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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 13 2019 17:48 GMT
#7699
But keep talking Exo.
Get some reads on other people, explain them and then maybe I won't think you're scum any more.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 13 2019 18:22 GMT
#7724
@acrofales
I was about to quote that post.
That explanation of the chezinu situation makes total sense.

I don't know about the case against onegu though. I didn't understand how those night kills made hf definite town either, but I get what he's saying about the day vig should be waiting until later to get more info before shooting.

He's also right that no-one gets town cred from the sentinel lynch. Scum could have easily been on that wagon without knowing he was traitor.

The thing i find most scummy is that he needed to find a way to avoid responding to you.

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 15 2019 09:56 GMT
#8352
On March 15 2019 18:54 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2019 16:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also yeah I’m down for an onegu lynch

I don’t think it’s lylo, just because 4 mislynches is really punishing for town

Math me up, scumboi. How many scum are there and how do the KP work to make it not-lylo?


Do you know if the mafia traitor usually contributes to KP?

I only ask because if not, its more like 5 mislynches if you assume that the main focus of lynching early game is to reduce mafia KP rather than just kill any mafia.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 15 2019 09:57 GMT
#8353
lol I'm here was typing as you posted that
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 15 2019 10:27 GMT
#8359
On March 15 2019 19:09 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2019 18:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 15 2019 18:54 Acrofales wrote:
On March 15 2019 16:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also yeah I’m down for an onegu lynch

I don’t think it’s lylo, just because 4 mislynches is really punishing for town

Math me up, scumboi. How many scum are there and how do the KP work to make it not-lylo?


Do you know if the mafia traitor usually contributes to KP?

I only ask because if not, its more like 5 mislynches if you assume that the main focus of lynching early game is to reduce mafia KP rather than just kill any mafia.

I've outlined what I think are the likely scenarios for mafia KP and why we're in lylo. In neither of those does killing the traitor affect their KP.

The reason I think these are the most likely is because we can be fairly certain mafia had 3 KP on nights 2-4, and probably on night 1 as well. If we take that for true, then the only 2 formulas (that I thought of) that give a reasonable size scumteam and explain this KP number are the ones I outlined.

Killing the traitor who doesn't know about his team members and who in turn don't know about him isn't a mislynch, but it's not a clear victory either. No reduction in KP and no useful associations.

Anyway, you need to vote for Oats.


Is your case against oats mostly based off his politeness to Palmar being scummy?
I'm not sure that's enough, although I don't like the way he has responded without answering that case.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 15 2019 10:28 GMT
#8360
On March 15 2019 19:26 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2019 19:12 Acrofales wrote:
On March 15 2019 19:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 15 2019 18:53 Acrofales wrote:
On March 15 2019 11:52 Alakaslam wrote:
Acrofales:



Why am i drawing your attention to this?

I have no idea. Because nobody has taken control of this boat?

Or because you think scum is captaining the boat?

Or because you really want to be in charge of rations?

Anyway, back to task.

I don't trust Mocsta's claim, rescinding it, or any of the reasoning around it. DF is probably scum, from my read through yesterday, but Oats is a sure thing.

We need a sure thing. So sheep me onto Oats!

Really starting to look like this

I wish this was my scumgame. I wouldn't be as worried about my reads flipping the wrong color.

That's the main reason I don't trust mocsta, btw. With Grack and SL flipping town, there's scum hiding in my townreads.
wtf is this shit

U gave me clear town read yesterday

Pull ya head out

Today is not about ego
Its about lylo survival

Do u think oats n exo can be scum together?
If not. Oats cannot be the best lynch choice today.

Again. This isnt ego
Darthfoley has zero redeeming features. Absolutely zilch.

Oats has exo


Sorry, explain to me like I'm a 5 year old what the connection between oats and exo is please! Thanks
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 15 2019 10:40 GMT
#8363
On March 15 2019 19:32 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2019 19:28 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 15 2019 19:26 Mocsta wrote:
On March 15 2019 19:12 Acrofales wrote:
On March 15 2019 19:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 15 2019 18:53 Acrofales wrote:
On March 15 2019 11:52 Alakaslam wrote:
Acrofales:

https://youtu.be/t4yu80ZhI5Q

Why am i drawing your attention to this?

