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On March 02 2019 19:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No thats not what MZ said initially.
In other news, rsoultin do you believe acrofales and/or exo to be mafia?
Both could be, 'specially since I remember ExO being an overserious blowhard with an ego to rival mine (yours, HF's, yada yada). Acro I don't know from Adam and my reservation on him is it's pretty blatantly anti-town for scum trying to hide when he can just say he's not gonna be around and do bugger all.
And then you ask me, but rsoul, ExO is also doing a blatantly anti-town thing, which is where I refer you to how I remember him being and remind the world that there is a difference between looking at something from a point of no information vs. some prior experience.
I don't care if either gets lynched.
Still want to lynch Chez ^^
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On March 02 2019 16:59 Tubesock wrote:
I like Chez because he’s entertaining.
I would love for a couple things in this game to be true. We RNG lynch Blazinghand, and that Chezinu hasn’t played with LightningStrike and falls to the rule of LS. Although that’s just the troll in me. I think Chez and LS are townie.
In other news, another zzz that can go in the acro/exo/mp maybe truffle pile yup. And SL. He's not trying to lynch me.
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also there's entirely too little damdy in this game :/ and he's still on my bad list with HF for coming to Amsterdam without a word to me or lex
baaaaad list
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On March 02 2019 19:38 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 19:30 rsoultin wrote:On March 02 2019 16:59 Tubesock wrote:
I like Chez because he’s entertaining.
I would love for a couple things in this game to be true. We RNG lynch Blazinghand, and that Chezinu hasn’t played with LightningStrike and falls to the rule of LS. Although that’s just the troll in me. I think Chez and LS are townie. In other news, another zzz that can go in the acro/exo/mp maybe truffle pile yup. And SL. He's not trying to lynch me. I don’t think I’ve ever tried to lynch you? Who are you talking about?
Sicklucker is SL
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On March 02 2019 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Bottom line; I completely agree with iamp about vigging those two guys so far but i have absolutely no idea why that should make him town, and if he isn't town(read) then he should not be mayor.
I'm reading him town because his tone has a mix of uncertainty/aggression that I tend to like in a vacuum and in general his reads are aligning with mine (and no exo and acro aren't the only things he's weighed in on). Could I be wrong about someone I don't even remember playing with before? Sure.
But if someone else wants my vote for mayor that someone else is going to have to make me all warm and cushy inside.
@HF I suppose you can be forgiven if it's an anniversary thing. Maybe.
Random weirdball read HF is being lazy enough to be more likely town than scum lol >< go figure
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Also, even though I'm using the mayor slot to demonstrate where my townreads are, it's pretty irrelevant. Regardless of who we pick they should just be held accountable for lynching who town wants to lynch -shrugs-
Or are you suggesting rayn that we just leave that to the mayor and not simply use it as a second lynch mechanic?
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On March 02 2019 19:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 19:51 rsoultin wrote:
Random weirdball read HF is being lazy enough to be more likely town than scum lol >< go figure Yeah i agree. Also Slam doesn't look town at all.
Sadly no, he doesn't :/ I love playing with town slams
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On March 02 2019 19:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ofc not, but i am suggesting leave the trash to vigilantes and try to actually gain some information from the mayor lynch discussion.
That's why I want to lynch Chez?
I'm not sure how voting for Iam for mayor prevents us gaining information from the mayor lynch because I'm viewing it as #1 and #2 plurality lynches rather than who Iam has talked about vigging?
You're perfectly free to disagree with me on my Iam read and try to get more information out of him, though. I'm not preventing you.
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On March 02 2019 20:09 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 19:44 rsoultin wrote:On March 02 2019 19:38 Tubesock wrote:On March 02 2019 19:30 rsoultin wrote:On March 02 2019 16:59 Tubesock wrote:
I like Chez because he’s entertaining.
I would love for a couple things in this game to be true. We RNG lynch Blazinghand, and that Chezinu hasn’t played with LightningStrike and falls to the rule of LS. Although that’s just the troll in me. I think Chez and LS are townie. In other news, another zzz that can go in the acro/exo/mp maybe truffle pile yup. And SL. He's not trying to lynch me. I don’t think I’ve ever tried to lynch you? Who are you talking about? Sicklucker is SL ah i mean i tried to lynch you a few times but im not sure it ever worked out very well or you were actually mafia. Im a reformed man why cant people change. You have gone on about this in are last games too but I think we were both town? ITs almost like its a bad read by you formed from are first game together like 900 years ago where I wanted to lynch you as town vs town. but maybe thats just my opinion. me thinking you town does not make me mafia is what im getting at. at most its something I would do only slightly more as mafia. so leave me alone for it squints eyes in acid
You be you, boo. You're in my 'I don't care if they're lynched' pile, which is not in danger from an rsoul crusade unless I have no 'let's lynch 'em pile'.
