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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 04 2019 18:57 GMT
#2120
On March 04 2019 21:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Am I the only one who didn't find the palmar - - - >mocsta intsraction rude at all?

I thought it was really weird. There wasn't any kind of insult from Palmar, he just said that his posting was scattered and uncontributive and that it seemed like it could come from mafia, which was somehow interpreted as abuse.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 04 2019 19:04 GMT
#2124
On March 05 2019 03:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On March 05 2019 03:45 Acrofales wrote:
On March 04 2019 04:47 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 04 2019 00:32 Holyflare wrote:
On March 04 2019 00:10 Vivax wrote:
HF are you jealous of Palmar or something. Let him be the mayor, you should know yourself enough to know that you act upon the weirdest impulses at EoDs.


Not jealous, no. I see the same guy advocating the same lynch as me yet people jumping on his bandwagon and citing that the reason they're doing it is that they want sentinel mayor lynched like it's some revelation that only Palmar has brought to the thread. That's suspicious.

In the process of catching up now, Palmar's policy lynch on Sentinel was simply a lot more noticeable/forceful than yours.


On March 04 2019 05:40 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 04 2019 05:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 04 2019 05:33 Grackaroni wrote:
I think we should lynch Tubesock for this post:

On March 03 2019 18:23 Tubesock wrote:
On March 03 2019 17:52 Acrofales wrote:
Going out again til late. Let's lynch Track. If not him, at least someone in this list:
2) Fecalfeast
8) Oatsmaster
9) WaveofShadow
11) sicklucker
17) ExO_
19) [UoN]Sentinel
20) Grackaroni28) Trfel
30) Mr. Wiggles


Why isn’t Palmar, Blazinghand, Rels, onegu, pandain, darthFoley, etc on this list too? Are these that much different than straight policy lynches?

I think he asked this question to make Acro seem scummy for pushing low-content posters, and that conflicts with the way that Tubesock has been playing the game so far.

On March 03 2019 17:59 Tubesock wrote:
On March 03 2019 13:47 Tictock wrote:
Ok, I came, I saw, I did some things. Seems like ppl are not around so gunna do other things. May check in once more before bed but I am pretty sure I am not going to fully read the stuff I missed.

I'd like someone who is wanting to lynch oats to convince me why he is scum.

Similarly as to why ppl are voting HF for mayor.

If deadline was right now/soon I would push for Meap or Grack to lynch.


You know HF was going to mayor lynch [UoN]Sentinel before it was cool right? So, the difference between HF and Palmar is HF has actually played so far and given plenty of opinions. And exactly like Chezinu said, latching onto this Sentinel policy is right up Palmars alley if both were scum. And absolutely worth it. Plus Palmar doesn’t have to do anything else, talk about skating by.

Vote HF for mayor for the Sentinel kill, ##VOTE: Palmar so he actually plays. Town win wins.



On March 04 2019 01:07 Tubesock wrote:
I’m voting Trfl. Maybe he will come play.

If Tubesock is town I don't see why he should be questioning Acro's lynch choices considering his own so far.

Multiple people, myself included, have called acro out on going for low-content posters and your case hinges upon it. Does that affect your read at all?

Nobody else that I recall was attacking Acro for going after low content posters while only pushing people for not posting, and also I dislike the post because I think it's an accusation disguised as a question rather than other people who have just called Acro shit.

Though my process for choosing which filters to read came from which filters I felt were mid-sized and blendy, and I'm probably coming to yours pretty soon too to be honest.


On March 04 2019 05:52 Grackaroni wrote:
Also I think Tumblewood is mafia.

It's hard for me to explain but when he plays as town he has controversial opinions and he almost always sticks his foot in his mouth. I know some people like him for his aggressive early post against MZ but I remember when I played mafia with him he entered the thread in the same way, and it gave me bad vibes that he didn't have any posts early on that weren't serious like that.

Also I disliked the list post he made.


On March 04 2019 10:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 04 2019 09:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2019 08:25 darthfoley wrote:
Interested on MeapZiph's take on iamp after the last 30 pages.

@Meap are you still seeing red?

On March 03 2019 16:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 03 2019 15:50 Chezinu wrote:
On March 03 2019 15:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 03 2019 15:35 Chezinu wrote:
On March 03 2019 15:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
[quote]
Brown Chez, always brown.


