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On March 02 2019 22:06 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 21:59 Trfel wrote:I actually kinda want to lynch sicklucker. He's currently contributed almost no reads (if I recall correctly, dislike of Acrofales and a town-to-meh read on rsoultin). Yet he took the time to defend himself verbosely from the slightest suspicion of rsoultin, which feels highly overdefensive, but his argument was defending his townread of rsoultin while his read, just previously posted, seemed far less committed: On March 02 2019 17:08 sicklucker wrote:
rsoultin is town dawg. maybe. na. maybe. na Does that make sense? It doesn't look like he's trying to find mafia, just trying to exist. lol i totally missed where he tr me >< maybe na maybe na idk he hasn't done the thing i associate with town sl's if you want the truth though i'm more weirded out by tube
to clarify, the thing i associate with town sl's is a bit more solid than just voting to lynch me lol ><
my issue with tube is not only was his entrance crap but he only came out again when i pointed it out (same time i named sl) and since hasn't done a thing. active lurker much?
also, is it bad that i'm wanting to association read you town because of rayn who could easily be scum? i agree your later posts look townier but i don't understand his townreading you for your early posts
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On March 02 2019 23:45 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 14:21 Chezinu wrote:On March 02 2019 14:13 Alakaslam wrote:On March 02 2019 13:52 Chezinu wrote:On March 02 2019 13:47 Alakaslam wrote:
Hi.
Just got off shift at sushi bar.
Gonna go home but, do not vote me as mayor Hey hey hey! 🍣🍙 Who would you recommend for mayor? I want a read on Holyflare and then I will decide. He is my first pick, newbie game brotherhood + respect fear. Next would be Blazinghand with the same stipulations but he tends to be less able to handle power than he seems. It just hit me: Blazinghand is like Donald trump. He can convince but he doesn’t always back it up- so people claim he never does, which is untrue. I have been breadcrumbing a read on him all game.. where ya reading? + Show Spoiler +Onegu
Palmar
Blazinghand
Tictock
Oatsmaster
WaveofShadow
ExO_
rsoultin
sicklucker
Vivax
tubesock
Pandain
darthfoley
Mocsta
Koshi
BloodyC0bbler
Chezinu
Fecalfeast
Holyflare
LightningStrike
Acrofales
raynpelikoneet
Damdred
Tumblewood
Jockmcplop
[UoN]Sentinel - random
Conversion - cause
Trfel
Meapak_Ziphh
Mr. Wiggles
Ace
Alakaslam
iamperfection
Rels
Grackaroni
Who is Kush Jr.?!??! can you explain your six scum reads? I don't get it.
<3
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On March 02 2019 23:54 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 23:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I feel confident in this so far:
Vivax
Rayn
Jockmcplop
I think that Rayn is reading MZ's posts wrong but I believe that he's actually trying to reason out MZ's motivations for the posts that he makes. I don't think MZ's posts have been scummy.
I think Vivax's posts are very very likely to come from town Vivax.
There is one person that I have a gut feeling is scum but it's not worth getting into yet and I want to see more posts. is that me? what's the point of hiding the name? Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 21:26 rsoultin wrote:On March 02 2019 21:22 Vivax wrote:On March 02 2019 21:11 rsoultin wrote:On March 02 2019 21:02 Vivax wrote:On March 02 2019 20:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 02 2019 20:51 Vivax wrote:
@ Rayn
MZ said explicitly that he's accepting convs scum claim as a joke, but he wanted to know why he put in those names anyway.
Why is that a reason for you to question his motives?
