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On March 14 2019 11:25 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Faithful listener LightningStrike calls in: Show nested quote +On March 14 2019 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:
I took some time off I think it was TvT for Tubesock vs Chez which makes me sad. It kinda shitty but we have to deal with it. What's making you change your mind on TS? I don't like how TS rolled over at the end, and unlike some others, I don't believe it's necessarily a town tell. For me that's not alignment-indicative, so I think the previous case still stands.
Im also weighing in with Chez town read on tubesock
I dunno where I sit trusting anything out of acro mouth, but chez I can + he locked onto sentinel DAy1.
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On March 14 2019 12:08 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2019 11:25 Mocsta wrote:On March 14 2019 11:21 LightningStrike wrote:
FYI Rels is not going to return till tomorrow I believe he feeling very demotivated from what he told me in the qt due to chez's flip. LOL funny.. doesnt he have to mason someone else? hes playing this game so weird.. whose doing most of the game solving in the qt? i.e. whose putting original thought in, and who is listening/responding? I told him who I want him to mason up already. We both share the duty on who putting original thought in and stuff. I mean this respectfully, you may feel that, but its rarely 50/50
Rels posted logs before so i assume you can as well
i suggest you check with hosts and post before night end.
If hes feeding off you, and planting seeds - very scummy.
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OMG.. i believe acro
i cant believe this
Lurker vig has been issued on TL before. wtf
(I actually got onto this from MZ "responsiblilty mafia" - I havnt filter dived, but im curious now what his position on lurker vig is, since he knew it was a legit possibility)
As for pandain, i dont like how much he is riding on the dayvig confirmed town status thing, but i think thats more likely to come from town.
One flawed point raised for the record is the TL database has 26 instances of day vig role. Its roughly 50/50 split between town and scum.
I think you're town on how you are playing the game - but need to stop citing role as evidence. Its not.
So if I update my read pool:
Day One Final Vote Count - TRFEL + PALMAR
Mayor
Holyfare (16): Tubesock, Holyfare, rsoultin, ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpeliokneet, Fecalfeast, iamperfection, damdred, ExO_, trfel
palmar (12): palmar, tictock, Meapak_Zipphh, waveofshadow, Grackaroni, conversion, Alakaslam, LightningStrike, Vivax, BloodyC0bbler, ACROFALES, blazinghand
iamperfection (4): darthfoley, Tumblewood, koshi, Oatsmaster
Chezinu (1):Chezinu
Onegu (1): Onegu
rsoultin (1): Rels
Lynch
trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, ACROFALES, Vivax, conversion
blazinghand (10): Holyfare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, waveofshadow, raynpeliokneet, trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike
conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley
ACROFALES (2): damdred, tictock
iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, blazinghand
koshi (1): ace
Fecalfeast (1): PANDAIN
Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh
LightningStrike (1): Rels
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Mr. Wiggles (1): palmar
Day Two Final Vote Count - BLAZINGHAND
blazinghand (13): Mr. Wiggles, Rels, Holyfare, [UoN]Sentinel, rsoultin, PANDAIN, Mocsta, LightningStrike, waveofshadow, tictock, Tubesock, ExO_, Tumblewood
Holyfare (9): blazinghand, sicklucker, BloodyC0bbler, Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, ace, darthfoley, ACROFALES, Vivax
ACROFALES (2): raynpeliokneet, Fecalfeast
ace (1): Jockmcplop
rsoultin (1): Onegu
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Grackaroni,
Mr. Wiggles (1): Meapak_Ziphh
Not voting (2): damdred, Chezinu
Day Three Final Vote Count - [UoN]Sentinel
[UoN]Sentinel (10): PANDAIN, Grackaroni, Mocsta, ace, tictock, ACROFALES, LightningStrike, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Meapak_Ziphh
ace (7): Oatsmaster, Rels, Jockmcplop, Chezinu, [UoN]Sentinel, darthfoley, Vivax
Chezinu (4): Alakaslam, Fecalfeast, Onegu, sicklucker
Not voting (2): ExO_, Tubesock
Day Four Final Vote Count - Chezinu
Chezinu (7): Onegu, Rels, sicklucker, darthfoley, Grackaroni, LighningStrike, Vivax
Tubesock (7): Mocsta, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Chezinu, Fecalfeast, ACROFALES, Alakaslam
Onegu (3): Meapak_Ziphh, ExO_, PANDAIN
Meapak_Ziphh (1): Oatsmaster
Oatsmaster (1): tubesock
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Throwing out something
If Tube + Chez is TvT
Oats vote doesnt bode well
On March 14 2019 06:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think we just lynch mz here
Clearly was here before lynch
Clearly his vote wasnt going to change the outcome between TS/Chez
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This will be my last post for cycle
This is just a gut feel dump of where I stand with remaining player count in
My care factor is pretty low and I cant be bothered re-reading the game. Its pretty annoying that I still wake up to 10 pages and majority of it is what I surmise as "policy discussion". Yes, Im contributing to that shitpool too. I get it and am disgusted at myself. I never read the first 50 pages of the game, and stopped reading critically after day2 lynch.
