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On March 11 2019 01:32 sicklucker wrote: Also i finnaly read the op. Its says closed setup... Which means only the roles in the list are in the game. But thats clearly not true with day vig. Bastard mods No, that is not what closed means. Closed means the mods don't tell you what roles are in the game. I don't consider dayvig a normal role though, so kita is a bastard mod  And with that, I announce that I'm back!!! 6 hours to sort out this lynch, and it looks like we're lynching lurk today. Top candidates seem to be: Ace Chez and an outside shot on Sentinel. I'd like to nominate Rels to the list, but I am gonna have to read rsoultin and rayn's filter before we do that, and that is quite the read :/ | ||
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Rels figures quite prominently among her "we need to kill" list until other people started convincing her that neighbourizer is a town role. I don't know if I still believe that with how weird this game has gotten. I'm really starting to feel a Rels lynch, guys. I will filter him next and assume neighbourizer is a null role. | ||
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His only real scum case is Ace... and he made it *after* Ace was catching a load of flak and was gonna be pushed today. Other than that I don't even know who he thinks is scum... he's just sorta following along. Then again, I thought the exact same about damdred and he flipped town. At least in this case I also have rsoul and rayn thinking there was something off about his play tho, and they do know him well, apparently. So we can lynch: Ace. He's being Ace. Fucked if I know if he's being town ace or scum ace. He's mostly just coaching people and doing not much on his own. Blehhh. Chezinu. He's... well... chezinu. Normally by now the chezinus of this world have done something to show their alignment, but got nothing so far. Blehhhh. Rels. Lurker. Under pressure from the night kills. Not clear enough pressure for scum to just shoot them to wifom town into killing them (both had him as null reads, leaning scum), but I could see a paranoid Rels directing shots at them. His filter is blehhhhh. I prefer going off the last read. Gonna make sense of sentinel. There was a real point I wanted to make about knowing when he read his PM, but he read it earlier than he claimed he did, which means I need to rethink it. I beleive the point is still valid, but give me some time to pull those brainthreads and make sure my thoughts still make sense. For now, I think we should kill Rels. I feel that kill more than ace or chezinu. | ||
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On March 11 2019 02:48 Rels wrote: rayn thought I was town all day long, even before my role was outted, how do that work with that theory? He wasn't happy with you at all. He doesn't mention you much, but he was frustrated that you didn't scumhunt with him. Point me to the town read plz. | ||
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On March 11 2019 02:46 LightningStrike wrote: Acro if you read Tina's last list she had nailed BC maybe we should listen to Tina on DF although I don't know her reasoning why she was scumreading him unless she posted in her filter. I haven't paid any attention to DF at all this game. You're right that I probably should. | ||
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On March 11 2019 03:05 Rels wrote: If you don't know who I think is scum you're lying about having read my filter. Interesting. Maybe quote your own filter where you scumread someone other than BH, and today Ace. | ||
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That's my hypothetical for why a scum!Rels shoots rayn. I have been trying to wrap my brain around why scum shoot rayn in general. He was making the thread an unhappy place for many people, and that seems like a good thing for scum, even if nobody was actually strongly scumreading him. rsoul and wos make sense: obvious townies making reads and being happy. but rayn was just angry and destructive (although it might just have been me who felt like that being on the ass end of his tunnel all game). He was also wrong on his tunnel. Why shoot him at all? | ||
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On March 11 2019 03:14 Rels wrote: sure then if I really have to prove I'm not "coasting by" today, here is me defending two people that are generally being scumread I think you read my filter with a "Rels is scum" mindset and that blinded you. I read that on MZ, but I guess I read it differently, as calling one thing scummy doesn't seem to go anywhere. Chezinu, well, is being chezinu. The fact that you think you're scumming him for being chezinu is well, bleh. Townreading people doesn't count. Especially innocent children like jock. The fact that you couldn't townread BH for the same reasons is troubling tho. | ||
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nothing about him screams scum at all. but nothing about him screams townie either. he's just blegh. | ||
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On March 11 2019 03:38 Rels wrote: Where should it go? I've read his filter and thought it was scummy for the 2 reasons I've said. But Ace is the person I want to lynch first, and Ace is getting lynched. That's not true. I usually never know how to read people that RP like Slam and Chez, and I kinda just hope their alignments become known by other means like them being roles, or being vigd / checked, etc. But here, Chez tries to sneakily say he's hatter without really saying it. It's an obvious red flag for me, and not at all similar to the other RP he's done ??? What same reasons ? 1 - my read on Jock mainly comes from the fact that it's his first game, that doesn't apply to BH 2 - my scumread on BH came from his martyring D1, that doesn't apply to Jock ??? BH had a very obvious town post (his post when he thought he was being lynched). He was as close to an innocent child as you can get. Yet you persisted in scumreading him all through D2 (you weren't the only one tho). | ||
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Ok. Let's kill sentinel. | ||
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The rest of his play has been bleh. So many ppl have been able to hide in the HF/BH stuff. Some legitimately, some scummily. I'd put sentinel in the latter group, but haven't had time to sort out the earlier discrepancy I was mulling on earlier. Something in his filter didn't make sense if he had read his role PM when he claimed VT. But can't figure it out anymore. | ||
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On March 11 2019 07:42 Tumblewood wrote: all i'm saying is we're up to at least 3, all we need is 4 more, and there are probably 4 people active who don't like slam I'd rather lynch sentinel or Ace than slam. | ||
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On March 11 2019 08:11 Onegu wrote: Stop stop stop. Mafia traitor is someone who is mafia but mafia dont know they are mafia. Mafia thought they were getting a mislynch here boys From the role PM I think Mafia knew about sentinel, and sentinel knew he was scum. The only thing he didn't know was who his teammates were. Given his D1 fears of TMI it almost seems as if the role was custom made for him. This was a good lynch. | ||
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Normal Guidelines A Traitor is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, as long as it: is Mafia-aligned knows the identities of all of the Mafia team identity is not known by the Mafia team, although they should know a Traitor exists cannot be recruited to join the rest of the Mafia team, and (unless Bulletproof) is killed if shot is endgamed if all other Mafia are dead gives a "guilty" result to Cops, an "innocent" result to Gunsmiths, and a "Traitor" result to Role Cops If you want a Traitor that cannot be killed by its team, make it a Bulletproof Traitor. (A Traitor that investigates as though they were town is not Normal, because the Godfather role is not Normal.) Roles like this should return full names (e.g. Bulletproof Traitor) to a Role Cop investigating them. On this forum, godfather is considered normal, so who knows what a "normal" traitor is here: we're following Kita's playbook, which seems like a bastard version of "normal". Anyway, seem dangerous to do any association reading for sentinel. As for my role, Ace and mocsta are being idiotic. In what works does mafia ever want to shoot inactives? So either you think I'm lying about how my role works, or you aren't using your brain. Mocsta, Ace, do you think I'm lying about my role? | ||
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