A wise choice. Well you see. I didn't quite like your coloring skills earlier. You paint my greens and blues red!!!

If you said I was red, then you would explain your coloring skills to assume I'm wrong on my reads.. If you went green, then you would insult my own coloring skills. With brown, you have passed.

Ahh Chez, I may not be as active as I once was but I learned many years ago not to paint you red or green. You are brown and embody it every game. I'm saddened to know that we disagree on the colors of others though. I feel comfortable with some of what I've colored but others I am not so sure of. Who in particular do you you think I've gotten wrong so far?


The iamp and HF. Thought you were dissing me

It's gonna be hard to get me to budge on iamp, his level of effort while still being semi active in the thread just smells like someone who is trying to active lurk his way into escaping attention. He's a solid red for me right now.

I have HF as green, mostly because I thought the way he came after me during the whole conversion discussion was from a townie mindset. And he brought up some good points about Oats which I hadn't fully considered until he mentioned it. Do you color him red?


Not as strongly as I was earlier, I just finished reading everyone's filter which took me a solid 6ish hours so I'm going to take a quick break and clear my head. In the mean time y'all can feel free to check out my notes I created. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JaeEcpko74-Vdm8iN3r1TWsKBW8HITOXUhutGH3bSY8/edit?usp=sharing
How you interpret the information there is up to you but I'm just giving out the raw data. Later tonight I'll compile some thoughts based off of that but I'm kinda burnt out now

The one thing I know for sure is that I need someone to vigi the shit out of Blazinghand and possibly Pandain as well.

That's pretty cool.

I want to update my colorings

+ Show Spoiler +

Town

Lightningstrike
Oatsmaster
Jockmcplop
Vivax
Rsoultin
Iamperfection

Scum lean

TW
TS
Rayn - I changed my mind about Rayn. He had good presence at the start of the game but I don't like what he's been pushing recently and HF legitimately has a good point when he says that Rayn has been talking through people.
BH - for not playing but avoiding doing anything too attention grabby so far like random lynch.



If you only read the first page of Grack's filter it's pretty easy to come away thinking he's shit scum not trying to understand the game. But the second page is full of stuff like this. He's showing he's thinking along with the game and reading. He then stopped again, and intermittent behaviour when starting to come under suspicion into lurking under the radar is pretty scummy, but there are better targets.

That said, Oats making an actual case against Grack instead of telling me to fuck off was unexpected. I need people who have played with Oats more to coach me here, as I really don't want to dig into his meta, but does a scum Oats listen to his strongest scumread? Or does he just tell him to go fuck himself? I really like the very short little interaction Oats and I had.

I'm open to lynching trfel instead.

I don’t really see how is second page isn’t just useless activity pretending to find scum. He’s still reading because scum need to find stuff still, blues and 3rd parties but his scumreads don’t feel like his heart is in them and keeping a reads list is a good way not to contradict himself later on, especially as he appears to do nothing with that reads list and like doesn’t even post it for us to read, he spoilers it, subconsciously hiding it from plain sight

OK.
1) You can't distinguish between somebody looking for mafia and third party.
2) I did not write a reads list to help myself keep track of my reads and then spoiler it because I actually only wanted it to be read by myself.

3) You actually aren't wrong about my scum reads. I'm kind of lukewarm on my TS read and feel pretty good about my TW read but bad about my chances of lynching him.

At the moment I just need to sift through a lot of meh players and see who the best choice out of them is.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 04 2019 19:04 GMT
#2125
Also Palmar is town.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 04 2019 19:16 GMT
#2136
Oats look at this guy:

On March 03 2019 05:17 Tumblewood wrote:
ok i have finally caught up. herein lies the deal:
+ Show Spoiler [acrofales] +

On March 02 2019 16:17 Acrofales wrote:
I just started reading and 3 pages in stopped again. From this point onwards, I will be operating on a lynch all liars policy, because holy shit, mafia claims are the dumbest things I have ever seen. So yeah. Claim mafia beyond this point and I'll assume it's the truth. I also refuse to read anything else up to here, unless someone specifically points me somewhere in the first 23 pages worth reading.

