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On May 19 2019 21:16 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 21:13 Jockmcplop wrote: IS THIS HOW YOU HAVE FUN???
May I suggest you try dropping acid or something. As someone currently coming down off a pretty massive acid trip (and simultaneously healing from sunburns ) I can confirm that this IS a decent way to have fun.
haha me too
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On May 19 2019 21:24 Holyflare wrote:Don't really like the rayn defending in here now. Sure, the points may have been facetious and exaggerated and he may have had that as a "funny" entrance but what has he learnt, where are his reads and what does he think now that he's got 3 votes with people piling on him? So what if he's mafia? Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 21:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote: To elaborate, I expected scum rayn to claim he could catch scum out by them saying their role pm wrong/be defensive. I expect town rayn to either have an elaborate plan to catch people jumping on people on it and jumpstart the thread, or precisely doing what he did. He's not trying to look good or manipulate so I think he's townish for now. This post is just silly because regardless of his alignment or role pm he could have simply just done the same thing without a plan and said the exact same things. Nothing about his alignment changes his response, it's the things he does (or doesn't) do after that do! I haven't heard the trademark rayn calling me mafia, nor have I really heard ANYTHING. That is why rayn is mafia ladies and gentleman. Case closed.
Case closed?
Already??
Man you are really good at this.
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I'm still fully expecting rayn to come back here all full of rayn's furious vengeance and let everyone have it.
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On May 19 2019 21:28 VisceraEyes wrote: HF playing with unwarranted confidence is like, par for the course regardless of his alignment.
He may be right that rayn is mafia, but that he's trying to angleshoot to prove it and back it up with bad meta is.,...boring af.
Does anyone have any suspicions that do NOT have to do with rayn and his role PM?
I dislike rayn's responses so far quite intensely hence the vote. Other than that WBG should come back and nothing else has really happened right?
Artanis is looking townish to me but apparently he's all kinds of good as scum so I'm going to sheep your maybetownread for now.
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On May 19 2019 21:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 21:33 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 19 2019 21:28 VisceraEyes wrote: HF playing with unwarranted confidence is like, par for the course regardless of his alignment.
He may be right that rayn is mafia, but that he's trying to angleshoot to prove it and back it up with bad meta is.,...boring af.
Does anyone have any suspicions that do NOT have to do with rayn and his role PM? I dislike rayn's responses so far quite intensely hence the vote. Other than that WBG should come back and nothing else has really happened right? Artanis is looking townish to me but apparently he's all kinds of good as scum so I'm going to sheep your maybetownread for now. I had one strong scumgame in imperial and now the only way I ever get actual townreads is screaming at people when I'm up for lynch. Feels badman.
I feel for you but I gotta defer to the experience of others on matters of meta. You guys all know each other's play pretty well.
You get townread if you help me lynch scum day 1.
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On May 19 2019 21:47 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Vote: georgewbush
I just didn't want to be the first. Too suspicious.
Are you saying that its suspicious that artanis voted for him first?
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On May 19 2019 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 21:13 Holyflare wrote:On May 19 2019 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 20:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Rayn, what was the plan behind it? No plan. I just thought it would be fun. So you're telling me you went to the past game, copied your post and changed like 50% of the words AND the order when you could have just simply typed out the sentence instead? That's really the line you're going with lol? Yes. Do you think i believe any host ever words VT "town vanilla" lol??? Well actually maybe you of all people do... I mean this is the whole point of the case. Holyflare can actually brainfart and believe this is true and definitely is shameless enough to write shit like that. So nothing much to say about him. J ock is probably just new enough to idk just sheep and not think further. Gut says town becaise it would just give him more to talk about if he was just being right. Bugs should know better. Artanis and VE are being smart, which doesnt surprise me. At least VE is most likely friend. Latest posts say Artanis might be too.
What further thinking have you provided the content for? Its day one and your explanation for that weirdly worded first post wasn't really making a whole lot of sense. Its enough for now. Maybe do something that makes me think you aren't mafia (calling everyone who voted for you shameless/should know better/new and clueless doesn't count).
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On May 19 2019 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 21:13 Holyflare wrote:On May 19 2019 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 20:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Rayn, what was the plan behind it? No plan. I just thought it would be fun. So you're telling me you went to the past game, copied your post and changed like 50% of the words AND the order when you could have just simply typed out the sentence instead? That's really the line you're going with lol? Yes. Do you think i believe any host ever words VT "town vanilla" lol??? Well actually maybe you of all people do... I mean this is the whole point of the case. Holyflare can actually brainfart and believe this is true and definitely is shameless enough to write shit like that. So nothing much to say about him. Jock is probably just new enough to idk just sheep and not think further. Gut says town becaise it would just give him more to talk about if he was just being right. Bugs should know better. Artanis and VE are being smart, which doesnt surprise me. At least VE is most likely friend. Latest posts say Artanis might be too.
Is anyone suspicious to you yet rayn??
It seems like you're only defending yourself by telling people to play better instead of calling people out you think are being scummy.
