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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 05 2019 21:38 GMT
#1461
Mmmmmmmmm ya keep an eye on MZ, today may be another possible shenanigan day with two really good wagons.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 05 2019 21:41 GMT
#1462
even though it's been nothing much yet I kinda want to switch to grack already based on mz's cooperation



idk what i want to do anymore
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 05 2019 21:42 GMT
#1463
On May 06 2019 06:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
even though it's been nothing much yet I kinda want to switch to grack already based on mz's cooperation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXOucG8rM5k

idk what i want to do anymore

Well I'll tell you what we're NOT gonna do, and that's worry.

We've totally got this.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
May 05 2019 21:42 GMT
#1464
On May 06 2019 06:36 Pandain wrote:
Grack what is your opinion on me and MZ?

I don’t think you would have made your post about Koshi’s meta as scum.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 05 2019 21:45 GMT
#1465
On May 06 2019 06:42 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2019 06:36 Pandain wrote:
Grack what is your opinion on me and MZ?

I don’t think you would have made your post about Koshi’s meta as scum.

ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 05 2019 21:53 GMT
#1466
On May 05 2019 02:16 Grackaroni wrote:
I think we should lynch Pandain.

After rereading his filter I don't like that he makes such a hard turn into being super sure Vivax is the best lynch at the end of the day and tries to milk the credit for voting him for all that it's worth. Rayn put him in a spot where he pretty much had to vote Vivax but there wasn't much chance of Vivax actually dying at the end of the day when the only people posting were me/Pandain/Rayn.


I don't like this post at all. First of all, the last sentence is extremely and obviously false, and looks like he's just trying to make up stuff. The idea I felt forced by Rayn to vote Vivax is extremely ridiculous and I'm not sure how anyone actually can come to that conclusion, particuarly since he was there when it was happening.

But second of all, and more importantly, it actually reveals his own mindset during the lynch. Grack, in his own words, thought there was very little chance of Vivax dying. Unlike me, and it basically completely negates his own vote on Vivax.

On May 05 2019 02:23 Grackaroni wrote:
From the way I saw it Vivax was a pretty good lynch just from lynching into a player that wasn't posting (and also is bad at scum) without having any strong scum reads but I didn't think he had all that much better odds of flipping mafia than most of the other players from just his two posts.

I think Pandain really played up the end of the day vote after Rayn said he wanted to vote Vivax. This reads to me like: "now that I'm bussing I want to get as much credit as possible from the vote."

Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 04:50 Pandain wrote:
I'm down to lynch vivax. Lets go?


Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 04:52 Pandain wrote:
Vivax is a great lynch. He's always obvious town when he's town and super active. Compare that with this game where it is not obvious at all and he's barely contributed (but enough to "pass")


Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 04:53 Pandain wrote:
Grack join the train. You know me and you are mafia bros. Let's lynch scum together.


Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 04:54 Pandain wrote:
Who else is here? There's gotta be mafia lurking.


Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 04:57 Pandain wrote:
Fuck I think Vivax was the best lynch actually. Where is everyone.



This also makes no sense. I was trying to get as much credit as possible from the bus? But actually I was only able to get credit because Vivax was modkilled, something no one could have predicted day one.

And in his own words, "Vivax was very unlikely to get lynched." So in that scenario I would have never gotten any credit (because no flip), and instead I would have just thrown Vivax under the bus for day 2.


On May 05 2019 02:56 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 04:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax
Wherebugsgo
Pandain
(Fecalfeast)


VE is never mafia for anyone who will question it later. He is just too invested in teh game, i think that was the only unexplained read i had. Goodluck.

Fwiw I bet Rayn had 2 of these reads right.

I don't think he got killed just over Vivax.


Trying to sheep Rayn's analysis, which is the same exact thing mafia koshi tried to do. Seems mafia was trying to get people to follow dead town Rayn's analysis, and Grack is doing the same thing here.


I also don't like how he hardcore defended HF and said he's super obviously townie.
On May 05 2019 02:10 Grackaroni wrote:
What the fuck guys.

Holyflare's filter is super super townie.


