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On March 07 2019 02:57 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 02:55 Tictock wrote:On March 07 2019 02:48 Rels wrote:
this HF situation is annoying. I think he is town. I'm not as sure as rayn and rsoul seems to be, like HF is a super strong scum and could easily do whatever he's done in this game. BUT, him not shitting up the thread feels weird if he's scum. He has the potential to throw the game into chaos easily, like he did when he got red checked in ... Himalayas probably?, saying he's the best lynch while posting a lot, and he is not doing it.
Now. IF HES SCUM AND HE LIVES AND WINS. He's gonna mock me and whoever townread him forever. I know this is a ridiculous way to handle this situation but that's waht I think.
So the solution: he msut be lynched in LYLO. I won't be there to push it probably, but if he's alive in LYLO, no matter what, lynch him. IF YOURE READING THIS DURING LYLO, LYNCH HF IF HES STILL ALIVE This is a solid approach imo, and kinda jives with where my head is at with HF. Rels can have a townie-brownie. Okay let’s take a walkthrough here of the possibilities of Rels alignment 1. Rels is mafia and hf is mafia. HF stays alive for the longest amount of time, good for mafia. 2. Rels is mafia and hf is town. Mafia has like a 100% chance of winning at lylo and Rels gets cred if hf is flipped today anyway. Where are the downsides of Relsmafia! Proposing this plan?
None, but where are your 2 situations where Rels could be town?
I know full well that Rels could be mafia and just being sensible and reasonable here. I can like where his head is at and still have a little sus about him in the back of my head.
A townie-brownie is worse than Brownie-Points... which I have TO THIS DAY never been able to trade in for an actual Brownie... this disillusionment of my childhood will forever haunt me.
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On March 07 2019 03:13 Vivax wrote:
Look at the facts wave, he KILLED PALMAR.
If he killed scum, I'd be willing to reconsider, but he killed a guy who not only posted very well and is actually able to make himself heard over HF, but also not scummy at all. On top of it you can be 100 % sure that mafia either piled their vote on HF or anywhere but Palmar.
Humm, this bolded line is actually probably very true regardless of HF's alignment.
@ Vivax, I just have to ask (I don't really mind the tirade though) do you 100% not believe a town!Flare could be bad enough to kill Palmar?
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@HF
I am tempted to ask you why you did kill Palmar, but given I haven't read much of the game it prob souldn't mean much to me.
So instead, and partially kus all I see you doing is defending yourself, who do YOU think we should lynch today and why?
Actually finished chasing the up-to-date point in the game... and it only took 1.5 hours.
Going to move on with my day and do some things for myself. Will be checking in over the day though, and yea, fuck catching up. I just give up at this point, will have to resign to trying to filter ppl later to get a better sense of things.
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On March 07 2019 03:35 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 03:29 Tictock wrote:On March 07 2019 03:13 Vivax wrote:
Look at the facts wave, he KILLED PALMAR.
If he killed scum, I'd be willing to reconsider, but he killed a guy who not only posted very well and is actually able to make himself heard over HF, but also not scummy at all. On top of it you can be 100 % sure that mafia either piled their vote on HF or anywhere but Palmar. Humm, this bolded line is actually probably very true regardless of HF's alignment. @ Vivax, I just have to ask (I don't really mind the tirade though) do you 100% not believe a town!Flare could be bad enough to kill Palmar? I wasn't lying during N1 when I thought he was town and just enjoying throwing everything into chaos and being able to influence the game to his leisure. So yea, I have entertained the thought. Ultimately though, looking at the big picture with the night kills, three conf townies wanting him dead, HF slowly starting to pile suspicion on me starting N1 and the scum fiesta I popped into today with rayn, mocsta and rsoultin all trying their hardest to deflect from a HF lynch (I know you will perceive it differently cause simply, you weren't experiencing the same context), I dismissed the thought.
Ah I see... all good, carry on...
Though following that line of thought I liked. Who do you think are the likely mafia who voted HF to be Mayor?
I will look into this myself when I come back in a couple hours.
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Sorry, never mind what I said about getting back to this game today.
Work wants me to come in and cover a shift.
Finally got some word about my roommate (hadn't really heard anything since "he is in the hospital, he is ok" from his fam), sounds like he is still suicidal and no clue when he will be released. Which tells me I am stuck in Limbo for a bit in this situation but probably need to break my lease and move out or somehow find a new roommate for a few months. Either way I think I need to take all the hours I can and go into work.
Sorry I have nothing related to the game, I probably should not have signed up with this shit going on.
