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On March 04 2019 09:49 LightningStrike wrote:
The whole idea that I am on everyone's scum list yet noone really want to lynch astounds me. DON'T BE A PUSSY AND JUST LYNCH ME. IF I FLIP MAFIA YOU GUYS GOT YOURSELF A LYNCH. IF I FLIP TOWN RECHECK YOUR READS UNLESS YOUR MAFIA THEN YOU GOT YOURSELF THE EASIEST MISLYNCH IN 20FUCKING19. JUST LYNCH ME GUYS I DON'T GIVE A RATSASS ABOUT GETTING LYNCHED BUT IF YOU GUYS KEEP NOT TRYING LYNCH ME THEN WHY THE FUCK SHOULD I EVEN PLAY? IF I DON'T GET LYNCHED THIS DAY PHASE I WILL JUST D OTHE BARE FUCKING MINIMUM AND JUST PLACE MY VOTES AND NOT EXPLAIN THEM. FINAL POST OUTSIDE OF THE BAREMINIMUM.
Ugh.
1) you're not even close to being lynched.
2) instead of some dumbass martyring, why don't you find someone you think is scum and tell us why? So far you want to kill someone who hasn't posted at all. We aren't lynching koshi today for not playing. Then earlier you said MZ, but i don't understand that read.
On March 02 2019 12:19 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 12:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
Do you think anyone is scum, yet, ls? A little susp of MZ but nothing really struck out just want to see how he plays it out. What about you?
On March 04 2019 00:03 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 00:02 Holyflare wrote:On March 03 2019 23:14 LightningStrike wrote:I just woke up and I saw HF and Rayn were having a fight over what Rayn said was a case of HF lying about his read on Rayn o.o Dunno how to feel I think it was a clash of egos over anything else. Rels didn't post anything over night which made me very sad  Hoping Rels post today or tomorrow before EoD so I can get a proper read on him and same with Damdred. @Tina what you think of the fight from Rayn and HF? Come on man, just one scum read please? I did gvie it earlier but and it still a lean MZ.
You're not even trying, and instead of trying you're being a drama queen. Just stop whining and start playing...
Well, I messed that up. Have the post I wanted to make.
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I no longer get obvious scumvibes from WoS.
@WoS: please do read my filter. Also read trfel and finish those thoughts of yours.
Pandain is basically a lurker lynch. His post was useless, but he only made one. What makes him worse than onegu or rels?
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On March 04 2019 16:18 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 14:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lean scum on Pandain for earlier weird commitment on Ace. I'd say solid vig target like MZ just said, and hell, just to introduce some WIFOM shoot him instead of me because I might be more likely to put in some effort at some point?
Statistically speaking I feel like there must be scum amongst the bigger voices this game. Doesn't feel like Iamp to me, and I can't read Holyflare basically ever. Not sure who that leaves but I figure I'll actually resort to a filter dive at some point. HF is never scum here. If one of us is scum and the other isn't we tear each other apart. I'm not sure if both are scum...I can't remember playing scum with him but chipmunk memory. It's actually super exciting lol >< it's been forever since we both rolled town. And apart from the rsoul-focused reason, there's also how he handled the argument with rayn. Scum HF just keeps tearing and tearing, town HF backs off and tries to understand people after his stubborn argumentative streak is appeased. So.
I mostly agree with you.
Not sold on lamp. His main contribution is hounding me all game so far, so I know he is at least very very wrong. Still gotta figure out whether that's because he's being an idiot or just picked a target and stuck with it because it's easier as scum than actually reading the thread. Especially this huge one...
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On March 04 2019 16:31 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 16:24 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 16:18 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 14:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lean scum on Pandain for earlier weird commitment on Ace. I'd say solid vig target like MZ just said, and hell, just to introduce some WIFOM shoot him instead of me because I might be more likely to put in some effort at some point?
Statistically speaking I feel like there must be scum amongst the bigger voices this game. Doesn't feel like Iamp to me, and I can't read Holyflare basically ever. Not sure who that leaves but I figure I'll actually resort to a filter dive at some point. HF is never scum here. If one of us is scum and the other isn't we tear each other apart. I'm not sure if both are scum...I can't remember playing scum with him but chipmunk memory. It's actually super exciting lol >< it's been forever since we both rolled town. And apart from the rsoul-focused reason, there's also how he handled the argument with rayn. Scum HF just keeps tearing and tearing, town HF backs off and tries to understand people after his stubborn argumentative streak is appeased. So. I mostly agree with you. Not sold on lamp. His main contribution is hounding me all game so far, so I know he is at least very very wrong. Still gotta figure out whether that's because he's being an idiot or just picked a target and stuck with it because it's easier as scum than actually reading the thread. Especially this huge one... Thoughts on Palmar then?