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On May 19 2019 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 22:04 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 19 2019 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 21:13 Holyflare wrote:On May 19 2019 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 20:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Rayn, what was the plan behind it? No plan. I just thought it would be fun. So you're telling me you went to the past game, copied your post and changed like 50% of the words AND the order when you could have just simply typed out the sentence instead? That's really the line you're going with lol? Yes. Do you think i believe any host ever words VT "town vanilla" lol??? Well actually maybe you of all people do... I mean this is the whole point of the case. Holyflare can actually brainfart and believe this is true and definitely is shameless enough to write shit like that. So nothing much to say about him. J ock is probably just new enough to idk just sheep and not think further. Gut says town becaise it would just give him more to talk about if he was just being right. Bugs should know better. Artanis and VE are being smart, which doesnt surprise me. At least VE is most likely friend. Latest posts say Artanis might be too. What further thinking have you provided the content for? Its day one and your explanation for that weirdly worded first post wasn't really making a whole lot of sense. Its enough for now. Maybe do something that makes me think you aren't mafia (calling everyone who voted for you shameless/should know better/new and clueless doesn't count). Did you even read what i wrote in the post i originally quoted? If you dont want me to excuse you for being new then youre probably mafia because you also should know better that no player that has played 100 games of mafia on TL could never ever think a host words VT as "town vanilla". That is the original case you agreed with. So which is it? I dont care what you think i did or didnt do after, but thats the literal argument you agreed with in the first place.
What case did I agree with? I mostly agreed that your explanation for why you posted like that was weird and funny. I know you would like me not to talk about your responses since then, that would probably work well for you, but if you think about it the whole point of the early pressure on you was to see how you responded so trying to get me to ignore that and focus on the slightly irrelevant case that started it seems like misdirection.
"Just ignore everything I have done except for the bit that I'm trying to get you to focus on".
"Otherwise you are noob."
Nah mate,I'm not having it.
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On May 19 2019 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: I literally just wrote a post where i gave opinions on everyone and everything that has been going on in this game and jock (and now bugs) cone tell me "do something". And thats not dumb?
Yeah there's a reason why people are ignoring your opinions when they can be summarized as "everyone who voted for me is stupid and everyone who didn't is smart"
What do you expect me to read into that exactly? Is it the sort of post that would jump out at you as being made by someone who is scumhunting?
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I'll be back maybe later tonight i'm going to nap and then to the pub. I'm not sure about the iGrok thing. Seems like a little thing to me. I'll check back later and see what has come of it. When I return it'll probably be after midnight and i'll probably be fucking wasted.
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On May 20 2019 06:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:47 Holyflare wrote:On May 20 2019 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am starting to think Holyfare is in fact mafia too. No, you're just being dumb or actually mafia and conflating things into a narrative. No. This one actually is a fucking slam dunk case. I have never been this sure without a check except for the rsoultin mderg not voting for each other case. And the ms paint one. This is top three and this is 100%. You can do whatever you want but he is mafia. I dont care if you, town, or both realise it in this game or after but i am not going to do anything but say this until i am dead or he is lynched. I'm just catching up now (I don't have much time to post but I'll be able to post at work a bit.) Rayn you're going to be very, very disappointed in yourself. Your case on me is absolute bullshit my friend and you know it. The reason I voted for you is simple, go look at BC's posts and the thing he keeps quoting. This was why I voted for you.
Its also amusing that exactly what VE said would happen has happened. You started shitting up the thread with stupid nonsensical accusations.
There is nothing contradictory about what I said. I can say I don't like something and also think it isn't scummy. And all because of this one thing I'm the most certain read you've ever had in your life? Think about that for a second. The most certain read you've EVER HAD is because I didn't like a post and then later on said I find it weird but not scummy.
THE MOST CERTAIN READ YOU'VE EVER HAD. NEVER BEEN THIS SURE WITHOUT A CHECK.
Are you real?
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On May 20 2019 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: I will predict Jockmcplop never arrives anymore to this thread. P.S. i am awake from 7am until 11pm.
Fuck you man. I'm here ask anything you want. I'm also grumpy in the mornings.
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On May 20 2019 08:08 VisceraEyes wrote: The worst part of that Jock post is that he's calling rayn mafia by doing exactly what he told rayn was scummy about him fmp. He says rayn does nothing but come in and bitch about how people are playing, but complains about how rayn is playing.
I did miss that iGrok was town last game for whatever reason I though iGrok was replaced by Vivax who got modkilled, but it was a simultaneous thing iGrok replaced when Vivax was unjustly modkilled. Honest mistake, but it doesn't change my read of this game. Just makes the throwaway meta part of it inaccurate.
"Bitch about how people are playing"
No VE, you're wrong my friend
I was saying that his responses were scummy because rather than trying to find scum he decided not to do so in those early posts. What you're saying here is fundamentally untrue. I was actually TOTALLY calling rayn out on being scum. I wasn't bitching about how people are playing, whereas rayn literally just called a few people stupid and nothing else.
