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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 02 2019 19:51 GMT
#702
On March 03 2019 04:50 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 04:36 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 03 2019 04:31 Alakaslam wrote:
It’a high time Rayn focused me down or I caught him


Is this from a meta read on him?

Largely, yes, not entirely but how did you know?


You mentioned earlier a lack of aggression compared to usual.
What else are you basing your suspicion from?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 02 2019 19:58 GMT
#708
On March 03 2019 04:55 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 04:51 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 03 2019 04:50 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 03 2019 04:36 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 03 2019 04:31 Alakaslam wrote:
It’a high time Rayn focused me down or I caught him


Is this from a meta read on him?

Largely, yes, not entirely but how did you know?


You mentioned earlier a lack of aggression compared to usual.
What else are you basing your suspicion from?

His baseless suspicion of me. I am low hanging fruit to a lot of players here, including Rayn. As town, most people know to pretty much ignore me early on, especially if I am doing the pure flavor stuff I was.

Yet I was a target all of a sudden.

That is a weaker case than the meta read though as I was unusual here.


hmmm
That doesn't convince me at all.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 02 2019 20:20 GMT
#720
On March 03 2019 05:17 Tumblewood wrote:
ok i have finally caught up. herein lies the deal:
+ Show Spoiler [acrofales] +

On March 02 2019 16:17 Acrofales wrote:
I just started reading and 3 pages in stopped again. From this point onwards, I will be operating on a lynch all liars policy, because holy shit, mafia claims are the dumbest things I have ever seen. So yeah. Claim mafia beyond this point and I'll assume it's the truth. I also refuse to read anything else up to here, unless someone specifically points me somewhere in the first 23 pages worth reading.

Now can we keep the postcount reasonable? This isn't a mini, and I'm going sailing all weekend and have a deadline on Monday.

Thanks.

Acrofales, the townie.

this post sucks bum & i hate it

+ Show Spoiler [rsoul] +

On March 02 2019 17:14 rsoultin wrote:
It means you're doing the things you know I look for when I'm trying to get a read on you, which you've admitted to doing as mafia when I'm in a game. So while it makes me want to townread you I can't be as sure as I'd like to be :/

It's mostly tonal with Trfel. Seems really stiff at the start of the game with LS, even disregarding the smilies. There's a caveat here that I think will work itself out before EoD, though.

i like the caveat part of this post because it shows some real gears turning behind the reads. everything else from her has been whatever
(i will be interested eventually in what the caveat is)

+ Show Spoiler [exo] +

the way he entered the thread paints a target on his back in such a pointless and ridiculous way that it seems unlikely from mafia. however i hate it so i will be postponing townread until actual contribution

+ Show Spoiler [tictock] +

On March 02 2019 14:30 Tictock wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 02 2019 10:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 10:01 Trfel wrote:
Hi, I am mafia

I'm running for mayor and my platform is to lynch Trfel

Meapak_Ziphh, hereafter referred to as Meap, is the first possible mafia sighting.

+ Show Spoiler +

On March 02 2019 10:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 10:16 Holyflare wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:06 Trfel wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:01 Trfel wrote:
Hi, I am mafia

Cool who are your buddies?
Can't you just check the QT?

Also, to unvote in the mayor election you unmayor someone? That sounds pretty crazy xD And before anyone asks the inevitable question, there are seven mafia in the game, so we don't have to argue about it, cool?


No self respecting town person reads setup.

You're mafia.

This is outstanding analysis and I agree with it 100%


Meh, HF's post is NAI for me (seems more like a general poke, than a real accusation) but my gut really seems to think Meap is mafia all the more for this.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 02 2019 10:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 10:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
Vote me for mayor. I will be the arbiter of truth and justice

But how do we know that you're town here?

For anyone to know that I'm town at this point, that person would have to be scum. I'm here to find scum and lynch them, not prove that I'm town by any means that aren't incidental to my stated goals.

Do you know if youre town?

This is prob just kus Rayn and I have very different personalities/outlooks, but these sort of questions bug me. It's really an accusation that FF is slipping that he is actually mafia, but it's very implied that FF means "anyone else" as he is unlikely to be thinking about his own position. So probably just a weak poke from Rayn, but I dislike. Mostly kus what sort of response do you expect from this question? How can it help you?