I liked his strong drive for policy lynching sentinel. I'm a bit concerned about his lack of any follow up since his pressure worked to get sentinel to read his PM and actually play a bit. I'm still cutting him for mayor as I sure as fuck aren't cutting to get myself killed by HF.
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Fucking phone: cutting = voting.
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On March 04 2019 16:40 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 16:38 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 16:31 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:24 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 16:18 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 14:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lean scum on Pandain for earlier weird commitment on Ace. I'd say solid vig target like MZ just said, and hell, just to introduce some WIFOM shoot him instead of me because I might be more likely to put in some effort at some point?
Statistically speaking I feel like there must be scum amongst the bigger voices this game. Doesn't feel like Iamp to me, and I can't read Holyflare basically ever. Not sure who that leaves but I figure I'll actually resort to a filter dive at some point. HF is never scum here. If one of us is scum and the other isn't we tear each other apart. I'm not sure if both are scum...I can't remember playing scum with him but chipmunk memory. It's actually super exciting lol >< it's been forever since we both rolled town. And apart from the rsoul-focused reason, there's also how he handled the argument with rayn. Scum HF just keeps tearing and tearing, town HF backs off and tries to understand people after his stubborn argumentative streak is appeased. So. I mostly agree with you. Not sold on lamp. His main contribution is hounding me all game so far, so I know he is at least very very wrong. Still gotta figure out whether that's because he's being an idiot or just picked a target and stuck with it because it's easier as scum than actually reading the thread. Especially this huge one... Thoughts on Palmar then? I liked his strong drive for policy lynching sentinel. I'm a bit concerned about his lack of any follow up since his pressure worked to get sentinel to read his PM and actually play a bit. I'm still cutting him for mayor as I sure as fuck aren't cutting to get myself killed by HF. Is he who you think would make the best mayor, or just the mayor you want so you don't die? If you could pick anybody other than yourself to be mayor, who would it be?
Right now? Holyflare if he didn't want me dead.
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On March 04 2019 16:43 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 16:41 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 16:40 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:38 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 16:31 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:24 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 16:18 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 14:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lean scum on Pandain for earlier weird commitment on Ace. I'd say solid vig target like MZ just said, and hell, just to introduce some WIFOM shoot him instead of me because I might be more likely to put in some effort at some point?
Statistically speaking I feel like there must be scum amongst the bigger voices this game. Doesn't feel like Iamp to me, and I can't read Holyflare basically ever. Not sure who that leaves but I figure I'll actually resort to a filter dive at some point. HF is never scum here. If one of us is scum and the other isn't we tear each other apart. I'm not sure if both are scum...I can't remember playing scum with him but chipmunk memory. It's actually super exciting lol >< it's been forever since we both rolled town. And apart from the rsoul-focused reason, there's also how he handled the argument with rayn. Scum HF just keeps tearing and tearing, town HF backs off and tries to understand people after his stubborn argumentative streak is appeased. So. I mostly agree with you. Not sold on lamp. His main contribution is hounding me all game so far, so I know he is at least very very wrong. Still gotta figure out whether that's because he's being an idiot or just picked a target and stuck with it because it's easier as scum than actually reading the thread. Especially this huge one... Thoughts on Palmar then? I liked his strong drive for policy lynching sentinel. I'm a bit concerned about his lack of any follow up since his pressure worked to get sentinel to read his PM and actually play a bit. I'm still cutting him for mayor as I sure as fuck aren't cutting to get myself killed by HF. Is he who you think would make the best mayor, or just the mayor you want so you don't die? If you could pick anybody other than yourself to be mayor, who would it be? Right now? Holyflare if he didn't want me dead. So HF wants you dead, but you're sure HF is town? If you are Town, isn't him wanting you dead a sign he might not be town? Explain why you think he's town if you're also town.
I'm not sure he's town, but town being wrong doesn't make me suddenly think they're scum. It makes me think they're wrong. Other than that his posting has mostly been of someone trying to get information flowing and he seems interested in pulling threads and seeing where they lead. I like that.
But I'd vote HF over some others, who I have a stronger townreads on than HF, as I don't trust their judgement. I'd rather not put them in a place where they kill a townie and then we spend all of D2 arguing over whether it was a mistake or malice. I'd much rather do that with someone like HF, or especially Palmar, as I trust their ability to kill scum D1 a lot more than my stronger town reads.
And that's why I'm still voting Palmar for mayor because even if I'm not confident he's town: if he is, I trust his judgement. I trust it a lot more than HF's, whose judgement is suspect given he's currently voting to lynch a townie. That said, even with HF being temporarily (I hope) wrong, I still think his judgement is better than that of my strongest town reads.