Now can we keep the postcount reasonable? This isn't a mini, and I'm going sailing all weekend and have a deadline on Monday.

Thanks.

Acrofales, the townie.

this post sucks bum & i hate it

+ Show Spoiler [rsoul] +

On March 02 2019 17:14 rsoultin wrote:
It means you're doing the things you know I look for when I'm trying to get a read on you, which you've admitted to doing as mafia when I'm in a game. So while it makes me want to townread you I can't be as sure as I'd like to be :/

It's mostly tonal with Trfel. Seems really stiff at the start of the game with LS, even disregarding the smilies. There's a caveat here that I think will work itself out before EoD, though.

i like the caveat part of this post because it shows some real gears turning behind the reads. everything else from her has been whatever
(i will be interested eventually in what the caveat is)

+ Show Spoiler [exo] +

the way he entered the thread paints a target on his back in such a pointless and ridiculous way that it seems unlikely from mafia. however i hate it so i will be postponing townread until actual contribution

+ Show Spoiler [tictock] +

On March 02 2019 14:30 Tictock wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 02 2019 10:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On March 02 2019 10:01 Trfel wrote:
Hi, I am mafia

I'm running for mayor and my platform is to lynch Trfel

Meapak_Ziphh, hereafter referred to as Meap, is the first possible mafia sighting.

+ Show Spoiler +

On March 02 2019 10:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On March 02 2019 10:16 Holyflare wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:06 Trfel wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:01 Trfel wrote:
Hi, I am mafia

Cool who are your buddies?
Can't you just check the QT?

Also, to unvote in the mayor election you unmayor someone? That sounds pretty crazy xD And before anyone asks the inevitable question, there are seven mafia in the game, so we don't have to argue about it, cool?


No self respecting town person reads setup.

You're mafia.

This is outstanding analysis and I agree with it 100%


Meh, HF's post is NAI for me (seems more like a general poke, than a real accusation) but my gut really seems to think Meap is mafia all the more for this.

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On March 02 2019 10:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On March 02 2019 10:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
Vote me for mayor. I will be the arbiter of truth and justice

But how do we know that you're town here?

For anyone to know that I'm town at this point, that person would have to be scum. I'm here to find scum and lynch them, not prove that I'm town by any means that aren't incidental to my stated goals.

Do you know if youre town?

This is prob just kus Rayn and I have very different personalities/outlooks, but these sort of questions bug me. It's really an accusation that FF is slipping that he is actually mafia, but it's very implied that FF means "anyone else" as he is unlikely to be thinking about his own position. So probably just a weak poke from Rayn, but I dislike. Mostly kus what sort of response do you expect from this question? How can it help you?




Meap seems very Mafia to me on this page, he even does this "Guide me Senpai" thing with HF that I hate. + Show Spoiler +
On March 02 2019 10:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 10:18 Holyflare wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:17 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:16 Holyflare wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:06 Trfel wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:01 Trfel wrote:
Hi, I am mafia

Cool who are your buddies?
Can't you just check the QT?

Also, to unvote in the mayor election you unmayor someone? That sounds pretty crazy xD And before anyone asks the inevitable question, there are seven mafia in the game, so we don't have to argue about it, cool?


No self respecting town person reads setup.

You're mafia.

He already claimed mafia though didn't you read the opening of the game?


No self respecting townie reads the whole thread.

Sheeeeiiiit this is more quality analysis I can get behind

Is lightingstrike scum too HF?

Gut wants me to vote Meap, so vote Meap I shall.

the commentary on meapak is just not good. i have no idea how he gets a scumread out of the first quoted post, and the second is strange because he attributes HF's post as a likely joke but not meapak's even though he is just affirming HF's joke. also the fact that this is labeled as a gut read despite giving reasoning anyway.
i do like this though:
On March 02 2019 14:44 Tictock wrote:
Willing to give solid townleans on Trefl and LS, and a minor townlean on Damdred thus far. I've also got a bit of a gutread on FF at this point, but I'm not sharing it yet.

i came into this thinking i was gonna make a scum case on him but after actually reading the rest of his walls of text i'm not feeling it anymore. nothing else gives me the sketchy feeling

+ Show Spoiler [iamp] +

townish because he has some nice takes in these two posts:
On March 02 2019 16:19 iamperfection wrote:
wtf acro i read it again it and its even more useless the 2nd time

On March 03 2019 04:35 iamperfection wrote:
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On March 03 2019 04:25 Tubesock wrote:
On March 03 2019 04:20 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On March 03 2019 04:05 Tubesock wrote:
There isn’t anyone I want to lynch.

