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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 19 2019 00:49 GMT
#13
/in
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 20 2019 20:31 GMT
#37
Wait, why is Rayn afk?
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 23 2019 21:29 GMT
#123
Hello
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 24 2019 01:37 GMT
#129
On June 24 2019 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Looks like i get to trust holyflare for once from the start.

Blind trust is something you can always entrust in me.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 24 2019 01:40 GMT
#130
I'm good with quicklynching Pandain or Eversince
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 24 2019 01:43 GMT
#131
Shapelog can go in my town bin for now. I'm not interested in lynching him day 1.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 25 2019 14:43 GMT
#366
I actually forgot to come back here and post.

Uhmm, Anyone buy into the idea that at least one of Pandain / Rayn is scum if not both?
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 25 2019 14:44 GMT
#367
On June 25 2019 23:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Are you a dumbass or mafia?

Why are you not voting him? From my PoV, seems like you should be.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 25 2019 14:46 GMT
#369
On June 25 2019 22:02 Holyflare wrote:
My main problem with rayn is that kelsier looks very bad in all aspects of his posts but rayn specifically went out of his way to defend kelsier while:

Calling his posts out saying this is what mafia kelsier would do

Ignoring all contradictory kelsier points

Making mafia posts from Kelsier into town posts

That would be because Rayn is scum and Kelsier is probably town right?
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 25 2019 14:46 GMT
#370
On June 25 2019 23:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How about you post some reasoning onto anything you say? You can start with why Pandain is mafia.

His role PM would be the primary reason.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 25 2019 14:49 GMT
#372
On June 25 2019 23:47 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2019 23:46 Eywa- wrote:
On June 25 2019 22:02 Holyflare wrote:
My main problem with rayn is that kelsier looks very bad in all aspects of his posts but rayn specifically went out of his way to defend kelsier while:

Calling his posts out saying this is what mafia kelsier would do

Ignoring all contradictory kelsier points

Making mafia posts from Kelsier into town posts

That would be because Rayn is scum and Kelsier is probably town right?


Or hard defending his buddy.

Good point, but we agree that Rayn is a suitable lynch for today?
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 25 2019 14:53 GMT
#377
On June 25 2019 23:51 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2019 23:49 Eywa- wrote:
On June 25 2019 23:47 Holyflare wrote:
On June 25 2019 23:46 Eywa- wrote:
On June 25 2019 22:02 Holyflare wrote:
My main problem with rayn is that kelsier looks very bad in all aspects of his posts but rayn specifically went out of his way to defend kelsier while:

Calling his posts out saying this is what mafia kelsier would do

Ignoring all contradictory kelsier points

Making mafia posts from Kelsier into town posts

That would be because Rayn is scum and Kelsier is probably town right?


Or hard defending his buddy.

Good point, but we agree that Rayn is a suitable lynch for today?


Quite likely a good lynch, yeah.

I want to know your thoughts on the game though because so far all I know is a couple of lines with no substance.

Why did you town read shapelog?

Why do you mafia read rayn?

I also town read Jockmcplop and Grackaroni. I'll try to get back to you shortly, it's not super easy to do this from the office.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 25 2019 14:54 GMT
#380
On June 25 2019 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well Eywa is mafia most likely too. This is the annoying type of scumplayer (Conversion looks the same usually) who are not considerred scum because they are "too abrasive to be mafia" when in fact nothing they say pretty much makes sense, and just get ignored. Furthermore waayyyyyyy different from last game where she actually tried to play and figure shit out (until we got onto a shitfight).

Pandain my best bet for third scum just for calling Grackaroni mafia (or a lynch) for a claim that doesnt make any sense in his mind from mafia perspective, like basically he wants to lynch a townie and paints it as a "mafia read".

Those are my reads, if i am wrong on something get slam in there, most likely everyone else is town.