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##Vote: Blazinghand
Prob wont be able to be around till basically EoD.
Mostly Sheeping, but of the 2? posts from BH I have read I got weird vibes so yea... seems fine. Only concern is that Mr. Wiggles is leading the wagon, but I have no time to look at things myself so, yea.
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Why is there a HF death link but not a Day 3 link? I think I have about a 25 hours before next deadline ya?
Good shit on the Bloody shot. Also more confirmation for me that my D1 reads were pretty good.
Am going to make some time tonight to be around. I think my RL situation is ok for a little while.
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So just having read the first chunk of Day 3 I am surprised nobody is pushing one of Mocsta or Ace.
Pretty sure they are scum buddies.
Sential is probably scum just for the way overblown explanation/defense of his townread on Ace. Or whatever the hell that post was supposed to be.
Wiggles also scum for saying he was reading/catching up and the first thing after he says is "Chez and Onegu were also off wagon D1" in response to LS's vote coloring. Literally provides no other thoughts besides this before saying he's off to watch a movie as well.
Rels would be my first solid townread into the day for having similar reads/thoughts, and he is jumping right in with a Vote on Ace. Glad to see my early brownie wasn't given away in vain. Oh and gut still tells me LS is town, but have no real reasons for it.
Still a good dozen pages or so behind, but these are my general thoughts after an hour of reading.
Chez lynch vaguely feels like a cop-out lynch because he can be hard to read, but I may have just not read enough yet to understand why people are lynching him.
##Vote: Ace
Am either going to finish reading a little later tonight, or tomorrow morning. Should be around a little tomorrow and I think even for deadline.
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On March 10 2019 00:46 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2019 21:35 Onegu wrote:
Wait nvm I though Damdred flipped green for some fucking reason.
Yeah he shot marv like 100%
Smh almost wanna town read him for this
I think I can call SL town for finding this dumbtell from Onegu and reacting like this.
I was a bit torn myself by trying-Hard confused as shit Onegu, but SL pointing this out makes me belive Onegu is town here as well.
As for Pandain, I have a hard time seeing that Shot come from scum because HF's flip gives town a decent bit of Info and it's possible he would have been lynchable today given how close he came yesturday (scum will always prefer to get a mis-lynch than just a kill). Also his reasoning on pg 321 is totally legit.
Like all of Acro, TW, and Pandain are effectively confirmed town. Even if you doubt one of these claims there is a huge pool of players to lynch from that 100% contains scum.
Humm, ok so I don't believe either of the Hatter Claims.
On March 10 2019 10:55 Fecalfeast wrote:
I am a mad matter
I would lynch this one though. My take was Chez was messing around and FF figured he could just CC due to their being so many claims happening and weird roles. This is kinda just my Gut feeling though, main thing I have to back it up is that Chez never really claimed, he just played to people's expectations from his wording. (I still have no real way of reading Chez)
Anyone know how many Scum to expect in a game like this? I might have too many scum reads atm.
Meap almost gets points for having similar reaction to me about FF, but then pushes Pandain so I have to leave him on my scum pile.
@Rels, not that I am sure about my logic on Chez/FF but what besides the claim would lead you to think FF might be town? I'm pretty sure one of them has to be scum, and there could even be a chance they both are.
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On March 10 2019 17:20 Mocsta wrote:
Ticktock
Why am i scum with ace?
Your whole opening position of lynching into Vig claims is just a stupid bad plan for town, I can't believe that would be a town!Mocsta suggestion.
The way you two interacted in thread felt off to me as well, it was far too buddy-buddy with you two practically slapping each others backs and being in very much so the same head-space.
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On March 10 2019 17:46 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 11:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 03 2019 11:34 Palmar wrote:On March 03 2019 11:32 LightningStrike wrote:
Sent is policy at best I wont lynch him unless there is no better option honestly. There is literally no better option on day 1 than policy. Those are the best lynches on day 1 because you get rid of trash on a day with no information. Getting rid of trash on a day with no information = no further information besides whether or not said trash was scum or town I'm not reading my PM, pile those votes on Ok. So you literally read your role PM right after this defiant yell in the face of Palmar's mayor run. Why? What changed your mind?
Just kus I didn't mention it, that sudden wall from Sentinal after being pushed hard for "not having read his role" really looked scummy to me (reading it today was the first I've seen it). Kus it's just a shit ton of random thoughts on people without any conclusions and it looked to me like a bunch of "work" he did to make up for getting a bunch of people so mad at him.
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So that puts me at something like...
