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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 10 2019 23:35 GMT
#6921
Boom!

Ty for giving me the lynch I asked for town!

Time for a bit of tinfoil before I read what I missed: This probably means Rel's role shit would be mafia related as it is the most likely way that Mafia would recruit a traitor.

However I don't really think role related reads work very well and I kinda now heavily suspect Rels due to some other stuff (such as calling Chez v Ace as Scum v Scum, when I noted the EoD felt dead and possibly meant TvT).

Actually it's probably dinner time for me and then will come back to this game tonight. Need to think as well because Sent being a traitor could mean he didn't know anything about the full mafia team, which makes my earlier conclusion of him flipping scum clearing Ace possibly moot.
I can take that responsibility.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 10 2019 23:35 GMT
#6922
Rels do it to me if you think I'm town as I don't think I will get killed this game since I generally not a good night kill unless they think I am blue or on the right track about something/confirmed town.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 10 2019 23:36 GMT
#6923
On March 11 2019 08:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Rels do it to me if you think I'm town as I don't think I will get killed this game since I generally not a good night kill unless they think I am blue or on the right track about something/confirmed town.



Im looking at you for scum now also... Not sure yet... My first read may have been wrong...
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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 10 2019 23:37 GMT
#6924
diner time for me too, then I'll answer you TT
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 10 2019 23:37 GMT
#6925
On March 11 2019 08:35 Tictock wrote:
Boom!

Ty for giving me the lynch I asked for town!

Time for a bit of tinfoil before I read what I missed: This probably means Rel's role shit would be mafia related as it is the most likely way that Mafia would recruit a traitor.

However I don't really think role related reads work very well and I kinda now heavily suspect Rels due to some other stuff (such as calling Chez v Ace as Scum v Scum, when I noted the EoD felt dead and possibly meant TvT).

Actually it's probably dinner time for me and then will come back to this game tonight. Need to think as well because Sent being a traitor could mean he didn't know anything about the full mafia team, which makes my earlier conclusion of him flipping scum clearing Ace possibly moot.



What do you mean by the bolded part...
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 10 2019 23:38 GMT
#6926
Everyone should go back and read Iamp's Day 1
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 10 2019 23:38 GMT
#6927
On March 11 2019 08:36 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 08:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Rels do it to me if you think I'm town as I don't think I will get killed this game since I generally not a good night kill unless they think I am blue or on the right track about something/confirmed town.



Im looking at you for scum now also... Not sure yet... My first read may have been wrong...

Well I lynched scum and Tina and Damdred(i think he kept this) called me town so believe their reads on me?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 10 2019 23:39 GMT
#6928
On March 11 2019 08:38 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 08:36 Onegu wrote:
On March 11 2019 08:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Rels do it to me if you think I'm town as I don't think I will get killed this game since I generally not a good night kill unless they think I am blue or on the right track about something/confirmed town.



Im looking at you for scum now also... Not sure yet... My first read may have been wrong...

Well I lynched scum and Tina and Damdred(i think he kept this) called me town so believe their reads on me?



What scum did you lynch>?

The traitor that scum would have thought they were lynching town?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 10 2019 23:40 GMT
#6929
ONCE AGAIN TO HAMMER THIS HOME NO ONE GETS ANY TOWN CRED FROM THAT LYNCH.

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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 10 2019 23:41 GMT
#6930
On March 11 2019 08:39 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 08:38 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 11 2019 08:36 Onegu wrote:
On March 11 2019 08:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Rels do it to me if you think I'm town as I don't think I will get killed this game since I generally not a good night kill unless they think I am blue or on the right track about something/confirmed town.



Im looking at you for scum now also... Not sure yet... My first read may have been wrong...

Well I lynched scum and Tina and Damdred(i think he kept this) called me town so believe their reads on me?



What scum did you lynch>?

The traitor that scum would have thought they were lynching town?

Sent is scum though but I was confident about the lynch honestly proof:
On March 11 2019 07:58 LightningStrike wrote:
I feeling good about this lynch.

I only feel this if I 100% think I am lynching scum as town.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 10 2019 23:42 GMT
#6931
Yeah Onegu....

Most people are happy that scum got lynched.

You are in thread freaking out that the lynch will change how people are being read.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 10 2019 23:42 GMT
#6932
Pretty scummy.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 10 2019 23:42 GMT
#6933
On March 11 2019 08:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 08:39 Onegu wrote:
On March 11 2019 08:38 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 11 2019 08:36 Onegu wrote:
On March 11 2019 08:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Rels do it to me if you think I'm town as I don't think I will get killed this game since I generally not a good night kill unless they think I am blue or on the right track about something/confirmed town.