And why does Conversion instantly get on the defensive about it when MZ said it isn't a reason to scumread him? Read again, MZ never said Conversion isn't mafia. He said quite the opposite, and i understood perfectly what Conversion was pushing him about. That being said i think that particular answer later on where he explains his stance on Conversion can come easily come from either town or scum, which is why i dropped the conversation about it. MZ was poking him about it as he said himself and that's how I was reading the entire thing. It's just you and conversion that seemingly are construing it as a scumread. riddle me this: if you believe me to be mafia, in what world would my first post in a rather dull thread be exposing any of my teammates? if you were to believe I was mafia, as a townie you wouldn't care about my list as you'd have to believe I'm playing against mafia win condition by unnecessarily exposing my teammates for a joke post that wasn't even funny
if you believe I am town, then the order doesn't matter cause I'm just making a dumb joke And this quote from Conversion isn't something a townie would ever write. "Hey I made a joke post about me being mafia. Let me explain why if it weren't a joke post, it wouldn't make me mafia" Okay, you can be in my non-lynch pile. This feels like a vivaxy thing to focus on though I can't say I read his post the same way you do. I'd actually call his post a potential strawman argument. "Why did you pick those names?" "Why do you care why I picked those names? It's a joke."I agree with MP that names come from somewhere, joke or not -shrugs- That's what I'd rather expect from a townie making a joke. And not try to use your joke post in an argumentation for you not being mafia. Screaming agreement with you there. It's just I don't read the intention behind Conversion's posting as trying to make an argument that makes him not mafia? And since neither of us are him I don't know how we can know his intent for sure :/ ok this is cool, but if you're in agreement with Vivax, do you still want to lynch Chezinu over me? your trail is kind of soft here, unlike Vivax who is hard for "Conversion is mafia" Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 21:59 Trfel wrote:I actually kinda want to lynch sicklucker. He's currently contributed almost no reads (if I recall correctly, dislike of Acrofales and a town-to-meh read on rsoultin). Yet he took the time to defend himself verbosely from the slightest suspicion of rsoultin, which feels highly overdefensive, but his argument was defending his townread of rsoultin while his read, just previously posted, seemed far less committed: On March 02 2019 17:08 sicklucker wrote:
rsoultin is town dawg. maybe. na. maybe. na Does that make sense? It doesn't look like he's trying to find mafia, just trying to exist. There's a ton of people doing this in my perspective, so could you go a little deeper in explaining why you picked sicklucker?
Still pushing for a Chez lynch.
I'm in agreement with Vivax in theory that someone using that type of joke post to say they're town is scummy. And disagree that's what you were doing. Don't have enough to go on to have a strong read on you.
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On March 03 2019 00:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Stale takes by this point but I have town reads on TT and myself and I'm behind vigging Exo
@rsoultin I'm pretty sure Chez shitposts in every thread regardless of alignment. What makes him scum in this particular case?
Yeah I don't know what to tell you other than it's not the same and also the "Chez shitposts" claim is in my opinion exaggerated or maybe oversimplified? I've never felt a town Chez in my games isn't contributing. So.
On September 30 2017 15:18 Chezinu wrote:
My first impressions upon my initial reading post-wow was that some players spoke as if they are your great genuine friends speaking honestly without insecurity. A very relaxed atmosphere. Then there was this guy who spoke quite differently. He was hiding his inner being. Deflected with questions that I have no interest in reading or comprehending. He name was Damerion. I skimmed and some say he is new. But this doesn't sit well with me as a justification. I liked Oats initial reads.
^First post of his last town game for example. That's not a shitpost to me. The one before that he's banging on about the Chez rule (which I actually don't find terribly alignment indicative for him). I'll admit that the Palmar's Purge game looks pretty shitposty in the beginning but that seems to be attributable to mechanics. Then we see this post:
On August 19 2016 14:39 Chezinu wrote:
Ok! SL cause you so awesome, I'll tell you what I didn't bother telling others. Cause you know, you give free space infos. So I gives infos too!
Onegu -nukes-> Superbia (An USSR Citizen!!!)
Chezinu -nukes-> Onegu (A dictator of a foreign regime that invaded attacked up first)
this same foreign dictator tried running for General Secretary during our elections. We of course took notice of him. Before he was reprimanded, he managed to apply for an USSR passport (He was denied) and launched a nuke at our dear USSR space pilot.
While we were dealing with this southern enemy, USSR was invaded by a lunatic. Your dear General Secretary whom has defended this land has taken cover in a secret hide out at an undisclosed location. The USSR has taken action against the crazed invader. We hope to see his shortfall in the coming hours. At this, it may be due to the sacrifice our your dearly beloved leader.
Nuclear launch has already been detected.
Which is all to say that to me I expect posts like the above two from a town Chez even if he's staying in-character and he doesn't give me the same glossy this is a town Chez feels this game.
Though I fully realize I could 1) be wrong and 2) if Chez is scum he's not the only one.
