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On March 07 2019 04:13 LightningStrike wrote: just got home I didn't do anything this morning because well I had homework that I had to do. Some question that I need to answer: Maybe it is best to save VCA until we get BH flipped but it would be easier to start coloring people. NK wifom is making my head spin with BH being alive. Scum because her fight with rayn felt TvS honestly tone wise it felt like. Plus her read shifts was read on me felt a bit weird especially because I would of thought her husband would of told her about Cell Millionaire being the game I broke my emotion meta. Also her EoD was extremely weird she somehow ended up from wanting to lynch Trfel to wanting to lynch BH all within like 2 hours EoD. I'm town LS. If you've got questions for me, ask. I'm no longer likely to curse at you for calling my getting upset at rayn fake lol >< re: what my husband tells me, he does not share the details of every game he hosts(?) with me nor would I remember if he did, and if he were playing this game we'd be playing as RtaniSoul Truffle's posts at EoD seemed towny to me full stop. You can believe that comes from scum or not, up to you. Any other issues, questions? | ||
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On March 07 2019 04:23 LightningStrike wrote: What you think of EoD in terms of like spread of the mafia votes on the following scnerios: If BH is Town? If BH is Scum? I don't know that it would be any different tbh if BH is scum suiciding vs. town. Maybe more scum on BH trying to get cred if he's scum. If they're both town mafia in the off-wagon votes is more likely. This is kind of basic mafia 101 though not sure what you think you'll learn from this question. | ||
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On March 07 2019 04:28 LightningStrike wrote: Tina here is my best scum game since you had retired just so you got a little bit extra info about what Rels was talking about here: https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503886-who-wants-to-be-a-millionaire-cell-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike Speaking of Rels: Rels what is your current read on me and why? I don't care, sorry. You're almost definitely town and I've got more important things to do. | ||
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waffling a little on TT because of the grack thing with sent but his explanation lines up and he feels town to me, so not up there with oats, ls, hf, ff but still townish. read ace this morning and not convinced by hf's assertion that no way he plays that bad as scum. that's where my vote would go at the moment haven't reread wave but gut says town the same way it said oats was. i don't think i'll change my mind short of something blatant i didn't notice filtering acro next, then probably rayn and viva. but i'll take other suggestions, priorities getting uncomfortable with townreading most of the active players pft | ||
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On March 07 2019 04:49 Holyflare wrote: I think a BH lynch is key to solving a lot of people's alignments to be honest. I'm not opposed to this cause I'm shit at reading him. Usually when I read him scum he's town, and because there are things making me want to townread him and he's not setting off my BS bells I really contrarily think maybe he's scum and I just have a reverse-dar for some inexplicable reason. But whose alignment do you think it will resolve? I doubt BH's martyring was something the scum team didn't plan around if he's scum? | ||
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On March 03 2019 07:13 Acrofales wrote: We decided you scum and are starting a wagon. Got anything to add? Still filtering, rayn, but I wanted to post this before I forgot who did it again. I remember getting a town feel from this post. | ||
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On March 06 2019 21:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: I really think we should lynch Acrofales and i don't think anything is going to change my mind this phase anymore. He has now given himself a perfect narrative to do absolutely nothing than sound like a broken record repeating Holyflare is mafia because he did a stupid thing. The problem is if you don't kill him right now even if we lynch another mafia after N2 too many influential players are going to be dead and he will simply yell over anyone who's left and town and you will get irritated and lose interest to play. I know this because it's how i used to play as scum. Here is a list why Acrofales is mafia:
I encourage everyone to put your votes on Acrofales. All these Lighntingstrikes and Alakaslams need to get their heads out of their asses. Wave if you want to spend the rest of the game with scum 5-years-ago-rayn then be my guest and have your vote on HF as policy but don't complain after the game, especially in case Acrofales at some point decides to call you mafia and wants to have you lynched. You will not like it a single bit. The truth is Holyflare executing his scumread Palmar, however bad or stupid you may think that is, isn't actually even close to a good reasoning of him being mafia. I agree on the case on Ace. I had more thought on it and i think the fact that he was actually aware of Trfel (or at least looked like he is) suggests that it is more likely he did in fact know what Holyflare was about to do. I know a lot of people are saying Ace is too good as scum to do something like that but i don't believe that is the case. I think Ace decided he can use his activity as an excuse to "not know HF is gonna lynch Palmar", aka that he didn't see it, and did the numbers and thought he can get away with it. Also Ace is not like some fucking mafia god that doesn't make any mistakes. + Show Spoiler + I caught him once because scum nuked meapak and i went to fakeclaim the nuke when for any player who doesn't have TMI that nuke never comes from mafia. Ace got confused and started gunning on me being mafia completely ignoring the fact before. And he couldn't even keep his story straight. So yeah, it's not like Ace alwasy does the most optimal play as mafia. Mr.Wiggles is also mafia but that's for tomorrow. Yeah no it's not jiving. I can believe you believe it but 1. He wasn't going after lurkers -> main push was oats 2. I don't know why this would make anyone scum? 3. This doesn't seem entirely true unless your argument is why didn't he try to convince one of them to lynch someone he scumread more? Which I don't see as particularly problematic in light of what he was posting about D1. And I don't see the yelling or chaos? 4. This I can see. 5. Don't agree here either. Much as I don't agree on his HF push it's not like he's been ignoring everything else. @Acro - when did you decide HF became top priority? he was behind wiggles and sent originally? On March 05 2019 10:13 Acrofales wrote: Unfortunately no. We don't. Sentinel and Wiggles were exactly as bad, and were also high priority scumreads from the dead town Palmar. | ||
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On March 07 2019 05:28 rsoultin wrote: @Acro - when did you decide HF became top priority? he was behind wiggles and sent originally? | ||
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On March 07 2019 05:35 sicklucker wrote: if we were gonna yolo lynch I think rels is the guy. he starts getting active as mafia starts winning. very nice. also thinks im scum for some reason which seems forced (omgus) I'm also down for this. If I still feel this way in the morning I'll explain further. But I also am fine with a BH lynch so...yeah lol >< | ||
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On March 07 2019 05:41 Acrofales wrote: Dunno. Sometime during the night when I read other people's reactions, and reread HF's behavior around the flip. Think WoS said something insightful. I'll try to find it, but let me catch up with the damn thread first before I gotta filter-dive again. Sure. If it's easier I'm more curious what changed your mind specifically that he was higher priority. I saw where you first said it in your filter and don't need you to filter yourself lol >< | ||
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Fuck it I give up. My brain is fried and I can't keep focused for long and that's doing no one any good, so I'm going to stop trying to solve the entire game somehow at once and just ignore the fact that I'm probably missing an active scummer somewhere. Acro doesn't look scum to me. Rayn I'm mostly okay with minus a doubt here or there. And Viva may be scum but really I'm least scared of him making it late game if he's scum cause he'll just peter out. Dug in and blinders on is what I associate with his town game anyway, though it's a little less shiny and different-Viva angle than I'm used to seeing. | ||
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2. Maybe? Wouldn't know how valid this is. 3. This didn't happen. 5. Mine, for one xP | ||
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On March 07 2019 06:24 Tictock wrote: Sorry, never mind what I said about getting back to this game today. Work wants me to come in and cover a shift. Finally got some word about my roommate (hadn't really heard anything since "he is in the hospital, he is ok" from his fam), sounds like he is still suicidal and no clue when he will be released. Which tells me I am stuck in Limbo for a bit in this situation but probably need to break my lease and move out or somehow find a new roommate for a few months. Either way I think I need to take all the hours I can and go into work. Sorry I have nothing related to the game, I probably should not have signed up with this shit going on. Taking care of yourself is more important. | ||
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On March 07 2019 06:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: 3. What did he do? Saying HF dont lymch Palmar or Koshi for mayor for 30mins counts as nothing because it never achieves nothing. Like has everyone fucking stopped understanding how this game even works?!?!?! This is the last I'm going to say on this. Achieving something is not the same as trying to achieve something. Right now you are trying to achieve something. | ||