Im looking at you for scum now also... Not sure yet... My first read may have been wrong...

Well I lynched scum and Tina and Damdred(i think he kept this) called me town so believe their reads on me?



What scum did you lynch>?

The traitor that scum would have thought they were lynching town?

Sent is scum though but I was confident about the lynch honestly proof:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 07:58 LightningStrike wrote:
I feeling good about this lynch.

I only feel this if I 100% think I am lynching scum as town.



LS that means nothing. IF you are scum it means you thought you were getting a mislynch...
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 10 2019 23:43 GMT
#6934
On March 11 2019 08:42 Grackaroni wrote:
Yeah Onegu....

Most people are happy that scum got lynched.

You are in thread freaking out that the lynch will change how people are being read.



Because it is changing how people are being read.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22023 Posts
March 10 2019 23:43 GMT
#6935
On March 11 2019 08:35 Tictock wrote:
Boom!

Ty for giving me the lynch I asked for town!

Time for a bit of tinfoil before I read what I missed: This probably means Rel's role shit would be mafia related as it is the most likely way that Mafia would recruit a traitor.

However I don't really think role related reads work very well and I kinda now heavily suspect Rels due to some other stuff (such as calling Chez v Ace as Scum v Scum, when I noted the EoD felt dead and possibly meant TvT).

Actually it's probably dinner time for me and then will come back to this game tonight. Need to think as well because Sent being a traitor could mean he didn't know anything about the full mafia team, which makes my earlier conclusion of him flipping scum clearing Ace possibly moot.


This seems plausible. If Rels picks a townie, it's a new qt. If Rels picks the traitor, he gets access to the mafia qt.

He picked tina N1 cause idk, and apparently rayn N2 maybe because of this post.

On March 08 2019 04:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 04:09 Acrofales wrote:
On March 08 2019 04:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2019 04:01 Tubesock wrote:
On March 08 2019 03:45 Acrofales wrote:
On March 04 2019 23:45 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2019 23:30 Palmar wrote:
go after mocsta -> threatens to kill himself
go after conversion -> leaves the game

I may have a problem.


You’re not the problem. Neither is HF.

? If Palmar wasn't a problem then why was your vote to have him killed at this point?

I actually dived into your filter to find where you strong townread HF... and I don't see it at all. You made up your mind HF was town at the start of the game based on... nothing? And your comment after nightfall was about me, not about HF at all. In fact, it's the post that is continuously quoted here that has the whole ramble about how wonderful it would have been if HF had killed scum!Palmar.

Why are you townreading HF?



It started with agreement on a semi long stream of posts. And other small things that he did that I doubt mafia HF would bother with.

While I certainly will semi ignore someone I town from time to time, HF’s townread can disappear quite fast. I’m always watching what he does.

I’ve been called contrarian many times. But I truly believe that him sticking to what he said he’d do (shoot Palmar) is far more likely to come from town HF. I do think MafiaHF would have never pushed Palmar and instead gone after one of the other prominent towns and killed them instead. Rayn he could have killed at the time as most were lukewarm on him at the time. Or whoever.

Lol if he killed rayn he 100% dies today

Not if rayn is scum. But that'd be an amazing bus.

i am super scum though.

Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 10 2019 23:44 GMT
#6936
On March 11 2019 08:43 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 08:42 Grackaroni wrote:
Yeah Onegu....

Most people are happy that scum got lynched.

You are in thread freaking out that the lynch will change how people are being read.



Because it is changing how people are being read.

Y is that important
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 10 2019 23:45 GMT
#6937
We lynched scum woo hoo. Its not something that we can read his filter and get any information from.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 10 2019 23:46 GMT
#6938
Dead Scum = Red
Dead Town = Green
Alive with claim = Blue
(My only edit was changing Day2 AMG vote to "Pandain")


Day One final Vote Count

Mayor
Holyflare (16): Tubesock, Holyflare, rsoultin, Ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast, ediamperfection, Damdred, ExO_, Trfel
Palmar (12): Palmar, Ticktock, Meapak_Zipphh, WaveofShadow, Grackaroni, Conversion, Alakaslam, LightningStrike, Vivax, BloodyC0bbler, Acrofales, Blazinghand
iamperfection (4): darthfoley, Tumblewood, Koshi, Oatsmaster
Chezinu (1):Chezinu
Onegu (1): Onegu
rsoultin (1): Rels
Not Voting (0):