This is the weakest of my points. But I don't think it was actually obvious and there were lots of good points made against him. I think dismissing them like this suggests inside knowledge.


Anyway just some thoughts. I'm going to do meta analysis tomorrow if I have time. Still not placing a vote but definitely more suspicious of Grack.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 05 2019 21:57 GMT
#1467
The strongest plus for Grack is that at the end of last night he was seriously questioning Koshi. It's a big plus, admittedly, although it's impossible to know what he would have actually done once the day started if Koshi hadn't died.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 05 2019 22:46 GMT
#1468
On May 06 2019 06:57 Pandain wrote:
The strongest plus for Grack is that at the end of last night he was seriously questioning Koshi. It's a big plus, admittedly, although it's impossible to know what he would have actually done once the day started if Koshi hadn't died.

Ya agree here, interactions involving Koshi more meaningful since he died unexpectedly. He was also not next in line wrt lynch according to thread sentiment.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 05 2019 22:47 GMT
#1469
Just wish he'd been more active. Gives us little to go on.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 05 2019 23:17 GMT
#1470
man I am actually so mad at myself

Either I was wrong for the whole game about every single one of my scumreads or I went and undermined myself on MZ repeatedly

vig MVP. I agree that we should all claim. I’m VT.

Right now I’m still scum on MZ but I agree that I don’t like grack. However I don’t think the NK makes grack more suspicious, especially because the NK on N1 was used by mafia to try and make me more suspicious.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
May 05 2019 23:19 GMT
#1471
It wasn’t me I swears it on ALL of the Grackaronis
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 05 2019 23:21 GMT
#1472
All right it was me. Sry I'd have liked to clear someone.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 05 2019 23:24 GMT
#1473
On May 06 2019 08:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
All right it was me. Sry I'd have liked to clear someone.


how is this possible we’re both scum in this game
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 05 2019 23:31 GMT
#1474
I disagree with claiming. I think this game is going really well for town but the one way to ruin it is we believe a fake claim.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 05 2019 23:32 GMT
#1475
hold on grack you promised a reads post before daybreak and that never came

##vote Grackaroni

Post it now
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
May 05 2019 23:33 GMT
#1476
We can’t believe a fake claim because town can just counter claim and win
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
May 05 2019 23:35 GMT
#1477
Yeah I was reading and then I ran out of time before end of night. I think that was pretty clear.

Your shit reads super opportunistic to me.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
May 05 2019 23:36 GMT
#1478
You were buddying me all game and then all of a sudden super serious pressure after everybody turns on me.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 05 2019 23:36 GMT
#1479
Yeah try and get me lynched motherfucker I dare you

You called me town half the game up till now and from reading your filter you’ve tried your hardest to be on the right side of every flip
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 05 2019 23:37 GMT
#1480
On May 05 2019 03:15 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2019 03:03 Pandain wrote:
On May 05 2019 02:16 Grackaroni wrote:
I think we should lynch Pandain.

After rereading his filter I don't like that he makes such a hard turn into being super sure Vivax is the best lynch at the end of the day and tries to milk the credit for voting him for all that it's worth. Rayn put him in a spot where he pretty much had to vote Vivax but there wasn't much chance of Vivax actually dying at the end of the day when the only people posting were me/Pandain/Rayn.


None of this is true.

First of all I had a strong scum read on him, but it wasn't "certain" by any means .

Second, Rayn didn't put me in any position and I'm not sure what this means at all. I could have easily not tried to change the lynch, or lynch bugs (Rayn top scum read), or just go afk. So this is completely false.

Third, we had no idea how much chance there was. Normally end of day is very active and inactive people come back last 20 or so minutes. There were four non voters which us huge.



You asked Rayn if he would switch to Rels. He said he the only vote he would switch to was Vivax. It would look really strange imo if you came out against lynching Vivax after expressing interest in switching up the vote, so I don't see you ever not voting Vivax as scum in that position. If you wanted a WBG lynch then conceivably you would have voted him already.



Do you really believe this? Do you believe that as scum because I expressed interest in lynching someone else I would have to lynch my mafia teammate because rayn said he would maybe switch to vivax?
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