If I were mayor I’d sheep Holyflare most likely for the 2nd lynch.

I'm thinking I'd like to lynch you!

Or are you making this guy mayor, Ace?


That’s fair. I can vote HF for mayor sure. I don’t see how you could get me wanting Ace mayor out of what I said.

how in the world can you think HF is for sure town?

that is all.

+ Show Spoiler [trfel] +

On March 02 2019 13:48 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 11:07 Conversion wrote:
I'd be happy to lynch him as of 9:07 PM EST though
Sorry I'm not understanding, what specifically changed?

In other news, my reason to be suspicious of raynpelikoneet was completely wrong, whoops. Never mind me.

i think he's town for the second part of this post. just feels very odd to post as mafia. that's it

+ Show Spoiler [rayn] +

i like him, he is clearly prodding people with purpose

+ Show Spoiler [ls] +

town

+ Show Spoiler [jock] +

he seems very image conscious in his posts on meapak
On March 02 2019 11:13 Jockmcplop wrote:
Is it me or is meapak throwing suspicion around without actually trying to get any information? Looks like that is the only story of the last couple of pages

On March 03 2019 03:39 Jockmcplop wrote:
I don't wanna be focusing all on one guy but MZ is contradicting himself again while bringing up the same old discussion that derailed the first 2 pages.

however i like this:
On March 02 2019 20:15 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On March 02 2019 20:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jockmcplop can you explain to me why you don't have a read on me (or whatever sticks out means here?) when my top scumread atm is your top scumread for basically the same reasons which i stated before you did?


I think its your posting style more than anything. Our reads are the same but that doesn't mean anything if you're being objective about it.
Instinctively I read you very town but something about the way you post bugs me enough to want to see a bit more before I read.

i feel that there is a though process going on behind this. this places jock merely on the watch list

in summary acro and jock are scumleans, everyone else listed is either townlean or town


What are your thoughts?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 04 2019 19:19 GMT
#2139
On March 05 2019 04:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 03:57 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 04 2019 21:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Am I the only one who didn't find the palmar - - - >mocsta intsraction rude at all?

I thought it was really weird. There wasn't any kind of insult from Palmar, he just said that his posting was scattered and uncontributive and that it seemed like it could come from mafia, which was somehow interpreted as abuse.

So what’s your conclusion buddy?
Or more empty words!”?

You're annoying.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 04 2019 23:38 GMT
#2550
What's happening?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 04 2019 23:44 GMT
#2569
HOLYFLARE/PALMAR

WHAT IS YOUR CURRENT MAYOR POLICY?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 04 2019 23:44 GMT
#2575
I don't mean to be a shitter but I just came home and there is 30 more pages than before.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 04 2019 23:47 GMT
#2589
Blazinghand is scum by the way. He said he was too busy to play but then he showed up within an hour of getting votes and has sat here throughout the last hours trying to WIFOM people out of voting him.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 04 2019 23:48 GMT
#2595
Nobody should be voting for HF as mayor if he's killing Palmar.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 04 2019 23:51 GMT
#2613
On March 05 2019 08:49 Ace wrote:
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On March 05 2019 08:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Wait. I go to fucking work then sleep and come back to this clusterfuck? Why for the love of god are we lynching Palmar of all fucking people. You may hate his fucking guts right now but of all the "vet" or big name players in this game hes actually put in more effort than anyone fucking else.

Do you disagree with his reads? Likely. Do I? On some of them yes. But the guy is clearly playing for the town. Have any of you guys played with him? or remember games with him? He does this shit consistently with town. He polarizes everyone in the game for or against him to get reads / generate discussion. Sometimes it may just be because hes being an asshole or believes hes better than you.

So no I am not down for lynching him -_-


If you were going to off an old school player at this point just to do it you'd be better served with offing Me, Ace, BH, or MZ tbh. We all have done basically nothing in comparison.