Meap seems very Mafia to me on this page, he even does this "Guide me Senpai" thing with HF that I hate. + Show Spoiler +
On March 02 2019 10:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 10:18 Holyflare wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:17 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:16 Holyflare wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:06 Trfel wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:01 Trfel wrote:
Hi, I am mafia

Cool who are your buddies?
Can't you just check the QT?

Also, to unvote in the mayor election you unmayor someone? That sounds pretty crazy xD And before anyone asks the inevitable question, there are seven mafia in the game, so we don't have to argue about it, cool?


No self respecting town person reads setup.

You're mafia.

He already claimed mafia though didn't you read the opening of the game?


No self respecting townie reads the whole thread.

Sheeeeiiiit this is more quality analysis I can get behind

Is lightingstrike scum too HF?

Gut wants me to vote Meap, so vote Meap I shall.

the commentary on meapak is just not good. i have no idea how he gets a scumread out of the first quoted post, and the second is strange because he attributes HF's post as a likely joke but not meapak's even though he is just affirming HF's joke. also the fact that this is labeled as a gut read despite giving reasoning anyway.
i do like this though:
On March 02 2019 14:44 Tictock wrote:
Willing to give solid townleans on Trefl and LS, and a minor townlean on Damdred thus far. I've also got a bit of a gutread on FF at this point, but I'm not sharing it yet.

i came into this thinking i was gonna make a scum case on him but after actually reading the rest of his walls of text i'm not feeling it anymore. nothing else gives me the sketchy feeling

+ Show Spoiler [iamp] +

townish because he has some nice takes in these two posts:
On March 02 2019 16:19 iamperfection wrote:
wtf acro i read it again it and its even more useless the 2nd time

On March 03 2019 04:35 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 04:25 Tubesock wrote:
On March 03 2019 04:20 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On March 03 2019 04:05 Tubesock wrote:
There isn’t anyone I want to lynch.

If I were mayor I’d sheep Holyflare most likely for the 2nd lynch.

I'm thinking I'd like to lynch you!

Or are you making this guy mayor, Ace?


That’s fair. I can vote HF for mayor sure. I don’t see how you could get me wanting Ace mayor out of what I said.

how in the world can you think HF is for sure town?

that is all.

+ Show Spoiler [trfel] +

On March 02 2019 13:48 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 11:07 Conversion wrote:
I'd be happy to lynch him as of 9:07 PM EST though
Sorry I'm not understanding, what specifically changed?

In other news, my reason to be suspicious of raynpelikoneet was completely wrong, whoops. Never mind me.

i think he's town for the second part of this post. just feels very odd to post as mafia. that's it

+ Show Spoiler [rayn] +

i like him, he is clearly prodding people with purpose

+ Show Spoiler [ls] +

town

+ Show Spoiler [jock] +

he seems very image conscious in his posts on meapak
On March 02 2019 11:13 Jockmcplop wrote:
Is it me or is meapak throwing suspicion around without actually trying to get any information? Looks like that is the only story of the last couple of pages

On March 03 2019 03:39 Jockmcplop wrote:
I don't wanna be focusing all on one guy but MZ is contradicting himself again while bringing up the same old discussion that derailed the first 2 pages.

however i like this:
On March 02 2019 20:15 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 20:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jockmcplop can you explain to me why you don't have a read on me (or whatever sticks out means here?) when my top scumread atm is your top scumread for basically the same reasons which i stated before you did?


I think its your posting style more than anything. Our reads are the same but that doesn't mean anything if you're being objective about it.
Instinctively I read you very town but something about the way you post bugs me enough to want to see a bit more before I read.

i feel that there is a though process going on behind this. this places jock merely on the watch list

in summary acro and jock are scumleans, everyone else listed is either townlean or town


So I'm under suspicion for my tone, rather than the content of my posts?

