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On June 26 2019 00:55 Pandain wrote: I don't think Rayn is non-commital at all. He's hard defending Kelsier, pushed for SL, gave reads on a whole bunch of people.
And what new reads would you have if Rayn flips town? Eh, he has 4 pages of content from just him, so I mean, yea... There was a shift to hard defense and some kind of push I must have missed in reading... But that doesn't change his early posting or how it poorly reflects on him.
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On June 26 2019 00:59 Pandain wrote: Also Grack is literally the king of shenanigans. This is exactly something he would do Sure, but I still think he's good to keep around, see what develops around him.
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I could flop onto eversince
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On June 26 2019 01:42 Jockmcplop wrote: Despite the fact that he's been nearly universally read as mafia/null, I'd perfectly well accept that no-one wants to vote for Kiesler if someone could point me at a townie post of his. He's been here, so its not like he hasn't had the opportunity. I also find it a bit concerning when at least 4 people scumread a guy and no-one votes for them. It means they can't lose. Or it just means people aren't actually scum reading him for whatever reason.
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On June 26 2019 03:00 Holyflare wrote: Wait nah we kill rayn. Best chance of being mafia, none of you will kill him later and he more than deserves it for ignoring really really relevant questions.
##unvote ##vote raynpelikoneet
No regrets. Don't ignore the confirmed town. This is the wagon I've been waiting for.
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I've been waiting I've been waiting for this moment all my life
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On June 26 2019 03:35 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2019 03:34 Eversince wrote:On June 26 2019 01:32 Grackaroni wrote: My mafia team is Shapelog, Eversince, KelsierSC.
Pandain isn't mafia.
There's a chance that Rayn or Jock is mafia but they're both town reads at the moment. I think Jock can be very dangerous.
Eywa/Slam can be swapped in if Kelsier isn't mafia. Agree but why the Jock warning? He's been townie to me all game. Is there meta I should read night cycle? Also why can't Ewya/Slam be mafia with Kelsier? Probably because neither me nor Kelsier is mafia. That would be my guess.
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I'm 100% voting Rayn tomorrow and not moving.
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On June 26 2019 06:14 Eversince wrote: Wells since so many people around thoughts? Rayn has been scum and continues to be scum.
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Well, if Alakaslam flips scum. Eversince and trfel are town cleared because there was no reason to bus there.
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On June 26 2019 06:23 Holyflare wrote: There's a lot of reasons to bus. You get credit, you're never getting shot over a claimed doctor and a named townie and even then there's still like 2 people ahead of you that can just as easily look town and get shot while you rest on your confirmed town laurels as mafia. Done it plenty of times. I think either Pandain or Rayn could be scum, but I don't think they are scum together.
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On June 26 2019 06:39 Eversince wrote: Pand is fair game. I think he fits fine. Ewya's persistent push on me is annoying. Throw Kels and there's too many mafia. If Ewya explains her darn reads I could probably pass it off as town. Because sometime I'm unliked. I'm not pushing you. I'm pushing Rayn
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On June 26 2019 06:44 Eversince wrote: I hope the first time I play here in a year doesn't fall to pieces.. We just need to lynch Rayn, then it's gravy
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On June 26 2019 06:47 Eversince wrote: Still on my scum radar though. I'm town
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On June 26 2019 06:52 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2019 06:48 Eywa- wrote:On June 26 2019 06:47 Eversince wrote: Still on my scum radar though. I'm town Please still answer why you have such a mafia read on me. I want to know. I can't answer questions I don't know. You have to ask me them first. What questions are you trying to answer?
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On June 26 2019 07:37 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2019 07:28 Eversince wrote:On June 26 2019 07:23 Holyflare wrote:On June 26 2019 07:08 Jockmcplop wrote: I also wish hf would stop prodding rayn. I think he's trying to get him to go off the rails like he sometimes does early on. How can I treat someone I think is mafia seriously if they won't answer my really simple questions? That's literally the game. He would do exactly the same reaction if he was mafia or town, and blow it out of proportion even more so if mafia. I don't think my questions are even inflammatory and he's just taking it that way?? Do you not think my questions are valid? The only way I can make people lynch rayn is by pointing out bad rayn logic and forcing him to answer it so other people realise he actually is mafia. Which he's cleverly avoiding doing. HF give him half of day2 ok? I think you both just need a chance to cool off. Or go just in a lake. That would do too. Fighting between eachother is useless though. Since I know for a fact your town. Believe Rayn is town.. Just stop for that time please  !. I would absolutely be giving him space if I had the time but I am going to die so can't and he really should just answer my questions. He's stalling because I am going to die and then he doesn't have to answer them when I'm gone. So, promise me when I am dead you will ask him: A) What bullshit was going on in the thread that made him want to make a town case on Kelsier. <-- he said he said it in his filter but I can't see where B) Why was his later reason for town reading Kelsier based on him being proactive rather than reactive but nothing in the case he made earlier ever alluded to that reasoning? <--- he's already admitted that he didn't write it in his case, ask him why C) Why has he said that he needs to revisit Kelsier when Kelsier has not returned since Rayn made the town case on Kelsier, Kelsier did not vote so is afk, rayn scum reads the people pushing Kelsier? D) Why does Pandain look townie for eod pushing away from Slam after everything I've said? As long as these get answered without some hissy fit then you can let him play however he wants. C) Why I think the most likely answer to all of these is because he's scum.
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So we're lynching Rayn tomorrow right?
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On June 26 2019 23:14 Jockmcplop wrote:Hey everybody its RNG LYNCH TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because there's no point in trying to work things out. Just shout names at random and hope the game solves itself.
Well, it's not so much RNG.
I'm town Jockmcplop town Grackaroni town HF town Trfel town Eversince town Pandain town (I think that his actions at the end of day 1 to look for a better lynch is very Towny, scum either bus or hit a player at 2 votes)
That leaves a PoE of kelsier, shapelog and rayn... Might be a little too narrow, but I feel pretty strongly about the rest. Maybe Grackaroni falls into scum at mass claim... 2 confirmed townies should make this auto (or very near it)
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So, if I organized my reads better it would be:
Lock town Me HF Jock Trfel
Prob town Pandain Eversince Grackaroni
PoE Rayn Kelsier Shapelog
Though, the fact that Rayn is also okay with that PoE either means he's town or there's a deep wolf, so I would prefer to shoot Rayn first for that reason. He should reason with this because he SHOULD have the same dielema as TOWN
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Tldr I think if we lynch the poe with Rayn last AND he flips wolf, we probably lose to his scum buddy.
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