Lynch
Trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood,Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion
Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike
Conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley
Acrofales (2): Damdred, Tictock
iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, Blazinghand
Koshi (1): Ace
Fecalfeast (1): Pandain
Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh
LightningStrike (1): Rels
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Mr. Wiggles (1): Palmar



Day Two final Vote Count

Blazinghand (13): Mr. Wiggles, Rels, Holyflare, [UoN]Sentinel, rsoultin, Pandain, Mocsta, LightningStrike, WaveofShadow, Tictock, Tubesock, ExO_, Tumblewood
Holyflare (9): Blazinghand, sicklucker, BloodyC0bbler, Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, Ace, darthfoley, Acrofales, Vivax
Acrofales (2): raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast
Ace (1): Jockmcplop
rsoultin (1): Onegu
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Grackaroni,
Mr. Wiggles (1): Meapak_Ziphh
Not voting (2): Damdred, Chezinu



Day Three final Vote Count

[UoN]Sentinel (10): Pandain, Grackaroni, Mocsta, Ace, Ticktock, Acrofales, LightningStrike, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Meapak_Ziphh
Ace (7): Oatsmaster, Rels, Jockmcplop, Chezinu, [UoN]Sentinel, darthfoley, Vivax
Chezinu (4): Alakaslam, Fecalfeast, Onegu, sicklucker
Not voting (2): ExO_, Tubesock
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 10 2019 23:47 GMT
#6939
On March 11 2019 08:44 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 08:43 Onegu wrote:
On March 11 2019 08:42 Grackaroni wrote:
Yeah Onegu....

Most people are happy that scum got lynched.

You are in thread freaking out that the lynch will change how people are being read.



Because it is changing how people are being read.

Y is that important



Because I think people dont realize that this flip doesnt mean what it appears to mean.

I am being the good townie and making sure people understand.

And I didnt vote him because I didnt want to vote with pandain if I am being 100%

Plus I think chez is still scum.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 10 2019 23:47 GMT
#6940
On March 11 2019 08:46 Mocsta wrote:
Dead Scum = Red
Dead Town = Green
Alive with claim = Blue
(My only edit was changing Day2 AMG vote to "Pandain")


Show nested quote +
Day One final Vote Count

Mayor
Holyflare (16): Tubesock, Holyflare, rsoultin, Ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast, ediamperfection, Damdred, ExO_, Trfel
Palmar (12): Palmar, Ticktock, Meapak_Zipphh, WaveofShadow, Grackaroni, Conversion, Alakaslam, LightningStrike, Vivax, BloodyC0bbler, Acrofales, Blazinghand
iamperfection (4): darthfoley, Tumblewood, Koshi, Oatsmaster
Chezinu (1):Chezinu
Onegu (1): Onegu
rsoultin (1): Rels
Not Voting (0):

Lynch
Trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood,Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion
Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike
Conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley
Acrofales (2): Damdred, Tictock
iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, Blazinghand
Koshi (1): Ace
Fecalfeast (1): Pandain
Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh
LightningStrike (1): Rels
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Mr. Wiggles (1): Palmar



Show nested quote +
Day Two final Vote Count

Blazinghand (13): Mr. Wiggles, Rels, Holyflare, [UoN]Sentinel, rsoultin, Pandain, Mocsta, LightningStrike, WaveofShadow, Tictock, Tubesock, ExO_, Tumblewood
Holyflare (9): Blazinghand, sicklucker, BloodyC0bbler, Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, Ace, darthfoley, Acrofales, Vivax
Acrofales (2): raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast
Ace (1): Jockmcplop
rsoultin (1): Onegu
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Grackaroni,
Mr. Wiggles (1): Meapak_Ziphh
Not voting (2): Damdred, Chezinu



Show nested quote +
Day Three final Vote Count

[UoN]Sentinel (10): Pandain, Grackaroni, Mocsta, Ace, Ticktock, Acrofales, LightningStrike, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Meapak_Ziphh
Ace (7): Oatsmaster, Rels, Jockmcplop, Chezinu, [UoN]Sentinel, darthfoley, Vivax
Chezinu (4): Alakaslam, Fecalfeast, Onegu, sicklucker
Not voting (2): ExO_, Tubesock

Chezinu actually looks much better in light of this
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