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On May 20 2019 08:30 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:39 disformation wrote:On May 20 2019 06:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Hi disinformation. As I see you are here. Answer me!
What do you think of the quote I posted in my bigger post above? dunno if I see the point. rayn comments on some ppl (which dont look scummy to him) and jock asks if anyone looks suspicious to him. I think one would expect rayn to call people scum/mafia (like he is doing now). though. thinking about it, jock kinda ignores that rayn just gave a bunch of reads and says rayn is only defending himself and berating people. which he isnt cause he just gave reads. hmmm... don't think I like that. idk i havent played in a while but this sorta flaky thing is something that’s rather evident (like rayn just mentioned, he doesn’t take a stance really)someone correct me if that’s just how disfo plays, but i dont like pivot posts where someone goes “hmm good point but x” “this is true but y” might be personal bias against posts like that though. i’ll do a meta check once at a computer but i like my read right now
WTF this is scummy. So apologetic about his read. And he has played recently - End of the World Mafia..
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On May 20 2019 15:11 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 15:07 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: I will predict Jockmcplop never arrives anymore to this thread. P.S. i am awake from 7am until 11pm. Fuck you man. I'm here ask anything you want. I'm also grumpy in the mornings. Would you kill ruxxar? If no, why not? What about disformation and Calix? Those are the three options I am presenting today, and if you want my rationale you can check my previous posts. We aren’t killing rayn day 1.
I only have 10 minutes before I gotta go to work I'll have a quick check of their filters.
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Please don't try to meta read me guys. I'm literally trying all different things in different games for a reason. I'm experimenting because some things that I'm trying are failing horribly and some other things are working. You won't be able to meta read me from 3 games where I instadied in two of them and was mafia in the the other. Obviously I needed to change my town play?!?!?
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On May 20 2019 15:11 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 15:07 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: I will predict Jockmcplop never arrives anymore to this thread. P.S. i am awake from 7am until 11pm. Fuck you man. I'm here ask anything you want. I'm also grumpy in the mornings. Would you kill ruxxar? If no, why not? What about disformation and Calix? Those are the three options I am presenting today, and if you want my rationale you can check my previous posts. We aren’t killing rayn day 1.
I can't figure out why you would want to kill ruxxar. Looking through your filter there's a post where you say its because of something he said but didn't quote it. I really, genuinely don't have time to go ook it up in the thread but man I can't see anything that really jumps out at me as scummy. Yet.
Disinformation: I don't really like his posting. Its a little scummy to pick on reads that other people are making without making any of your own so he is certainly in the scumlean pile.
Calix That first post was horrible. Later on he is posting things that make a little bit of sense. I'm interested in the VE/rayn setup idea, although I'm also open to that literally just being VE knowing that rayn would shit up the thread because he always does this.
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##unvote
Rayn case is stupid and he shouldn't be confident in it but that's not scummy in itself. It just means he's a terrible town player or possibly overacting on his tenuous read because he's scum, but that waits to be seen.
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On May 20 2019 15:25 wherebugsgo wrote:Jock, here: Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 10:44 wherebugsgo wrote:man I hate when I'm timeboxed for decisions. I've got one I've got to make before the 27th and I'd rather just punt it for 6 months but people are impatient /rl rant On May 20 2019 09:45 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 20 2019 08:59 wherebugsgo wrote: I’ve got a meeting in 3 minutes.
VE, BC while I’m gone sheep me on ruxxar or explain why you don’t want to
Also define who’s a thread skimmer/lurker this game and rank them on kill priority I'm gonna pass on that one. A) You've given literally no reasoning that I can see for your vote aside from "for that one post alone" which, filtering you in isolation, I can't even see which it is. So... B) I filtered ruxxar and found that his posting seems internally consistent, and relatively comprehensive as far as "what you should know about me" posts go. It feels this side of townie to me. I'm not going to rank lurkers on kill priority, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard what are you even fucking doing? you're right, I didn't post reasons for ruxxar, mostly because I put too much faith in people actually going back to read his only post of any real substance and it being self-explanatory from his entrance. It's quite simple: On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote: sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics. i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart. - hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up. - VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia. - rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho. - bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information. already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix 3 things that stand out: 1. Doesn't want to lynch active people but isn't actively involved either. In fact there's almost a hidden implication that ruxxar doesn't intend to be active in that statement 2. First 5 bullets come off as "I need to post some reads so I can continue skating by so let me summarize some basics and say things others probably would agree with" 3. Calix vote justification looks forced and justification for the sake of justification. When Calix responded by saying "yeah well, it looks like that way because I'm sheeping" ruxxar's only response was to concede that the pronouns were wrong. The tl;dr is that my read is on the basis of ruxxar’s entrance post plus his reaction to the resistance that Calix put up.
OK
Yeah.
Like I don't think its the scummiest thing I've seen in the game but you have got a point.
I might be down for ruxxar vote. I'm leaving it unvoted for now though lets see what happens with this today.
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