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On March 03 2019 00:38 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 15:54 Chezinu wrote:On March 02 2019 15:47 Alakaslam wrote:
F I V E , it is declared. 7
Fecalfeast iamperfection Vivax ExO_ I'm not too sure about that... It is declared
-pokes- give me more slamtheman. i'm warming up to you
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viva/ls/hf/tt/iam are no-lynches for me today barring something unforeseen
chez/rayn would be interesting flips i think
if we're lynching into nothing posters my preference is still tube
the rest is a wash of leans that i'm not finding very important atm. liked ff when he was posting though. maybe he should get bumped up into my no-lynches
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On March 03 2019 01:10 iamperfection wrote:
Who the fuck is tina
Me. Most of the players know my real name.
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The experiment commences! I love experiments.
Slam's in my no-lynch list today, too.
And I'll grant HF the TT read cause that's totally what I did as scum I think a few times? For indeterminate feels reasons I disagree but that's kinda par for the course for me.
Sentinel can hang if Chez/rayn aren't in the nooses.
Jock's MZ reasoning makes me want to townread him.
On March 03 2019 03:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 23:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I feel confident in this so far:
Vivax
Rayn
Jockmcplop
I think that Rayn is reading MZ's posts wrong but I believe that he's actually trying to reason out MZ's motivations for the posts that he makes. I don't think MZ's posts have been scummy.
I think Vivax's posts are very very likely to come from town Vivax.
There is one person that I have a gut feeling is scum but it's not worth getting into yet and I want to see more posts. I don't like posts like this. I see little value in just giving a slew of green reads and leaving out your one "gut feeling" Its easy to call people town, especially so if you're mafia because you know you're right. And there's very little point in hiding your scum reads. Bring it up and make them talk more. That's how you actually catch scum.
Also, this post from MZ...while I'm glad he's focusing on something new, he's not saying anything here. I don't know if you think Grack is scum or you're just lecturing him on how to play @.@ Which is funny cause I also wasn't a huge fan of Grack's post.
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On March 03 2019 04:57 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 04:55 Alakaslam wrote:On March 03 2019 04:51 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 03 2019 04:50 Alakaslam wrote:On March 03 2019 04:36 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 03 2019 04:31 Alakaslam wrote:
It’a high time Rayn focused me down or I caught him Is this from a meta read on him? Largely, yes, not entirely but how did you know? You mentioned earlier a lack of aggression compared to usual. What else are you basing your suspicion from? His baseless suspicion of me. I am low hanging fruit to a lot of players here, including Rayn. As town, most people know to pretty much ignore me early on, especially if I am doing the pure flavor stuff I was. Yet I was a target all of a sudden. That is a weaker case than the meta read though as I was unusual here. He also didn’t lead with it, he just hopped on rsoul’s mild suspicion. Notice I actually townread her, yet not him
Lol tbf I'm pretty sure rayn mentioned you first and I was the one aggreeing that you didn't look towny this game.
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may just plop MZ down with rayn and chez for the noose actually, and yes it's almost entirely for the tone encapsulated by the "huh..." that makes me just feel like he wants to agree without sinking in this pretty carnivore teeth
carry on
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On March 03 2019 06:39 Holyflare wrote:
Vote oats.
I mean yeah, it struck me as dead wrong when he said it, too. And you latching onto this makes me even happier about my townread on you, but what makes him scum rather than bad?
What I personally find more curious is he was quoting the voting thread but then his reads didn't seem to have anything to do with people voting?
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On March 03 2019 06:50 Trfel wrote:
@sicklucker What?
@Vivax: Sure, go for it.
Also it's easier to just vote for Oatsmaster than look at his meta so I'll just be doing that.
rofl >< no-lynch pile
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Well, I'm happy to lynch Oats with you actually but I still want my Chez lynch if I can get it. Which with the way people talk about Chez is probably not happening but a girl can dream?
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On March 03 2019 07:07 rsoultin wrote:
##vote Oatsmaster
Yeah yolo lol ><
Chez can be second lynch! \o/
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On March 03 2019 10:09 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 10:02 kitaman27 wrote:
Day One Vote Count
Mayor
Holyflare (4): Tubesock, Alakaslam, Holyflare, rsoultin
Chezinu (2): Chezinu, Chezinu, sicklucker
FecalFeast (1): Fecalfeast
Vivax (1): Grackaroni
[UoN]Sentinel (1): [UoN]Sentinel
Tumblewood (1): Ace
Oatsmaster (1): Oatsmaster
BloodyC0bbler (1): BloodyC0bbler
Ticktock (1): Acrofales
Palmar (1): Palmar
iamperfection (0): Chezinu, rsoultin
Lynch
Oatsmaster (4): Holyflare, Trfel, rsoultin, Alakaslam
Meapak_Ziphh (3): Conversion, Chezinu, Tictock
Acrofales (1): sicklucker
Chezinu (1): rsoultin
iamprefection (1): BloodyC0bbler
Grackaroni (1): Acrofales
ExO_ (0): Jockmcplop
Raynpelikoneet (0): Alakaslam
[UoN]Sentinel (0): Holyflare
Holyflare is currently leading the Mayor race and Oatsmaster is set to be lynched.