Names of other ppl purposefully omitted, as there doesn't seem to be any reason to start giving scum strong town reads right now. They can figure that out on their own.
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On March 04 2019 15:42 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 14:20 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What do you think of the Acro case Oats?
I've been going back re-reading his posts and the case on him, but I'm having trouble making up my mind. I'll probably sleep on it and re-read again in the morning. I wanna lynch Acro yeah lol
Of course you do. I'm green and you're red. You still haven't followed a train of thought in this thread. Just throwing names out and hopping around til a train starts rolling.
Die. Shitty scummer.
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On March 04 2019 17:14 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 17:12 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 15:42 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 04 2019 14:20 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What do you think of the Acro case Oats?
I've been going back re-reading his posts and the case on him, but I'm having trouble making up my mind. I'll probably sleep on it and re-read again in the morning. I wanna lynch Acro yeah lol Of course you do. I'm green and you're red. You still haven't followed a train of thought in this thread. Just throwing names out and hopping around til a train starts rolling. Die. Shitty scummer. Quick question: From what I remember Oats is a spectacular mess as either alignment. Why are you so sure?
It's not a meta read. Last I played with Oats was like 5 years ago. I remember him actually trying as town, and just being antagonistic shit as scum, but I have no idea if he evolved. All I see is that he's shit this game, despite being present for a lot of it.
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Hey @jockmcplop:
You said this was your first game. Yet seem weirdly clued in to terminology as well as the game itself. I asked this before, but you never answered: where did you learn so fast?
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On March 04 2019 17:42 Palmar wrote:Now apologize for playing anti town. I'm probably still going to kill you for playing anti town. Just so we're on the same page.
Can't you just give him a slap on the wrist or something? Or at least tell us why his earlier shit outweighs the later stuff in deciding who to kill? Because this just sounds lazy to me. And I need you to be not-lazy so I can sheep you.
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Regarding iamp and my history. I guess I'm misremembering things. Could've sworn we played a game together where I was town and he just what on me all D1 until he came down and we win. Turns out we never played a town game together. The only game in the database that seems even remotely similar is DotA mafia, but maybe I was just oversensitive to shade being thrown at me as a survivor?
Chrono Trigger doesn't count. Was our first game together, and I still think it is the best game I ever played. I was given a 3rd party town aligned role and had to deal with a fake cop check all game long. Claim my entire role despite it being very much against my win on to do so and still won. Anyway, I got read as town by the entire town on D1, including Iamp.
GoT mafia I was scum and had him eating out of the palm of my hand all game.
https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/423047-got-mafia-lords-and-liars
DotA mafia I was a survivor, but mostly just played along with town. Iamp as a townie threw shade my way all through D1, although he did eventually calm down and waffled on my alignment a bit.
https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/514644-dota-2-mafia
This doesn't change that he's wrong now as I'm neither scum not third party this game. I'm a townie townie.
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On March 04 2019 17:55 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 17:47 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 17:42 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2019 03:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm VT btw Now apologize for playing anti town. I'm probably still going to kill you for playing anti town. Just so we're on the same page. Can't you just give him a slap on the wrist or something? Or at least tell us why his earlier shit outweighs the later stuff in deciding who to kill? Because this just sounds lazy to me. And I need you to be not-lazy so I can sheep you. He needs to repent for his sins and respect authority. I am authority. Also, I don't believe a word he says, I'm like 90% sure he's lying. I think one of two options is the real one here: a) He read his PM initially, claimed this gambit, got called out on his bullshit and is now trying to pull back from it. b) He didn't read his PM initially, and he didn't read it now. As soon as night falls he'll post "haha I didn't actually read my role PM suckers". I don't think for a second he just didn't read his role PM and then read it without question when told to. People are prideful and his turnaround was... too easy. He didn't resist enough, didn't try to spite me at all for forcing him to do this. Once you do anti town shit it takes a very, very long time for you to get back on my good side.
I'm actually on board with this. I had a similar thought when he claimed VT. However, he did proceed to then put actual effort into the game. And in particular I found his long list post resonated with what I had picked up until then. After claiming he also started going after damdred, LS and trfel in a way that felt townie.
I'm very much on the fence.
Anyway, if you kill sentinel as mayor, who are you planning to lynch? Or vice versa, if you push through the sentinel lynch, who are you going to kill?
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On March 04 2019 17:59 Holyflare wrote:
Don't mind lynching not acro, looks marginally better. This has nothing to do with his promise of voting me if I unvote him I swear.
Cool. You can be my mayor of you wanna kill Oats with me.
