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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 08 2019 10:31 GMT
#5857
On March 08 2019 19:26 Acrofales wrote:
Reading through Damdred's filter gives me a big fat nothingburger. So he's scum.


He sure does say sorry alot.
Thinks alot of people are probably town but makes no scumreads.
I like it.
Damdred come here and explain yourself mister. Your filter is simply not good enough.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 08 2019 10:35 GMT
#5860
On March 08 2019 19:33 Acrofales wrote:
Hmmm. Fecalfeast is the strongest scumfeel from the filters I read today. He's been around. He has been "helpful" and has the completely unconcerned feel of a scummer who knows his buddies are all safe. Add this to the "bid" he did for mayor, knowing he'd never get elected and use it all of D1 to do effectively nothing. GG.


I asked him more than once why i should vote for him for mayor and he never responded. Thread was chaotic at the time, but i was a little suspicious.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 08 2019 10:40 GMT
#5864
On March 08 2019 19:36 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 19:10 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 08 2019 18:57 Acrofales wrote:
I don't support a holyflare lunch tomorrow. D2 was totally lost because of making it about holyflare vs BH. Holyflare is probably scum, but it's clear he made himself unlynchable with a whole army of Sheeples who aren't even playing the game. So we just need to kill off the rest of his team first. I also realized that because of D2, I don't even know where the rest of the scum is. They're in a huge pile of blehhhhhhhhhh. I read exo_ fully expecting to think he was scum, but he is no worse than the whole pile of shitty inactives, which includes you, pandain.

I will be ignoring everything HF says for the rest of the game, and am || <- this close to doing the same with rayn.

If someone wants me to comment on something holyflare said, please quote it as I am literally skipping over any post he makes.

PS. I will treat pandain as modconfirmed town, as I refuse to believe mods would allow a scummer to replace out and back in again. So that makes 3 confirmed townies


Is this a real thing? Can anyone else confirm?


The opposite is more likely because a townie would get information out of the game and be observing from the sidelines. Mafia know who mafia are so not much would change. Don't know why acro feels the opposite.


Interesting.
I can't really go off other players' reads if you are all saying different things about something like this.
That means more work for me fml
I'll just treat him like everyone else then and go read his filter.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 08 2019 10:46 GMT
#5865
hf are we gonna get some of these lurkers involved?

Also if you think I'm mafia come at me I got all day today. Is it just a vague TMI read with one piece of evidence or is there more?

Have a look through my filter I explained the trfel thing and it does make sense.

I ended up out on the piss last night but I would have changed my vote to BH eventually if I had been around. I was hoping that an ace wagon could get started because if that guy's not scum I don't know what planet I'm on.

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 08 2019 12:47 GMT
#5877
Here's where I'm at right now:
Onegu
Fecalfeast
Tictock
Tumblewood
sicklucker
Damdred
Chezinu
ExO_
[UoN]Sentinel
Pandain replaced by AMG
darthfoley
Meapak_Ziphh
BloodyC0bbler
Ace
Rels


Notable:

MZ has made more townie posts recently. I wish he would quit trying to lynch me though and hunt some scum with me instead. No longer on my scumlist.

Sentinel gotta go.

Rels looks townie to me because he has been scumhunting and his reasoning seems genuine. If rsoultin wants to come and convince me otherwise I'm listening but that qt thing, although suspicious, isn't really enough for me.

Damdred, onegu and Exo are all scumleans.

Any townies on that list need to come and play so we can have more to go off because this is just frustrating.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 08 2019 14:12 GMT
#5885
On March 08 2019 22:58 LightningStrike wrote:
Where is everyone I am a bit sad


You missed the sifaka lemurs yesterday.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 08 2019 17:43 GMT
#5969
I'm afk for the rest of the day after another half an hour.
If anyone has any questions or something I can answer other than 'jock is scum' ask now or spend the evening actually hunting scum instead.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 08 2019 17:52 GMT
#5973
On March 09 2019 02:46 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2019 02:43 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm afk for the rest of the day after another half an hour.
If anyone has any questions or something I can answer other than 'jock is scum' ask now or spend the evening actually hunting scum instead.