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 02 2019 20:36 GMT
#723
On March 03 2019 05:22 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 05:20 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 03 2019 05:17 Tumblewood wrote:
ok i have finally caught up. herein lies the deal:
+ Show Spoiler [acrofales] +

On March 02 2019 16:17 Acrofales wrote:
I just started reading and 3 pages in stopped again. From this point onwards, I will be operating on a lynch all liars policy, because holy shit, mafia claims are the dumbest things I have ever seen. So yeah. Claim mafia beyond this point and I'll assume it's the truth. I also refuse to read anything else up to here, unless someone specifically points me somewhere in the first 23 pages worth reading.

Now can we keep the postcount reasonable? This isn't a mini, and I'm going sailing all weekend and have a deadline on Monday.

Thanks.

Acrofales, the townie.

this post sucks bum & i hate it

+ Show Spoiler [rsoul] +

On March 02 2019 17:14 rsoultin wrote:
It means you're doing the things you know I look for when I'm trying to get a read on you, which you've admitted to doing as mafia when I'm in a game. So while it makes me want to townread you I can't be as sure as I'd like to be :/

It's mostly tonal with Trfel. Seems really stiff at the start of the game with LS, even disregarding the smilies. There's a caveat here that I think will work itself out before EoD, though.

i like the caveat part of this post because it shows some real gears turning behind the reads. everything else from her has been whatever
(i will be interested eventually in what the caveat is)

+ Show Spoiler [exo] +

the way he entered the thread paints a target on his back in such a pointless and ridiculous way that it seems unlikely from mafia. however i hate it so i will be postponing townread until actual contribution

+ Show Spoiler [tictock] +

On March 02 2019 14:30 Tictock wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 02 2019 10:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 10:01 Trfel wrote:
Hi, I am mafia

I'm running for mayor and my platform is to lynch Trfel

Meapak_Ziphh, hereafter referred to as Meap, is the first possible mafia sighting.

+ Show Spoiler +

On March 02 2019 10:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 10:16 Holyflare wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:06 Trfel wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:01 Trfel wrote:
Hi, I am mafia

Cool who are your buddies?
Can't you just check the QT?

Also, to unvote in the mayor election you unmayor someone? That sounds pretty crazy xD And before anyone asks the inevitable question, there are seven mafia in the game, so we don't have to argue about it, cool?


No self respecting town person reads setup.

You're mafia.

This is outstanding analysis and I agree with it 100%


Meh, HF's post is NAI for me (seems more like a general poke, than a real accusation) but my gut really seems to think Meap is mafia all the more for this.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 02 2019 10:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 10:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
Vote me for mayor. I will be the arbiter of truth and justice

But how do we know that you're town here?

For anyone to know that I'm town at this point, that person would have to be scum. I'm here to find scum and lynch them, not prove that I'm town by any means that aren't incidental to my stated goals.

Do you know if youre town?

This is prob just kus Rayn and I have very different personalities/outlooks, but these sort of questions bug me. It's really an accusation that FF is slipping that he is actually mafia, but it's very implied that FF means "anyone else" as he is unlikely to be thinking about his own position. So probably just a weak poke from Rayn, but I dislike. Mostly kus what sort of response do you expect from this question? How can it help you?




Meap seems very Mafia to me on this page, he even does this "Guide me Senpai" thing with HF that I hate. + Show Spoiler +
On March 02 2019 10:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 10:18 Holyflare wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:17 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:16 Holyflare wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:06 Trfel wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:01 Trfel wrote:
Hi, I am mafia

Cool who are your buddies?
Can't you just check the QT?

Also, to unvote in the mayor election you unmayor someone? That sounds pretty crazy xD And before anyone asks the inevitable question, there are seven mafia in the game, so we don't have to argue about it, cool?


No self respecting town person reads setup.

You're mafia.

He already claimed mafia though didn't you read the opening of the game?


No self respecting townie reads the whole thread.

Sheeeeiiiit this is more quality analysis I can get behind

Is lightingstrike scum too HF?