And I will acknowledge that you may be right and it's an old, bad read.
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Pft. Chez was just such a non-entity in his roleplay posts. I don't care about the roleplay. It's just if he's engaged enough in the thread to roleplay, and also to try to communicate with other players and make comments about the game, I expect something shiny and smart from him. It doesn't have to be new.
But what he was giving were non-committal turds and I don't even know what that spoilered lynch list or ls emoticon thing was about.
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Like for me it breaks down like this:
You've got trolling people. You've got lurking people. You've got lazy people. You've got some overly aggressives that aren't giving me warm fuzzies (MP). You've got people I'm not sure about who when I'm not sure about them have a nasty habit of being scum (Rayn) but because he's burned me so often I'm not sure if that's not where the uncertainty's coming from.
And then you have seemingly excited to play, I respect the shit out of his intelligence Chez playing but not saying anything interesting. That first group can hide a lot of bad town play. But doing something without doing anything ticks off my scum meter to a higher degree.
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On March 02 2019 20:33 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone cares my reads align with rsoul. I think. Chez suspicious. Guy posting catch ups was it trfel? Seemed mediocre and not any revelations. Iamp piggybacking me suspicious. Don't care if I like what he's said about people non-posting. That's easy to do.
Didn't like rayn that much tbh. He seems to not be saying much but talking in walls of text and circles.
I dunno I'm sorry I'm a bit shit right now but whatever.
Lol >< after what I just said this is not improving my confidence in him.
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On March 02 2019 17:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 17:14 rsoultin wrote:
It means you're doing the things you know I look for when I'm trying to get a read on you, which you've admitted to doing as mafia when I'm in a game. So while it makes me want to townread you I can't be as sure as I'd like to be :/
It's mostly tonal with Trfel. Seems really stiff at the start of the game with LS, even disregarding the smilies. There's a caveat here that I think will work itself out before EoD, though. Surprise i do things that i do as town as mafia aswell?  Fine, i got completely different read on him from the beginning and then he also did a trademark town Trfel thing later.
Also this post bothers me. It's downplaying the fact that he legitimately knows I look for him engaging with people to get reads, and that there are at least two scum games (one where I was probably the town leader and another where there were enough other strong town players that if I went ham on him he'd probably be safe unless they independently scumread him) where he catered his play specifically to how I read him.
In earlier scum games he'd yell at people and it would feel more like rayn against the world.
So this post bothers me because it's a de-escalation that's almost submissive while at the same time trying to downplay something we both know he's done. "Oh, really, as scum I do some of the same things as town?"
And I know I just made a wall of text that means probably nothing to anyone but yeah -_- if anyone wants to know where some of the leeriness is coming from there you go. (Also he hasn't called me scum yet for having different reads than him >>)
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What are your reads that don't matter BC?
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On March 02 2019 21:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 20:58 rsoultin wrote:
What are your reads that don't matter BC? Why the hell would I post a read that doesnt matter? If i don't have someone directly pinned as green/red they are neutral until a) I have time to filter dive them and get a better idea of a read b) They do something that pushes them one way or the other. Talking about my "42%" chance to be scum read as an example serves basically no fucking point.
lol you sound angry. So we're your only reads. Cool. Would have expected that rather than 'only important' reads, but whatevs. When you get some more I might be able to make a judgement call on you beyond we clearly do not see the game the same way.
And, to be fair, I get why people aren't townreading Iam but whatever I'm gonna be the hipster. I can also see you not getting the nuances I'm talking about with Chez. I can even perhaps see me either being wrong on Chez's contributions even while trolling. So the only real thing you've given me is being pretty defensive for seemingly no reason when I just asked you a question.
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On March 02 2019 21:02 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 20:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 02 2019 20:51 Vivax wrote:
@ Rayn
MZ said explicitly that he's accepting convs scum claim as a joke, but he wanted to know why he put in those names anyway.
Why is that a reason for you to question his motives?