I've got one for you.

It's your first game here.

Mafia chose to kill three dudes at night.

Have you gone to their filters who aren't a lot to read and tried to figure out what made mafia kill them?


Not really.

I had a brief (at least) look through everyone's filters. Did mafia definitely kill all three? I thought there was some discussion about that.
From what I've seen of Iamp, koshi and marv's filters there's not much conclusive in there. Iamp was a bit all over the place and the other two hadn't done a huge amount of work so there isn't anything clear coming from them (unless you can enlighten me).
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 08 2019 18:13 GMT
#5978
On March 09 2019 03:05 Vivax wrote:
IIRC mafia KP formula for games this size has always been mafia/2 rounded up.

Until you lynch one it's 3 kills per night.

Acro, me and WoS dying tonight most likely. Although once HF reads this he could change it.

Rayn, HF, tina never dying.


So town should have a vig right?
Does that mean they were roleblocked or does it mean that one of the mafia was roleblocked?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 08 2019 18:19 GMT
#5979
NKs are a little confusing to me at the moment. Even reading through previous games is a bit bewildering trying to figure out what's going on at night.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 08 2019 18:20 GMT
#5980
Like can we RB mafia kills or do they always stand?
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 08 2019 18:24 GMT
#5982
On March 09 2019 03:22 Vivax wrote:
There is no town roleblocker, the doctor died D1. So mafia kills always stand.

Iamp was probably roleblocked N1, so either we don't have a vig or he's still holding the bullet.


oh that all makes things slightly clearer.
So we'll probably learn alot more from whoever gets killed tonight than we did last time.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 08 2019 18:33 GMT
#5985
On March 09 2019 03:30 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2019 03:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 09 2019 03:22 Vivax wrote:
There is no town roleblocker, the doctor died D1. So mafia kills always stand.

Iamp was probably roleblocked N1, so either we don't have a vig or he's still holding the bullet.


oh that all makes things slightly clearer.
So we'll probably learn alot more from whoever gets killed tonight than we did last time.


HF is eyeing you so the day you have to defend against lynch pressure is super close.

Btw you don't like MZ, Exo and TS for mafia?


I have to go like right now but short answers:

MZ: At first but as I've got more used to reading people I dunno if my original read was just nitpicking more than anything else. He was top ofmy list for a while, but I've gone cold on that idea for some reason

Exo: His filter doesn't look that scummy to me but my mind is open on that one. If he posts more or a wagon appears I would be interested.

TS: I haven't looked very much into compared to everyone else.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 08 2019 18:35 GMT
#5988
If I have to defend against lynch pressure from hf so be it.

I've answered all of his points and asked him to come at me today while i had the whole day free and he didn't bother. If he's waiting for me to leave then make of that what you will.

I would much prefer to spend my time scumhunting than defending myself but defending myself can't be that hard. I've tried to think through all the reads I've made so far. Mind you that didn't palmar or BH.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 08 2019 18:38 GMT
#5989
Laters everyone.
When I get back I will be wasted and I can be embarrassing with my terrible sense of humour so sorry about that.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 09 2019 01:03 GMT
#6213
On March 09 2019 10:00 Holyflare wrote:
I can't wait for your new reads list by the way Ace. It will literally be the highlight of my morning.


Are you sure that isn't going to be my post about how to ignore the main message of all your posts and instead look for what you're hiding in there?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 09 2019 01:10 GMT
#6216
On March 09 2019 10:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2019 10:03 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 09 2019 10:00 Holyflare wrote:
I can't wait for your new reads list by the way Ace. It will literally be the highlight of my morning.


Are you sure that isn't going to be my post about how to ignore the main message of all your posts and instead look for what you're hiding in there?


I have no idea what you mean :D

Where in the uk you from btw?


Manchestaaaaaaaar!

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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 09 2019 01:11 GMT
#6218
[image loading]

maybe thistime?
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 09 2019 01:21 GMT
#6227
On March 09 2019 10:18 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2019 10:10 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 09 2019 10:07 Holyflare wrote:
On March 09 2019 10:03 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 09 2019 10:00 Holyflare wrote:
I can't wait for your new reads list by the way Ace. It will literally be the highlight of my morning.