Gut wants me to vote Meap, so vote Meap I shall.

the commentary on meapak is just not good. i have no idea how he gets a scumread out of the first quoted post, and the second is strange because he attributes HF's post as a likely joke but not meapak's even though he is just affirming HF's joke. also the fact that this is labeled as a gut read despite giving reasoning anyway.
i do like this though:
On March 02 2019 14:44 Tictock wrote:
Willing to give solid townleans on Trefl and LS, and a minor townlean on Damdred thus far. I've also got a bit of a gutread on FF at this point, but I'm not sharing it yet.

i came into this thinking i was gonna make a scum case on him but after actually reading the rest of his walls of text i'm not feeling it anymore. nothing else gives me the sketchy feeling

+ Show Spoiler [iamp] +

townish because he has some nice takes in these two posts:
On March 02 2019 16:19 iamperfection wrote:
wtf acro i read it again it and its even more useless the 2nd time

On March 03 2019 04:35 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 04:25 Tubesock wrote:
On March 03 2019 04:20 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On March 03 2019 04:05 Tubesock wrote:
There isn’t anyone I want to lynch.

If I were mayor I’d sheep Holyflare most likely for the 2nd lynch.

I'm thinking I'd like to lynch you!

Or are you making this guy mayor, Ace?


That’s fair. I can vote HF for mayor sure. I don’t see how you could get me wanting Ace mayor out of what I said.

how in the world can you think HF is for sure town?

that is all.

+ Show Spoiler [trfel] +

On March 02 2019 13:48 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 11:07 Conversion wrote:
I'd be happy to lynch him as of 9:07 PM EST though
Sorry I'm not understanding, what specifically changed?

In other news, my reason to be suspicious of raynpelikoneet was completely wrong, whoops. Never mind me.

i think he's town for the second part of this post. just feels very odd to post as mafia. that's it

+ Show Spoiler [rayn] +

i like him, he is clearly prodding people with purpose

+ Show Spoiler [ls] +

town

+ Show Spoiler [jock] +

he seems very image conscious in his posts on meapak
On March 02 2019 11:13 Jockmcplop wrote:
Is it me or is meapak throwing suspicion around without actually trying to get any information? Looks like that is the only story of the last couple of pages

On March 03 2019 03:39 Jockmcplop wrote:
I don't wanna be focusing all on one guy but MZ is contradicting himself again while bringing up the same old discussion that derailed the first 2 pages.

however i like this:
On March 02 2019 20:15 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 20:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jockmcplop can you explain to me why you don't have a read on me (or whatever sticks out means here?) when my top scumread atm is your top scumread for basically the same reasons which i stated before you did?


I think its your posting style more than anything. Our reads are the same but that doesn't mean anything if you're being objective about it.
Instinctively I read you very town but something about the way you post bugs me enough to want to see a bit more before I read.

i feel that there is a though process going on behind this. this places jock merely on the watch list

in summary acro and jock are scumleans, everyone else listed is either townlean or town


So I'm under suspicion for my tone, rather than the content of my posts?


i don't think i would call it tone exactly. it's how conscious you are of what other people will think of your alignment while you are stating your reads.


That doesn't seem like a particularly mafialike thing to me though. The first example isn't image conscious at all though. I guess I can see where you're coming from but I'll be posting alot for the next couple of days so you'll probably figure out I'm town sooner or later.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 02 2019 21:53 GMT
#793
On March 03 2019 06:49 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 04:36 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 03 2019 04:31 Alakaslam wrote:
It’a high time Rayn focused me down or I caught him


Is this from a meta read on him?

No, seriously. How is this your first mafia game?


What do you mean? He hinted at it earlier.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 03 2019 19:10 GMT
#1268
Just catching up now a couple of things are eye catching immediately.

I'd like to know what fecalfeast would do as mayor, specifically.

The only thing palmar has actually committed to is killing sent and I don't see the 'anti town' reasoning as particularly strong. It was only based off of a post or two.

Iamp is suspicious to me. He's posting alot of short, meaningless posts and is pointing out that he's 'obviously town' (if its obvious it doesn't need pointing out).

Oats is weird. I don't know if its just that he's fishing for info by making obviously wrong reads or trying to wind everyone up a bit.
Some of his comments are very flamey with the whole 'triggered' thing. Seems like he's trying to obliquely control the conversation and then when everyone starts arguing he disappears.

Townreads at the moment:

LS
Rsoultin
Acrofales
HF

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 03 2019 19:17 GMT
#1280
On March 04 2019 04:16 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 04:10 Jockmcplop wrote:
Just catching up now a couple of things are eye catching immediately.