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On March 04 2019 18:45 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 18:40 Holyflare wrote:On March 04 2019 17:55 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2019 17:47 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 17:42 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2019 03:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm VT btw Now apologize for playing anti town. I'm probably still going to kill you for playing anti town. Just so we're on the same page. Can't you just give him a slap on the wrist or something? Or at least tell us why his earlier shit outweighs the later stuff in deciding who to kill? Because this just sounds lazy to me. And I need you to be not-lazy so I can sheep you. He needs to repent for his sins and respect authority. I am authority. Also, I don't believe a word he says, I'm like 90% sure he's lying. I think one of two options is the real one here:
a) He read his PM initially, claimed this gambit, got called out on his bullshit and is now trying to pull back from it. b) He didn't read his PM initially, and he didn't read it now. As soon as night falls he'll post "haha I didn't actually read my role PM suckers". I don't think for a second he just didn't read his role PM and then read it without question when told to. People are prideful and his turnaround was... too easy. He didn't resist enough, didn't try to spite me at all for forcing him to do this. Once you do anti town shit it takes a very, very long time for you to get back on my good side. I think there's quite a few obvious reasons Sentinel could do what he's done, as town, and none of them should make him the lynch today. bingo I thought his tone changed posirively since the claim Not worth a lynch or mayor snipe . Especially wuth turds like acro / trfwl and exo around
I've been ignoring you, but if anyone here is a turd, it's you. Your case on me is because you believe I have a lynch all liars policy, which means you didn't even read my opening post... The post that everyone in this thread is saying is oh so terrible.
I explicitly stated that I was ignoring everything that happened before it, page 23, because I got 3 pages in and had read 2 scum claims and a mason claim that was instantly shot down again. I didn't say I'd lynch all liars, I only said I'd take all future scum claims at face value. And apparently it worked, because there hasn't been a scum claim since, making the thread an infinitely better place.
But I do agree with you on trfel. Scumclaim or no, he looks decidedly turdy. But so do you.
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On March 04 2019 19:02 Palmar wrote:
Rayn looks pretty bad as well, if only for the fact he's not berating some poor soul right now.
K. I'm comfortable sheeping Palmar. Rayn not being abusive feels like he's trying to fly under the radar.
Now, if you can just vote Oats, I can afk the rest of the day 
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On March 04 2019 18:51 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 18:42 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 17:59 Holyflare wrote:
Don't mind lynching not acro, looks marginally better. This has nothing to do with his promise of voting me if I unvote him I swear. Cool. You can be my mayor of you wanna kill Oats with me. Yeah sure I'll kill + Show Spoiler [Oats] +!
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On March 04 2019 19:20 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 07:29 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 07:22 Holyflare wrote:
Acro, wave, oats, rayn, chez, ls, mocsta(?) (+a shit tonne of others that elude me) will be the lynch today. There's really so many people I could easily lynch and just not care tbh. Acro is town. Wave, oats I'm on board with. Rayn is a no. Your fight with him didn't give me scum vibes on either of you. Just made me want to tear my hair out.
Chez also a no. He seems fine. LS I can't figure out, and can't be bothered to right now as I already have enough ppl I want to lynch. Mocsta said before the game he wouldn't be around and he wasn't around. His few posts don't seem scummy, but he'd better start playing tomorrow. Mate you really are mafia lol
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On March 04 2019 19:29 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 19:27 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 19:20 Holyflare wrote:On March 04 2019 07:29 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 07:22 Holyflare wrote:
Acro, wave, oats, rayn, chez, ls, mocsta(?) (+a shit tonne of others that elude me) will be the lynch today. There's really so many people I could easily lynch and just not care tbh. Acro is town. Wave, oats I'm on board with. Rayn is a no. Your fight with him didn't give me scum vibes on either of you. Just made me want to tear my hair out.
Chez also a no. He seems fine. LS I can't figure out, and can't be bothered to right now as I already have enough ppl I want to lynch. Mocsta said before the game he wouldn't be around and he wasn't around. His few posts don't seem scummy, but he'd better start playing tomorrow. Mate you really are mafia lol ? He's pointing out you seem to have switched opinions on rayn
I have. The longer rayn goes without shitting up the thread the more I suspect him of scummy shenanigans.
That's not to say scumrayn isn't an abusive asshole. He's generally more tunnelly as scum than as town, at least in my obviously imperfect recollection. But rayn is being uncharacteristically passive and the longer it goes the more I suspect him.
Town rayn shits up the thread trying to find scum. Scum rayn shits up the thread for the sake of shitting up the thread. But rayn never doesn't shut up the thread. New behavior is weird. And probably scum weird.
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And @iamp: I'm getting to you. I need a PC tho, so hold on. But I don't think you'll like that I haven't come to a conclusion on your alignment. You're null.
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