I have no idea. Because nobody has taken control of this boat?

Or because you think scum is captaining the boat?

Or because you really want to be in charge of rations?

Anyway, back to task.

I don't trust Mocsta's claim, rescinding it, or any of the reasoning around it. DF is probably scum, from my read through yesterday, but Oats is a sure thing.

We need a sure thing. So sheep me onto Oats!

Really starting to look like this

I wish this was my scumgame. I wouldn't be as worried about my reads flipping the wrong color.

That's the main reason I don't trust mocsta, btw. With Grack and SL flipping town, there's scum hiding in my townreads.
wtf is this shit

U gave me clear town read yesterday

Pull ya head out

Today is not about ego
Its about lylo survival

Do u think oats n exo can be scum together?
If not. Oats cannot be the best lynch choice today.

Again. This isnt ego
Darthfoley has zero redeeming features. Absolutely zilch.

Oats has exo


Sorry, explain to me like I'm a 5 year old what the connection between oats and exo is please! Thanks
exo and oats are both playing lone wolf

Exo is complete loner but is awarw of thread sentiment
Oats is loner but seems to be out of sync

The 2 styles are so different but same outcome (= loner) . I dont see both being scum.

I thought it exo was town and oats scum night 4.
But acro thought exo was scummy which made me reconsider if exo could be scum and oata is playing dumb town.

Someone would have to meta dive oats and give a recent example of hom being dumb scum intentionally before i vote him in lylo with 15player pool.

This is enough doubt to lynch df or onegu over oats in my opinion


This all makes alot of sense to me, especcially the bolded part.
Acro, you're up. I'm gonna need more from you if I'm going to vote Oats.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 15 2019 14:23 GMT
#8370
@acro
Another interesting point to be gleamed from your post is that when Oats wanted us to stick to voting on the wagons it was confirmed TvT.
The fact that he changes his tune for chez vs TS throws TS's alignment into question.. if you are going to scumread oats for that.

I'm convinced though oats is going down.

##vote oatsmaster
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 17 2019 15:19 GMT
#8933
gg all!

Thanks hosts + everyone else also for welcoming me.
I know I faded towards the end (I didn't know how much effort was going to be required when i signed up lol) but i really enjoyed it and I'll be back for more if more happens
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 17 2019 15:22 GMT
#8935
ps kitaman i'm down as a green in the post game analysis of filter page count...
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 17 2019 15:22 GMT
#8936
On March 18 2019 00:22 Dandel Ion wrote:
don't worry you were so sneaky even kita forgot you were scum!



:D
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 17 2019 16:00 GMT
#8956
btw acrofales basically handed me my fake role in the game when he called me 'clueless townie' on day 1. Fine, I'm clueless, so I just played that angle up all game making stupid nonsensical reads (this is half because i don't know how to read people properly and half because i enjoyed the whole strategy).
It worked because then the old confirmation bias kicked in and acro was my biggest defender after that just assuming that i was a clueless townie- actually i was clueless mafia.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 17 2019 16:02 GMT
#8957
I thought I'd fucked it up when hf made a TMI read on me and it kinda shook my confidence alot and i posted alot less after that.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 19 2019 11:08 GMT
#9047
I need to try and learn from this game so I have a couple of questions if you guys don't mind:

1: Was the win a result of bad town play more than good mafia play?

2: How to avoid the constant TvT wagons that wrecked this game for town?

3: Was there any more the mafia could have done to control the game or would this ultimately be an unnecessary risk?

4: Were there any big, defining errors made by town where the game should have gone differently?

I'm not asking for any detailed analysis, more just off the tops of your heads from memory as a guide for me so I know what to look for as I re-read the game.

Thanks
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 19 2019 11:33 GMT
#9050
Thanks acrofales and nicely done with the phone post
RIP Meatloaf <3
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