I'd like to know what fecalfeast would do as mayor, specifically.

The only thing palmar has actually committed to is killing sent and I don't see the 'anti town' reasoning as particularly strong. It was only based off of a post or two.

Iamp is suspicious to me. He's posting alot of short, meaningless posts and is pointing out that he's 'obviously town' (if its obvious it doesn't need pointing out).

Oats is weird. I don't know if its just that he's fishing for info by making obviously wrong reads or trying to wind everyone up a bit.
Some of his comments are very flamey with the whole 'triggered' thing. Seems like he's trying to obliquely control the conversation and then when everyone starts arguing he disappears.

Townreads at the moment:

LS
Rsoultin
Acrofales
HF


are u saying this because you have reasons or because holyflare said so


Saying what?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 03 2019 19:24 GMT
#1288
On March 04 2019 04:18 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 04:17 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 04 2019 04:16 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 04 2019 04:10 Jockmcplop wrote:
Just catching up now a couple of things are eye catching immediately.

I'd like to know what fecalfeast would do as mayor, specifically.

The only thing palmar has actually committed to is killing sent and I don't see the 'anti town' reasoning as particularly strong. It was only based off of a post or two.

Iamp is suspicious to me. He's posting alot of short, meaningless posts and is pointing out that he's 'obviously town' (if its obvious it doesn't need pointing out).

Oats is weird. I don't know if its just that he's fishing for info by making obviously wrong reads or trying to wind everyone up a bit.
Some of his comments are very flamey with the whole 'triggered' thing. Seems like he's trying to obliquely control the conversation and then when everyone starts arguing he disappears.

Townreads at the moment:

LS
Rsoultin
Acrofales
HF


are u saying this because you have reasons or because holyflare said so


Saying what?

the bolded part about oats' reads being obviously wrong


Ahh I missed the bold.

Uhh he started by basically calling every single person mafia based off a vote.
Some stuff he says are assumptions that seem blatantly false:
eg

town votes themselves for mayor, not town doesnt.


He wasted a bunch of time on this stuff for no reason unless he had something else in mind.
Its less his focus on hf and more his semi random looking list of 'not town'.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 04 2019 02:11 GMT
#1560
On March 04 2019 08:05 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 04:10 Jockmcplop wrote:
Just catching up now a couple of things are eye catching immediately.

I'd like to know what fecalfeast would do as mayor, specifically.

The only thing palmar has actually committed to is killing sent and I don't see the 'anti town' reasoning as particularly strong. It was only based off of a post or two.

Iamp is suspicious to me. He's posting alot of short, meaningless posts and is pointing out that he's 'obviously town' (if its obvious it doesn't need pointing out).

Oats is weird. I don't know if its just that he's fishing for info by making obviously wrong reads or trying to wind everyone up a bit.
Some of his comments are very flamey with the whole 'triggered' thing. Seems like he's trying to obliquely control the conversation and then when everyone starts arguing he disappears.

Townreads at the moment:

LS
Rsoultin
Acrofales
HF



Why are you townreading LS and Acrofales?


Acro
His reads and votes seem sensible and well thought out. He seems pretty consistent about how he is judging people.
He doesn't mind being the topic of conversation which doesn't strike me as very scumlike.

LS
He's drawing far too much attention to himself. I think he's just having a laugh but again not in a scumlike way.


RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 04 2019 08:10 GMT
#1679
On March 04 2019 12:55 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Jock, if you're around, mind explaining that ninja vote on Oats? Your read 8 hours ago on him sounded cautious. What made you vote now?


Sorry I wasn't around but this is what I'm thinking:

Take a look a oats' filter. Nothing he posted really makes sense or seems to contribute much. I voted for him hoping he would come back and start playing a bit more with the rest of us to make it easier to get some kind of read. If not I'm still happy for him to go because he seems like a bit of a timewaster.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 04 2019 08:21 GMT
#1685
On March 04 2019 17:16 Tubesock wrote:
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On March 04 2019 17:10 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 04 2019 12:55 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Jock, if you're around, mind explaining that ninja vote on Oats? Your read 8 hours ago on him sounded cautious. What made you vote now?