Are you sure that isn't going to be my post about how to ignore the main message of all your posts and instead look for what you're hiding in there?


I have no idea what you mean :D

Where in the uk you from btw?


Manchestaaaaaaaar!

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Bloody northerners.


I'm worse I'm a voluntary northerner. I'm originally from near Peterborough in a little fantasy Harry Potter land called Stamford but all the fucking poncy southern shandy drinking bastards chased me up ere.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 09 2019 06:45 GMT
#6289
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 08 2019 18:54 Jockmcplop wrote:
The Case


For Ace



Being scum


Or dumb

Its incredibly easy for anyone to see that ace is scum. He only has a 4 page filter and most of it is literally useless, apart from one obvious wagon that he can sink all of his reasonable looking posts into.

1: 1 word answers and anti discussion posting

The following is a list of just a few the times Ace simply quotes something questionable and puts a single word there or something obviously designed to avoid people coming back to him and asking questions about it.
Its effective, because no=one ever does that and he gets away with artificially inflating his post count for basically doing nothing.

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 06:51 Ace wrote:
On March 05 2019 06:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 05 2019 06:37 Koshi wrote:
On March 05 2019 06:33 Holyflare wrote:
On March 05 2019 06:22 Koshi wrote:
On March 05 2019 06:20 sicklucker wrote:
na I need a confirmation too many rambos on this site who will shot vivax day 1 and waste are shit or something

Iamp is advocating to lynch bh constantly. It is our best bet.

Palmar tje fucker will shoot sentinel because palmar might be mafia.

Holyflare will shoot Palmar because town!HF is not really top tier and he doesnt know better.


Still no comprendo. Me no speak English.

He wants you to pad his ego.


Hey ace why koshi?


Random vote. Got a prod that I didn't have a vote on anyone. I'll change if Im around before EOD.


discussion killer here.

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On March 05 2019 08:49 Ace wrote:
On March 05 2019 08:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Wait. I go to fucking work then sleep and come back to this clusterfuck? Why for the love of god are we lynching Palmar of all fucking people. You may hate his fucking guts right now but of all the "vet" or big name players in this game hes actually put in more effort than anyone fucking else.

Do you disagree with his reads? Likely. Do I? On some of them yes. But the guy is clearly playing for the town. Have any of you guys played with him? or remember games with him? He does this shit consistently with town. He polarizes everyone in the game for or against him to get reads / generate discussion. Sometimes it may just be because hes being an asshole or believes hes better than you.

So no I am not down for lynching him -_-


If you were going to off an old school player at this point just to do it you'd be better served with offing Me, Ace, BH, or MZ tbh. We all have done basically nothing in comparison.

We as an entire group have literally designed a day that lets mafia just slide by and do sweet fuck all and based on thread sentiment could get away with it for way way way too long. Sure you could after the fact try and harass suspects for reasons but basically everyone can regurgitate the same horseshit and you get borderline nothing.

So. HF get the fuck off Palmar. You may hate his fucking guts / think hes the worlds shittiest player but the guy is clearly attempting to help the town at this point and has done far more to push that then most in this game.


How about instead we look into this pool.

Onegu
Why?
1) Says he will be try hard. Is clearly not thus is not living up to what he said he would attempt.
2) Reads currently given have no substance to them
3) Clearly skirting by the activity requirements
4) Basically just has posts with 0 content


Iamperfection

I have already brought him up in my last analysis post. Basically it is very similar however to expand on it.

On March 04 2019 05:40 iamperfection wrote:
On March 04 2019 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
My response is more or less going to be impacted by your response to my question.

i probably wont give my full reads until tomorrow.

i think your probably town though cause i think your confused by my play and are trying to figure out my alignment


Since I have been waiting now for awhile to see what reads he has. Let me sum it up for you. He hasn't posted any of value. Why? Because he hasnt posted any reasonable reasons.
He has also asked for what? 3 vig shots now on players
Someone like this whos played as long as he had know better. This isn't behaviour IMO of a townie. Its scum.



This post reeks. Why would you pop up near EOD to post this? You even segregated players and faked outrage. Heavy FoS here.