We as an entire group have literally designed a day that lets mafia just slide by and do sweet fuck all and based on thread sentiment could get away with it for way way way too long. Sure you could after the fact try and harass suspects for reasons but basically everyone can regurgitate the same horseshit and you get borderline nothing.

So. HF get the fuck off Palmar. You may hate his fucking guts / think hes the worlds shittiest player but the guy is clearly attempting to help the town at this point and has done far more to push that then most in this game.


How about instead we look into this pool.

Onegu
Why?
1) Says he will be try hard. Is clearly not thus is not living up to what he said he would attempt.
2) Reads currently given have no substance to them
3) Clearly skirting by the activity requirements
4) Basically just has posts with 0 content


Iamperfection

I have already brought him up in my last analysis post. Basically it is very similar however to expand on it.

On March 04 2019 05:40 iamperfection wrote:
On March 04 2019 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
My response is more or less going to be impacted by your response to my question.

i probably wont give my full reads until tomorrow.

i think your probably town though cause i think your confused by my play and are trying to figure out my alignment


Since I have been waiting now for awhile to see what reads he has. Let me sum it up for you. He hasn't posted any of value. Why? Because he hasnt posted any reasonable reasons.
He has also asked for what? 3 vig shots now on players
Someone like this whos played as long as he had know better. This isn't behaviour IMO of a townie. Its scum.



This post reeks. Why would you pop up near EOD to post this? You even segregated players and faked outrage. Heavy FoS here.

+1 to this.

This looks very similar to a fake-outrage scum post that I've seen BC make before.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 04 2019 23:58 GMT
#2665
On March 05 2019 08:55 Holyflare wrote:
all these mafia coming out of the woodwork right at eod

onegu, bh, exo, bc

what?

Please don't choose something stupid.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 05 2019 00:37 GMT
#2690
You have to be kidding me.

I'm voting HF.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 05 2019 00:44 GMT
#2734
Mafia didn't last minute switch away from Blazinghand. In fact there's probably more mafia bussing BH than on the Trfel wagon from how BH has played.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 05 2019 00:53 GMT
#2767
On March 05 2019 09:43 iamperfection wrote:
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On March 05 2019 09:42 Blazinghand wrote:
Man I really should have just RNGed

the time you have wasted shitting the thread playing like a jester you could have read the thread twice.

You are mafia stop posting

So heavy lifting these BOXES.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 05 2019 01:10 GMT
#2797
On March 05 2019 09:56 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 05 2019 09:55 iamperfection wrote:
On March 05 2019 09:52 marvellosity wrote:
On March 05 2019 09:51 iamperfection wrote:
what do you think of bh marv?

all I could see was a policy lynch

not a bad one based on the posts I saw


no

its like he took a dare in the scum qt saying he could act as a jester and still not get lynched.

I mean sure, that's one explanation

not the only one though right? was he your best?

genuinely interested why you or anyone didn't like Palmar's read on Sentinel

because I loved it

I went back and forth on the Sentinel read. The problem was that I asked myself what I would have done if I had been the non-role PM reading troll, which was not difficult for me to imagine. The question I should have asked is whether I am more or less of an asshole than Sentinel!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 05 2019 22:41 GMT
#3627
I'm making a list and checking it twice.

We're going to find out who's naughty and nice.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 05 2019 22:46 GMT
#3628
Not really so much though I'm on page 90 lol.

Rayn a while ago you quoted this to Palmar:

On March 03 2019 20:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar, if you are town, go seriously read Acrofales' filter and actually look at what he says. Then look at his case on Grackaroni and read the posts after that again.


What did you mean by this? I didn't notice anything different about Acro's case on me than MZ/TT/Oats etc.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 05 2019 23:41 GMT
#3643
On March 06 2019 08:40 LightningStrike wrote:
This nk anticipation is killing me. BTW on mobile guys.

It's Iamp and Vivax methinks.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 05 2019 23:47 GMT
#3647
On March 06 2019 08:43 LightningStrike wrote:
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On March 06 2019 08:41 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 06 2019 08:40 LightningStrike wrote:
This nk anticipation is killing me. BTW on mobile guys.

It's Iamp and Vivax methinks.

Why you think those two?

Just putting in my guess. Those are very Grackaroni night kills. Kill off the really townie people that won't be read as scum because they can't play as scum.
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