Sorry I wasn't around but this is what I'm thinking:

Take a look a oats' filter. Nothing he posted really makes sense or seems to contribute much. I voted for him hoping he would come back and start playing a bit more with the rest of us to make it easier to get some kind of read. If not I'm still happy for him to go because he seems like a bit of a timewaster.


I think he contributes in his own way. Pretty much all his posts have reads in them. He isn’t trying super hard to convince people to kill his target (although he’s scumming Acro isn’t he?) but he’s still giving a lot more info in the form of reads over most of the game.


Those reads seem random and unexplained to me. Anyone can fire off a list of reads based on 'x stupid policy' or whatever but it doesn't help the rest of us at all unless you are some 12d chess playing mafia genius who can gaze into someone's soul through the medium of forum posts.
Maybe he is contributing but so far all I can see that he's contributed to was a waste of a few pages when there were some other interesting conversations going on.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 04 2019 08:38 GMT
#1691
On March 04 2019 17:29 Tubesock wrote:
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On March 04 2019 17:21 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 04 2019 17:16 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2019 17:10 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 04 2019 12:55 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Jock, if you're around, mind explaining that ninja vote on Oats? Your read 8 hours ago on him sounded cautious. What made you vote now?


Sorry I wasn't around but this is what I'm thinking:

Take a look a oats' filter. Nothing he posted really makes sense or seems to contribute much. I voted for him hoping he would come back and start playing a bit more with the rest of us to make it easier to get some kind of read. If not I'm still happy for him to go because he seems like a bit of a timewaster.


I think he contributes in his own way. Pretty much all his posts have reads in them. He isn’t trying super hard to convince people to kill his target (although he’s scumming Acro isn’t he?) but he’s still giving a lot more info in the form of reads over most of the game.


Those reads seem random and unexplained to me. Anyone can fire off a list of reads based on 'x stupid policy' or whatever but it doesn't help the rest of us at all unless you are some 12d chess playing mafia genius who can gaze into someone's soul through the medium of forum posts.
Maybe he is contributing but so far all I can see that he's contributed to was a waste of a few pages when there were some other interesting conversations going on.


He’s definitely not making it easy to get in his head, I’ll give you that. I just don’t think lack of contributions alone makes you scum. While lots of contributions are more likely town. I like that it’s fairly easy to find a read from him and then later compare it to votes.


I was asked why I voted for him, and the main tagline there is that even if he isn't scum I don't think the town would miss him so its a pretty safe lynch.
Unless he wants to come here and give me some good reasons not to vote for him.

There's also a tactical side to it as he already has some votes and I've townread acro who, in contrast to oats, could be useful as town. Acro is a much riskier lynch.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 04 2019 08:39 GMT
#1693
On March 04 2019 17:33 Acrofales wrote:
Hey @jockmcplop:

You said this was your first game. Yet seem weirdly clued in to terminology as well as the game itself. I asked this before, but you never answered: where did you learn so fast?


I spent the last week reading guides, analyses and old games from here.
The rest I'm picking up as I go along.

I'm an analyst for a living (analyitical chemistry) so I would imagine that gives me a good start when it comes to basic skills and objectivity.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 04 2019 08:41 GMT
#1694
On March 04 2019 17:39 Tubesock wrote:
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On March 04 2019 17:21 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 04 2019 17:16 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2019 17:10 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 04 2019 12:55 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Jock, if you're around, mind explaining that ninja vote on Oats? Your read 8 hours ago on him sounded cautious. What made you vote now?


Sorry I wasn't around but this is what I'm thinking:

Take a look a oats' filter. Nothing he posted really makes sense or seems to contribute much. I voted for him hoping he would come back and start playing a bit more with the rest of us to make it easier to get some kind of read. If not I'm still happy for him to go because he seems like a bit of a timewaster.


I think he contributes in his own way. Pretty much all his posts have reads in them. He isn’t trying super hard to convince people to kill his target (although he’s scumming Acro isn’t he?) but he’s still giving a lot more info in the form of reads over most of the game.