OMGUS
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 25 2019 15:20 GMT
#389
On June 25 2019 23:51 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2019 23:49 Eywa- wrote:
On June 25 2019 23:47 Holyflare wrote:
On June 25 2019 23:46 Eywa- wrote:
On June 25 2019 22:02 Holyflare wrote:
My main problem with rayn is that kelsier looks very bad in all aspects of his posts but rayn specifically went out of his way to defend kelsier while:

Calling his posts out saying this is what mafia kelsier would do

Ignoring all contradictory kelsier points

Making mafia posts from Kelsier into town posts

That would be because Rayn is scum and Kelsier is probably town right?


Or hard defending his buddy.

Good point, but we agree that Rayn is a suitable lynch for today?


Quite likely a good lynch, yeah.

I want to know your thoughts on the game though because so far all I know is a couple of lines with no substance.

Why did you town read shapelog?

Why do you mafia read rayn?


Shapelog was an early read, not a huge amount behind it, but it just seemed like he was trying to get the game going early on, out of RVS and he also introduced a little sliver of meta which I wouldn't expect him to even think about throwing in as scum.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 25 2019 15:43 GMT
#394
I think Grack claiming is weird, but isn't necessarily scummy. Scum have no reason to fake claim doc because they are setting themselves up for a D2-D3 lynch... That being a player not under pressure makes it more likely that it's town.

Players who claim under pressure have a higher chance of flipping scum than players who claim when not under pressure. It's crazy how the scummiest player in the game always tends to claim before getting lynched.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 25 2019 15:46 GMT
#395
Pandain pushing that angle also seems bad, but not the reason for him being probable scum.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 25 2019 15:50 GMT
#396
On June 25 2019 23:51 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2019 23:49 Eywa- wrote:
On June 25 2019 23:47 Holyflare wrote:
On June 25 2019 23:46 Eywa- wrote:
On June 25 2019 22:02 Holyflare wrote:
My main problem with rayn is that kelsier looks very bad in all aspects of his posts but rayn specifically went out of his way to defend kelsier while:

Calling his posts out saying this is what mafia kelsier would do

Ignoring all contradictory kelsier points

Making mafia posts from Kelsier into town posts

That would be because Rayn is scum and Kelsier is probably town right?


Or hard defending his buddy.

Good point, but we agree that Rayn is a suitable lynch for today?


Quite likely a good lynch, yeah.

I want to know your thoughts on the game though because so far all I know is a couple of lines with no substance.

Why did you town read shapelog?

Why do you mafia read rayn?

For Rayn, I feel like a lot of his early posts are somewhat non-committal. He wonders why I have random town reads, gives a couple random town reads, over justifies his town read on Eversince, then agrees on my scum reads conditionally (before I even responded to his previous concerns about my town reads).

I mean, I don't have any one thing about his play I don't like, but it feels like a very cautious start from him. I also don't like the pun on the town claim.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 25 2019 15:51 GMT
#397
The hard defense of Kelsier is also really weird.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 25 2019 15:52 GMT
#398
I think we just lynch Rayn here, he's given a lot of associative reads for us to work with, so even in the event where he flips town, it's not catastrophic by any means.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 25 2019 15:57 GMT
#401
On June 26 2019 00:53 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 00:43 Eywa- wrote:
I think Grack claiming is weird, but isn't necessarily scummy. Scum have no reason to fake claim doc because they are setting themselves up for a D2-D3 lynch... That being a player not under pressure makes it more likely that it's town.

Players who claim under pressure have a higher chance of flipping scum than players who claim when not under pressure. It's crazy how the scummiest player in the game always tends to claim before getting lynched.


But Grackaroni was not under pressure at all. He had one vote on him (HF). And HF was the only person pushing him.

If you're actually the doctor, is this when you feel compelled to claim? And basically forsake your whole role because it's very likely you will be roleblocked every single round?

And there's plenty of reasons to fake claim doctor. I actually doubt there's any doctor at all (and it wouldn't seem very balanced considering we have a day-1 auto confirmed town who happens to be an active Vet, and yes these sort of things do play into a hosts' mind.)

And if there does happen to be a real doctor who counter claims, that gives mafia a free roleblock +shot on HF. Even for a dead mafia that's not that bad a play.

Conversely, if he gets away with his fake claim, he gets a bunch of town cred.

Sure, but if he's not the doctor, we lynch him later in the game and there's no damage done.
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