Asks the question but isn't there to answer it. No detail just an accusation. Doesn't bring it up again.

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 10:28 Ace wrote:
On March 05 2019 10:24 Damdred wrote:
On March 05 2019 10:21 Ace wrote:
Well that was terrible.

@Trfel: Really wish you claimed :'(. GG tho dude/dudette.


There are no mafia doctors so vigis can shoot Holyflare at will. If he somehow does not die tonight he is an auto-lynch tomorrow.

Earlier in the thread when I was talking to HF and Wiggles, I was alluding to the fact that Hf or Palmar have to stick to their plan on the lynch (Sentinel). It would take a very convincing reason to lynch someone else. For all his talk, Palmar never came across as a strong scum read. HF lynching him instead of Sentinel or even BH means he has to die. He did not stick to his guns and did not have good reason to lynch Palmar.

side note:Would have been funny (and rage inducing) if Trfel flipped Cop and Palmar flipped back up Cop.


Anyway, we kill HF asap. No fucking around.


What is this? Even I know hf stuck to his guns he wan ted to lynch palm for a long time no?


Him wanting to lynch Palmar =/= good reason to switch.


Again there's nothing useful here just poking holes in posts.


Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 10:28 Ace wrote:
On March 05 2019 10:24 Holyflare wrote:
On March 05 2019 10:21 Ace wrote:
Well that was terrible.

@Trfel: Really wish you claimed :'(. GG tho dude/dudette.


There are no mafia doctors so vigis can shoot Holyflare at will. If he somehow does not die tonight he is an auto-lynch tomorrow.

Earlier in the thread when I was talking to HF and Wiggles, I was alluding to the fact that Hf or Palmar have to stick to their plan on the lynch (Sentinel). It would take a very convincing reason to lynch someone else. For all his talk, Palmar never came across as a strong scum read. HF lynching him instead of Sentinel or even BH means he has to die. He did not stick to his guns and did not have good reason to lynch Palmar.

side note:Would have been funny (and rage inducing) if Trfel flipped Cop and Palmar flipped back up Cop.


Anyway, we kill HF asap. No fucking around.



Good one voting the guy into mayorship that was saying he was sticking to his plan there, Ace.

Holyflare (15): Tubesock, Holyflare, rsoultin, Ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast, iamperfection, Damdred, ExO_


Thanks. Add some more colors to my name. I love variety.


Nothing post

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On March 07 2019 13:43 Ace wrote:
On March 06 2019 17:19 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 06 2019 10:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 05 2019 07:36 Jockmcplop wrote:
I've been keeping up but not posting.
Shouldn't trfel be here defending himself if he's scum instead of that 'take it or leave it' bullshit?


On March 05 2019 07:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm voting trfel because so many people have reads on him and I'm not sure what's going on with BH at all.

Soo post one suggests that you think trfel is town and then you decide to vote for him as scum bc "you don't know whats going on with BC"

HMMMMMM

Also you're one of those HF lurker voters...

On March 05 2019 18:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 05 2019 18:29 rsoultin wrote:
i'm done with you acro. go back to something interesting, if you can manage it. calling your maybes in your reads list bad was a good start

@jock uhhuh...yeah i don't get how you read this game and claim that hf didn't have a scumread on palmar that he made overwhelmingly clear multiple times including his intention to use the mayor lynch to vote him. if your uncommitted to any pov is your way of saying he's scum i guess that makes some sense but it's a lot of words just to nullread someone


At one point he said he wasn't going to lynch palmar and was just using the platform to find out who would go for it. The he said that was a lie.
This is the post that is making me question his motives and how genuine his palmar read was.

This is literally hours after the flip dude. What about him literally killing palmar is making you question his motives. Jock you've waffled so many times on HF in the last 24 hours I can't help but feel like you're setting yourself up for either side of an HF lynch and you're just waiting to see which way the thread goes.

You also ask a lot of questions and push very few reads. You have only one substantial post detailing who you think is scum and have done nothing to advance your case... my goodness we're gonna have quite the docket of scum once I'm done sifting through the HF voters.