Those reads seem random and unexplained to me. Anyone can fire off a list of reads based on 'x stupid policy' or whatever but it doesn't help the rest of us at all unless you are some 12d chess playing mafia genius who can gaze into someone's soul through the medium of forum posts.
Maybe he is contributing but so far all I can see that he's contributed to was a waste of a few pages when there were some other interesting conversations going on.


So is Oats your leading wagon? Who you going to vote for?


I don't know yet.
Let's see where today takes us.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 04 2019 08:45 GMT
#1697
On March 04 2019 17:42 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 17:39 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2019 17:21 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 04 2019 17:16 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2019 17:10 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 04 2019 12:55 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Jock, if you're around, mind explaining that ninja vote on Oats? Your read 8 hours ago on him sounded cautious. What made you vote now?


Sorry I wasn't around but this is what I'm thinking:

Take a look a oats' filter. Nothing he posted really makes sense or seems to contribute much. I voted for him hoping he would come back and start playing a bit more with the rest of us to make it easier to get some kind of read. If not I'm still happy for him to go because he seems like a bit of a timewaster.


I think he contributes in his own way. Pretty much all his posts have reads in them. He isn’t trying super hard to convince people to kill his target (although he’s scumming Acro isn’t he?) but he’s still giving a lot more info in the form of reads over most of the game.


Those reads seem random and unexplained to me. Anyone can fire off a list of reads based on 'x stupid policy' or whatever but it doesn't help the rest of us at all unless you are some 12d chess playing mafia genius who can gaze into someone's soul through the medium of forum posts.
Maybe he is contributing but so far all I can see that he's contributed to was a waste of a few pages when there were some other interesting conversations going on.


So is Oats your leading wagon? Who you going to vote for?


Doh missed your vote. Anyway, I just think mafia cares more about what others think so would change up a little bit when he gets more heat.

What do you think of Trfel? I think he’s a piggybacker in the scum ways.


I think he needs to come here and explain himself a little more at some point..
My first impression is townie but not for any particular reason. I'll probably wait until he posts more, at least he doesn't seem to be doing any harm to town for now.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 04 2019 08:57 GMT
#1702
Obvious apologetics here from Wave:

On March 04 2019 14:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
I feel bad for how annoyed I got at literally every lurker/afker throughout my mafia career

I know how you feel


This is a little bit too:

On March 04 2019 16:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On March 04 2019 16:32 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2019 16:24 Acrofales wrote:
On March 04 2019 16:18 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2019 14:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lean scum on Pandain for earlier weird commitment on Ace. I'd say solid vig target like MZ just said, and hell, just to introduce some WIFOM shoot him instead of me because I might be more likely to put in some effort at some point?


Statistically speaking I feel like there must be scum amongst the bigger voices this game. Doesn't feel like Iamp to me, and I can't read Holyflare basically ever. Not sure who that leaves but I figure I'll actually resort to a filter dive at some point.


HF is never scum here. If one of us is scum and the other isn't we tear each other apart. I'm not sure if both are scum...I can't remember playing scum with him but chipmunk memory.

It's actually super exciting lol >< it's been forever since we both rolled town.

And apart from the rsoul-focused reason, there's also how he handled the argument with rayn. Scum HF just keeps tearing and tearing, town HF backs off and tries to understand people after his stubborn argumentative streak is appeased. So.

I mostly agree with you.

Not sold on lamp. His main contribution is hounding me all game so far, so I know he is at least very very wrong. Still gotta figure out whether that's because he's being an idiot or just picked a target and stuck with it because it's easier as scum than actually reading the thread. Especially this huge one...


I think Iam's town. I thought he was town before his case on you. He's got this organic thing going when reacting to the thread. Also think it's a mischaracterization to say that he's not focused on anything else.

Agree with this.
Also town iamp makes me laugh more than scum iamp I thinks?
That's a lie fuck it I just like when he calls people names



This is simultaneously backtracking and sowing suspicion. I don't like it:

On March 04 2019 14:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
My weakness is I often tie people's alignments to their reads of me but I can't help but be curious.
Stuff like rsoul's read of me makes me lean scum on her because it feels like a massive cop-out when I know she's way more capable and at the very least could have taken the bad=scum route or formulated some opinion on my lacklustre performance thus far. It's real easy.