And why does Conversion instantly get on the defensive about it when MZ said it isn't a reason to scumread him? Read again, MZ never said Conversion isn't mafia. He said quite the opposite, and i understood perfectly what Conversion was pushing him about. That being said i think that particular answer later on where he explains his stance on Conversion can come easily come from either town or scum, which is why i dropped the conversation about it. MZ was poking him about it as he said himself and that's how I was reading the entire thing. It's just you and conversion that seemingly are construing it as a scumread. Show nested quote +riddle me this: if you believe me to be mafia, in what world would my first post in a rather dull thread be exposing any of my teammates? if you were to believe I was mafia, as a townie you wouldn't care about my list as you'd have to believe I'm playing against mafia win condition by unnecessarily exposing my teammates for a joke post that wasn't even funny
if you believe I am town, then the order doesn't matter cause I'm just making a dumb joke And this quote from Conversion isn't something a townie would ever write. "Hey I made a joke post about me being mafia. Let me explain why if it weren't a joke post, it wouldn't make me mafia"
Okay, you can be in my non-lynch pile. This feels like a vivaxy thing to focus on though I can't say I read his post the same way you do. I'd actually call his post a potential strawman argument.
"Why did you pick those names?"
"Why do you care why I picked those names? It's a joke."
I agree with MP that names come from somewhere, joke or not -shrugs-
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On March 02 2019 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I see what you're saying Vivax but i think you are blowing it out of proportion. Conversion is very very likely to be town.
Because...?
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On March 02 2019 21:22 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 21:11 rsoultin wrote:On March 02 2019 21:02 Vivax wrote:On March 02 2019 20:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 02 2019 20:51 Vivax wrote:
@ Rayn
MZ said explicitly that he's accepting convs scum claim as a joke, but he wanted to know why he put in those names anyway.
Why is that a reason for you to question his motives?
And why does Conversion instantly get on the defensive about it when MZ said it isn't a reason to scumread him? Read again, MZ never said Conversion isn't mafia. He said quite the opposite, and i understood perfectly what Conversion was pushing him about. That being said i think that particular answer later on where he explains his stance on Conversion can come easily come from either town or scum, which is why i dropped the conversation about it. MZ was poking him about it as he said himself and that's how I was reading the entire thing. It's just you and conversion that seemingly are construing it as a scumread. riddle me this: if you believe me to be mafia, in what world would my first post in a rather dull thread be exposing any of my teammates? if you were to believe I was mafia, as a townie you wouldn't care about my list as you'd have to believe I'm playing against mafia win condition by unnecessarily exposing my teammates for a joke post that wasn't even funny
if you believe I am town, then the order doesn't matter cause I'm just making a dumb joke And this quote from Conversion isn't something a townie would ever write. "Hey I made a joke post about me being mafia. Let me explain why if it weren't a joke post, it wouldn't make me mafia" Okay, you can be in my non-lynch pile. This feels like a vivaxy thing to focus on though I can't say I read his post the same way you do. I'd actually call his post a potential strawman argument. "Why did you pick those names?" "Why do you care why I picked those names? It's a joke."I agree with MP that names come from somewhere, joke or not -shrugs- That's what I'd rather expect from a townie making a joke. And not try to use your joke post in an argumentation for you not being mafia.
Screaming agreement with you there. It's just I don't read the intention behind Conversion's posting as trying to make an argument that makes him not mafia? And since neither of us are him I don't know how we can know his intent for sure :/
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On March 02 2019 21:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 21:17 rsoultin wrote:On March 02 2019 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I see what you're saying Vivax but i think you are blowing it out of proportion. Conversion is very very likely to be town. Because...? Because he sounds town the same way he sounded town in Secret Hitler game, especially in his argument with happykrogan.
-headdesks- too lazy to look that up and the likelihood it helps me with either his or your alignment even if i do is just so minimal pffft
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On March 02 2019 21:59 Trfel wrote:I actually kinda want to lynch sicklucker. He's currently contributed almost no reads (if I recall correctly, dislike of Acrofales and a town-to-meh read on rsoultin). Yet he took the time to defend himself verbosely from the slightest suspicion of rsoultin, which feels highly overdefensive, but his argument was defending his townread of rsoultin while his read, just previously posted, seemed far less committed: Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 17:08 sicklucker wrote:
rsoultin is town dawg. maybe. na. maybe. na Does that make sense? It doesn't look like he's trying to find mafia, just trying to exist.
lol i totally missed where he tr me >< maybe na maybe na
idk he hasn't done the thing i associate with town sl's
if you want the truth though i'm more weirded out by tube
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