Scum
Ace
Mocsta
[UoN]Sentinal
Mr.Wiggles
Probably Scum
FF
Meap
Null
Chez
Possibly Town
Onegu
SL
Town
Rels
LS
TW
Acro
Pandain
If I left your name off this list I have forgotten you are in this game (kus I'm not bothering to check the 1st page right now).
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On March 10 2019 17:52 Acrofales wrote:
People who know rels and rsoultin: how good is she at sussing out a scum!Rels?
And would a scum!Rels risk that, knowing he was never getting lynched D2, and was gonna kill rsoultin right after?
Having not read a bit about this role Rels has or whatever that stuff is about, I am fairly confident he is town here.
If Rsoul was willing to give Rels any sort of solid townread without a bunch of caviotes as to how he might be scum, I think you can trust her read. I can't speak to how good Rsoul was at reading Rels, but I know she would not put her paranoia about his scum game behind her easily.
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I should prob do filters at some point. Besides that I will never actually go back and read anything I have missed this game.
That just sounds like a terrible use of my time.
I'd much rather if you could just convince me you are town from this point onward.
Think I'm going to need to call it a night, I knew about daylights but somehow missed the connection that that meant I was gunna loose an hour of sleep (or just that staying up late was a bad idea).
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On March 10 2019 18:39 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2019 18:22 Tictock wrote:
I should prob do filters at some point. Besides that I will never actually go back and read anything I have missed this game.
That just sounds like a terrible use of my time.
I'd much rather if you could just convince me you are town from this point onward.
Think I'm going to need to call it a night, I knew about daylights but somehow missed the connection that that meant I was gunna loose an hour of sleep (or just that staying up late was a bad idea). What is this bullshit Ur scum read on me s based on completely false data points I gave u a hall pass and said to read 3 pages. Im ur fucking scum read and u cant be bothered... Total bullshit anf quite scummy
My read on you was based on what I read from the start on Day 3, and maybe a little bit because I don't recall having a read on you at all earlier in the game.
Calling that "based on false data points" is just straight up false.
This reaction to me telling you
I'd much rather if you could just convince me you are town from this point onward.
tells me you are not confident you can shine as town and I was likely quite correct to call you scum.
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On March 11 2019 00:16 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2019 00:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Quick dive tells me Tictock is still mafia
##Vote: Ace Why are you voting Ace? You literally just wrote an enormous post town reading Ace the other night. If you're going to change reads you have to give people some idea of why you're doing what you're doing.
Also why would Sentinel go from being somewhat confident in calling me Mafia to voting with me on Ace in the same post?
Noting that his vote puts Ace as the Lynch atm as well. Humm...
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On March 11 2019 00:33 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2019 17:51 Tictock wrote:
@Rels, not that I am sure about my logic on Chez/FF but what besides the claim would lead you to think FF might be town? I'm pretty sure one of them has to be scum, and there could even be a chance they both are.
not much, I think he's town purely because of the counterclaim. I don't see why scum fake cc there just to get Chez lynched, when Chez is a no-entity this game
uhhh, maybe?
I'm a bit dubious that there is a Hatter in this game at all, but I suppose that is a bit silly with several other "not-totally vanilla" Vigs in this game. Hatter just seems a bit too themed and potentially too powerful, depending on how the role actually was setup.
Also note FF "claimed" but did not say anything about who he bombed and offered literally no explanation or evidence. He literally just made the claim to CC Chez and thus to push Chez into the noose.
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On March 11 2019 01:02 sicklucker wrote:
Oh sent soft claiming cop with a check on ace. Very nice
This makes no sense.
Sent made a post fairly hard defending Ace near the start of Day, and is now voting Ace while calling me Mafia.
No way is he a Cop with any kind of check on Ace.
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I am totally open to a Sent lynch, his last post gave me heebies and a bit of the geebies. Pretty open to lynching anyone I put down as Scum last night.
Personally I'd rather know why you (Acro) suspect Rels rather than hear what Rayn and Rsoul thought about him. Like as much as I had faith in my Rsoul read earlier in the game, or that we know know the 2 of them were Town, does not lead to the conclusion that their reads should have more weight than your own.
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So looking at the last Vote count, I apparently forgot Tubesock, Darth, and Exo are in this game.
If people want to lynch into Question marks, is there any reason why those 3 have not been discussed at all today?
All I recall of Exo was him being a troll early on, I think I recall Darth making some posts (and not being swayed one way or another), and don't remember TS at all.
I'd filter them but have to leave in a few so kinda just surface level doing stuff atm.
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