What's the point of this:

On March 04 2019 16:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On March 04 2019 16:23 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2019 16:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 04 2019 16:18 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2019 14:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lean scum on Pandain for earlier weird commitment on Ace. I'd say solid vig target like MZ just said, and hell, just to introduce some WIFOM shoot him instead of me because I might be more likely to put in some effort at some point?


Statistically speaking I feel like there must be scum amongst the bigger voices this game. Doesn't feel like Iamp to me, and I can't read Holyflare basically ever. Not sure who that leaves but I figure I'll actually resort to a filter dive at some point.


HF is never scum here. If one of us is scum and the other isn't we tear each other apart. I'm not sure if both are scum...I can't remember playing scum with him but chipmunk memory.

It's actually super exciting lol >< it's been forever since we both rolled town.

And apart from the rsoul-focused reason, there's also how he handled the argument with rayn. Scum HF just keeps tearing and tearing, town HF backs off and tries to understand people after his stubborn argumentative streak is appeased. So.

Disagree with your points on HF entirely. HF is a free spirit and does more or less whatever the fuck he pleases as either alignment. Kinda like me :D


You can disagree. I'm not going to believe someone has a better read on him than me until they can prove it, though, cause my track record's actually pretty decent.

Especially not from someone who claims to never be able to read him.

That's exactly it--- I never claimed to be able to read him. I didn't call him scum, I'm just not bothering entirely. I'm definitely not calling him town though.


Can anyone else smell something funny here?
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 04 2019 09:00 GMT
#1706
On March 04 2019 17:55 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 17:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 04 2019 17:42 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2019 17:39 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2019 17:21 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 04 2019 17:16 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2019 17:10 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 04 2019 12:55 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Jock, if you're around, mind explaining that ninja vote on Oats? Your read 8 hours ago on him sounded cautious. What made you vote now?


Sorry I wasn't around but this is what I'm thinking:

Take a look a oats' filter. Nothing he posted really makes sense or seems to contribute much. I voted for him hoping he would come back and start playing a bit more with the rest of us to make it easier to get some kind of read. If not I'm still happy for him to go because he seems like a bit of a timewaster.


I think he contributes in his own way. Pretty much all his posts have reads in them. He isn’t trying super hard to convince people to kill his target (although he’s scumming Acro isn’t he?) but he’s still giving a lot more info in the form of reads over most of the game.


Those reads seem random and unexplained to me. Anyone can fire off a list of reads based on 'x stupid policy' or whatever but it doesn't help the rest of us at all unless you are some 12d chess playing mafia genius who can gaze into someone's soul through the medium of forum posts.
Maybe he is contributing but so far all I can see that he's contributed to was a waste of a few pages when there were some other interesting conversations going on.


So is Oats your leading wagon? Who you going to vote for?


Doh missed your vote. Anyway, I just think mafia cares more about what others think so would change up a little bit when he gets more heat.

What do you think of Trfel? I think he’s a piggybacker in the scum ways.


I think he needs to come here and explain himself a little more at some point..
My first impression is townie but not for any particular reason. I'll probably wait until he posts more, at least he doesn't seem to be doing any harm to town for now.


No harm? He’s jumped on threeish other peoples ideas to scum someone, and never bothered to look further in any of them, and dropped a vote on Oats who in the post earlier he defended as probably town. If anyone is skating by it’s him.

Do you still scumread me?


I have never scumread you.
AFAIK I haven't even check your filter as of yet.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 04 2019 09:09 GMT
#1718
On March 04 2019 18:07 Holyflare wrote:
My mayor lynch will be on Palmar by the way.


I can get behind this, but what's the reasoning behind it?
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 04 2019 10:17 GMT
#1745
Palmar can you explain your town read on damdred? I don't get it really.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9661 Posts
March 04 2019 13:15 GMT
#1798
On March 04 2019 22:11 Palmar wrote:
I'm also interested in people who do not want to lynch Conversion and why.


Well he's gone quiet recently which is a bit interesting but in that early exchange MZ came across much more scumlike to me. He was poking but in a weird way and conversion reacted defending himself.
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