think you’re not as stupid as to really believe that in a situation where you are trying to argue that you are town, and one other player (ES) wasted their vote, you think the best lynch is us instead of auto-scumming ES.
Like ES you’ve fallen into the trap of forgetting that this necessarily implies two scum on MZ which makes 0 sense when they could have just had MZ consolidate on ES to begin with.
So why is it that neither of you have pieced that part of the puzzle together and vote each other yet?
-wherebugsgo
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On August 05 2019 04:57 Koshi wrote: I am 100 posts behind. I'll catch up later
It’s okay I solved the game.
ES autolocked Eywa and us town.
Pandain autolocked you town. Pandain is voting us and ES positioning to vote us (really really insistent that voting last minute is totally normal in LYLO, even though she was happy to vote to kill you instead of Chezinu like halfway into the day on d2)
Everything points to you and eywa being town here and mafia just fucking up a winnable d4. If ES were town, MZ would have consolidated on her. If Pandain were town, he wouldn’t have flipped his reads, wasted his vote, and he would auto-scum ES right here instead of voting us based on some flimsy night kill BS.
Both of them refusing to vote the other implies they both think that two scum and not one bussed, and they both already eliminated one possibility for scum yet they are still talking as if there are possibilities left.
Occam’s razor baby 
-wherebugsgo
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On August 05 2019 06:17 Eversince wrote:Hmmm... Ok re-previous statement about this. Anti town HERO!! ##vote: EversinceI'm not moving this. Martyr is the new 'cool kid club' anyway! I'm tired of playing with morons who think they are deity tier. I'm say this same damn thing post game right after I flip town and we lose. I'm can work from home tonight but I'm not wasting my night on repeating myself over and over again. Good riddance. GG thanks for hosting Grack  Toodles~
I’ve waited for this moment LOL
On July 11 2019 07:33 Grackaroni wrote:
Voting rules: - Voting is done in a separate voting thread that will be posted at the start of the game. Do not PM your vote to the hosts, it will not be counted.
- Please vote in the following format: ##Vote KelsierSC. Votes must be in bold, and votes not written in the correct fashion may not be counted.
- No conditional voting.
- You may vote only for other living players in the thread. You may not vote for yourself.
- This game uses plurality voting, so whoever has the most votes at the end of the day is lynched. There is no minimum number of votes required to lynch someone. If there is a tie for most votes, whoever most recently had more votes than the other is the person who is up for the lynch.
- The person who is up for the lynch is whoever has the most votes. Bringing another player up to that number of votes doesn't put him up for the lynch; s/he has to have the most votes.
- Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
Rekt
-wherebugsgo
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