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On March 07 2019 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: There is one post on his filter where he says "i went to read palmars filter and he is not scum". There is a set of 3 posts that goes "koshi wanna be mayor?", "lets do this (vote)", "koshi mayor going nowhere (vote palmar)". That lasted a whole 30 minutes and that is all of his "trying to achieve" not getting mayor lynch his townread.... I dont even know why the dude voted for trfel (for some random post), while earlier having agreed to bh lynch. Okay, I can see where you're coming from. Your argument is that he wasn't trying hard enough for you to believe he really cared about it, yes? For some reason I think I might have read his having already addressed this...yes. Why do you think Sentinel was a townread of Acrofales? | ||
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On March 07 2019 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes that is my argument. Idk why he was but he was. Very light townread but still townread. Another thing about caring. His case against you on idk n1 or d2. Your scumread on palmar. He didnt even care enough to check why i scumread palmar (your read was based on mine). He said i scumread palmar because palmar wanted to kill sentinel (which is ridiculous because i originally said i am okay with that plan eventhough i tgink palmar is scum) and because palmar didnt respond to my case on him (i had had a scumread on palmar long before that happened and that had literally nothing to do with your read on palmar). Is that much caring? Like its not very hard to know why me or you scumread palmar if you read our filters with any thought, somehow he managed to miss that while its the backbone of his case. Then he said something like holyflare must die for his stunt and will flip mafia but hey lets lynch wiggles and sentinel because palmar said so. Like wtf he doesnt even think sentinel is mafia eod1 but when night starts he magically is because palmar flipped, and i bet he didnt even know at that point why palmar read wiggles mafia. Yeah I'm very familiar with the n1 case. He claimed I was scumreading palmar for people sheeping palmar lol >< though tbf Wave also somehow got that confused if I recall correctly. Though I will say Wave was right that I didn't say much about Palmar and actually dug. And I'm already prodding him for the latter which he has told me to lynch him for if he doesn't get back to me ^^ I don't think it's crazy for you to scumread him. I really just dismissed his case on me as dumb coming from either alignment and kind of disregarded it as alignment-indicative. That could have been premature. But I don't know, in a vacuum he seems to be poking into various things while pushing the HF lynch. I know why you'd want to lynch him before n2 if you expect to be killed. I had the same issue with my scumread in one of my more recent games - no faith they'd lynch him when I was dead. I'll keep poking at what bugs me but I don't think this will be today's lynch nor probably should it be? I just don't see enough here to make me confident enough to push him over say Ace and I do believe BH is a good lynch today. | ||
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@mocsta Vote is probably going on BH or Ace. Will decide...probably in the afternoon? Actually a bit busy tomorrow. If I don't start something of my own by then lol >< Just in case I'm one of the people who you don't think has made a clear stance cause the thread's massive. | ||
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My gut wants to lynch Rels for him being so eager to connect with me and then not doing anything with it. His comments are usually piggy-backing or outright nada. And then my devil's advocate says wasn't he a better scum player than this? And can't the blah be explained by big game/little time? And I'm debating how much to share which isn't helpful either. Also, ye, mocsta does look pretty town to me and I'm gonna pretend he's never had me eating out of his hand when he's scum. I opened DF's filter and realized he talked more than I remembered but I'm not getting strong feels on him one way or another. Which makes me lean toward scum. Tried to read Wiggles filter and my brain petered out halfway through. That will have to come later. My general impression of him this game is not much different than my issue with Wave was on D1, though. Pretty peanut gallery. With an addition of being too nice, at least to me. Gun to my head I'd vote Wiggles today pre-reviewing his filter. Or BC >< Or Rels. I feel like I'm missing shit and my usual way of finding what I'm missing doesn't work in such a big game. Spent way too much time yesterday getting nowhere fast. Slam not having fun is probably scum. <-yeah, I know, unoriginal Also need to read what this thing on sent is all about that Rels was yes ma'aming. Getting pretty burnt out, though. Like legit I don't know what's wrong with me can't find anything I feel super strong about beyond a few townreads burnt out. Grack feels townish though so yay? MZ idk what that Damdred best lynch rn over others thing is. Is he reading this game or not? I could check back in his filter but cba. I don't feel suddenly like Ace is very town like some others do? But I don't feel he's a good lynch either. Anyway, not going to be around as much today. Hopefully I can get the motivation back to actually focus on what I'm reading instead of it all blurring together. Might just yolo a Rels lynch anyway. My gut super doesn't like him >< So I guess I do have one strong scumread that I doubt I can adequately explain cause it's all based on feels lol yay \o/ | ||
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