Yeah but this is a stupid case, and heavily cherry picked. Unfortunately you accidentally cherry picked the part that shows exactly why I did what I did.
I'm sure you'll be gone for a week or whatever now though so you just left this here like a fart before you left. Great job.

Is there anything about my explanation for my questioning of hf yesterday that doesn't make sense?
I had him as a townread and he's probably the most influential guy in the game at the moment. The way he went for the will I/won't I that you quoted here with Palmar and then explained it as just trying to have a laugh and inject fun into the thread (which is his explanation for all his anti-town actions) was something that got me thinking...

So given that during the night phase I have nothing pressing to take care of I thought I'd try and get more information to try and see where he's coming from (this is also why I'm didn't make alot of reads yesterday - no-one's listening to me anyway so it wouldn't help with town decision making either).

You guys read each other and make cases based off years of meta knowledge (which probably explains this weakass shit I wake up to), I only have people's actual posts to go off, and HF's were something I found a little weird. He is by no means the most suspicious guy in the game to me, but he's the most important at the moment so I don't want to be caught with my pants down accidentally townreading him.

Same goes for rsoultin. My thinking was exactly the same - although as the day went on it became clear that no-one's really paying her any attention so I dropped it.

When it comes to the trfel vote I was mostly concerned with making sure acro didn't get voted out as he's definitely town and useful. I wanted to get on a wagon and BH seemed like an interesting guy to keep around which was enough to go on for what was basically a coinflip.


yikes


On March 06 2019 17:24 Holyflare wrote:
The people voting me are on the biggest cop out lynch of 2019. I bet they're the same people that whined that BH didn't get shot too.

What benefit does my flip bring other than drawing you closer to end game? BH at least gives you the information about wagons. I'm also pumping out content comparatively to BH who is just sitting there with the most information in the game about his wagon and instead he's still just repeating to kill him. You may not agree with what I'm writing but that's your choice.

You can look at MZ's spreadsheet to see how stupid lynching palmar would have been if I was mafia. I'm not stupid as mafia, I demand thread consensus and people town reading me because it's the path of least resistance.

I will look into you Holyflare voters and if I see that you complained that BH isn't dead I will know your motivation about lynching me is completely feigned.


R.O.F.L.


That second bolded though. Explain. Really :D. I don't see how a person who mostly wanted to kill himself would reveal more information on someone with strong opinions and an actual action we can tie to them.

On March 06 2019 17:29 Holyflare wrote:
On March 06 2019 17:28 Mocsta wrote:
Hf

Some point this cycle. Preferably after ace responds. I want ur take on my ace case


I don't agree with it. Why would someone fabled for being so good at mafia make such blatantly false accusations? If he doesn't come up with some read based on those posts then yeah, probably mafia.


You definitely did not read Mocsta's post then. How many accusations did I make, to whom?, and how would you know they are false?


3 nothing posts in one.


1: no scumhunting

Ace has done no scumhunting. You can't call jumping on the obvious hf wagon and pushing that one kill scumhunting, it isn't, its hiding while posting.
In sea of thousands of 'lynch hf' posts its hard to even notice ace's posts. Can anyone remember any of them specifically? Its a camouflage.

Over the course of the entire game, he has accused 3 people of being scum.
HF: All of his posts that contain any detail at all are about hf. Most of them add nothing new to the discussion and just hang there like little grapes in a big ol basket of fruit.

Myself: He says I'm an obvious vigi shoot (I was voting to lynch him at the time). That's all

BC: Calls him scumcobbler at one point and posts a single sentence after a post he didn't like.

Its fair to say that there's no actual content here, but importantly the hf stuff gives the illusion of content, but its all just nothing.

3: Staying silent instead of defending himself

Ace ha been accused of being scum by multiple people on multiple occasions, and the only one time he has remotely defended himself was to say that he doesn't use meta in his play.
Otherwise he's perfectly happy to stay silent.
If he's town why doesn't he want people to know he's town?

Why is he acting so weird and only putting out the most basic timewasting posts?

Because he's in the mafia.





EBWOP the small text is meant to say 'or I'm dumb'.
No disrespect intended ace.

Anyway this all still stands imo.

##vote ace
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