The deadline is Tuesday, Mar 05 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in . rsoul has 2 lynch votes
As it should be, FF, as it should be
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baddumdum
+ Show Spoiler +Probably not going to keep my vote on Oats and willing to acknowledge that Chez has magic not gonna get lynched D1 brown powers so back to the experiment XD
Liking Sl more, df okayish but hard to tell with so little, Grack a disappointment with all that buildup to a tumblewood scumread way to be anticlimactic man, FF just a townish lean that's getting grayer.
Putting pressure on Sent seems pointless when he's backed himself into a corner to perform starting N1 unless the policy bit is to just discourage anyone from doing that ever?
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On March 03 2019 16:26 Acrofales wrote:
K, 1 1/2 hours of morning posts before I'm sailing all day again.
Summary of the night:
##mayor Palmar
zzz
this is why the sent push is pointless
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On March 03 2019 16:32 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 16:28 rsoultin wrote:On March 03 2019 16:26 Acrofales wrote:
K, 1 1/2 hours of morning posts before I'm sailing all day again.
Summary of the night:
##mayor Palmar zzz this is why the sent push is pointless Why is this pointless? Walk me through it. I disagree with lynching sent (although I do want him dead). I'm all for putting that responsibility squarely on Palmar's shoulders. And no, waiting til n1 to start playing the game seriously is not acceptable as town.
36? players. You either believe him about his role pm blahness or don't. If you don't, by all means push it. If you do it's boring. People won't lynch Chez on the assumping he can be vig'd. So can this guy.
And mostly it's an easy thing to agree with and excuse not doing anything else, innit?
Though props for not being that guy at least.
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On March 03 2019 17:01 Chezinu wrote:
phew,,, I am so glad the mafia has back down on me since I'm playing nice with MZ. I really feel a huge pressure off of me now. I feel quite free.
So with that said.
hey rsoultin!
Do you want to be friends?
depends, you ready to slake my thirst?
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On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 16:48 rsoultin wrote:On March 03 2019 16:32 Acrofales wrote:On March 03 2019 16:28 rsoultin wrote:On March 03 2019 16:26 Acrofales wrote:
K, 1 1/2 hours of morning posts before I'm sailing all day again.
Summary of the night:
##mayor Palmar zzz this is why the sent push is pointless Why is this pointless? Walk me through it. I disagree with lynching sent (although I do want him dead). I'm all for putting that responsibility squarely on Palmar's shoulders. And no, waiting til n1 to start playing the game seriously is not acceptable as town. 36? players. You either believe him about his role pm blahness or don't. If you don't, by all means push it. If you do it's boring. People won't lynch Chez on the assumping he can be vig'd. So can this guy. And mostly it's an easy thing to agree with and excuse not doing anything else, innit? Though props for not being that guy at least. People won't lynch Chez because they don't think he's obviously scum. So if you want to lynch Chez make a better case than he's RPing the brown, because if you actually read his posts there's some decent amount of effort into understanding the game there, IMHO. Sent is different. Let's assume he's telling the truth. In that case the only ppl who know his alignment are scum. If he's scum then they'll try to save him and if he isn't they'll try to kill him. Lynching him is not the best option, because there's far too much confusion in that wagon to get any information. Now let's assume he's lying. I can't think of a town reason for doing this, and so he's scum. The rest is similar to above. Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1.
I'm bored with the Chez thing anyway zzz His Rping wasn't shiny at all and I don't care if I'm the only one who thinks that's significant, but I'm willing to see if he brings the shine especially since he has the equivalence to plot armor. I want my experiment to come back. Rsoul lacks patience.
So our basic disagreement appears to be how to use the mayoral role. I'm more in favor of figurehead who does our bidding. But fine. I'm doubting this town gets organized enough to use it appropriately anyway and we can always turn it into a vote for whoever is running on the platform of who you want lynched, which gives similar information.
Lynching one person to determine another's alignment on D1 is kinda dumb imo?
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