The game needs to migrate towards what Acro did with Chez claim. That was incredible. Absolutely outstanding, and even before the lynch, you could see Chez broke out of character to congratulate out of shock.
At least one of Acro/Pandain has to be shot tonight.
One thing to consider is that Fecalfeast lost his bomb due to the chez lynch. So unfortunately there is no incentive for scum to shoot him. This will be an interesting point as we get closer to MYLO. I assume next cycle isnt lylo?
+ Show Spoiler [reads] +Onegu- I can only recall him focused on reads and semantics. Very one-track focused. Probably scum. Fecalfeast - I dont remember anything about this guy other than the claim. Odd thing to fake and took the "roleplay" with chez seriously. I would only consider scum at lylo. LightningStrike - Again, i dont remember anything this guy has said. Like a constantly available puppy dog waiting to be fed. Has to be town. Oatsmaster - Had a strong Day1 and has completely faded. Unlike me, has not cited the game size and progression as a deterrent. Very bullish when comes back in, not working with town even though not a key contributor. I find that scummy. I would seriously consider a lynch as maybe 2nd or 3rd scum option. sicklucker - Again, I cant remember a single thing about this guy. I think hes posting a lot but i just cant recall what his focus is. I would be fucked if LYLO was sl/ff/me. Acrofales-I believe the claim. He really stepped up this Day cycle. I will give it to him. That chez piece was beautiful. Im dropping the 3P thing altogether. Jockmcplop-Strong Day1+2 town read. Tapered off Day3/4, and I think this drop off is exhaustion and confusion similar to my own. Just the way he explained it, I really resonated with. Ride or Die for me. ExO_-Im sticking with my lone wolf play. Its interesting. Him and oats are doing a similar thing so why am i townreading exo and not oats. I think its because exo is still playing within the boundaries of thread sentiment which I think is more likely to be town lone wolf. Oats is just completely out of sync with game state. Vivax-Im trusting the flipped townies here. Rayn/rsuoltin etc. i stopped reading him yonks ago. Grackaroni-I thought was town Day1/2. I dont think his push on me is scum setting up a mislynch. he probably believes it. I should read his day1/day2 stuff in detail like i promised. I cant remember much other than he picked up on some really good off-beat stuff. "hipster" town  tubesock-Following read from Chez + Acro. Pandain-Is trying too hard for scum +all this confirmed town shit just draws attention to him being shot. I could revisit at LYLO, but frankly, I would be shocked if he got there darthfoley-I had to pause before choosing null or red. If i could distill DF this game. hes saying things that feel good, but is ending up in shit places. I think thats pretty scummy. Mocsta-dduhhhhh Meapak_Ziphh-Again, I cant remember anything about this guy. He seems to come in and bark at thread sentiment but not doing anything to change it. Mr. Wiggles-My weakest of town reads. Dunno, about this. Again, I cant remmeber shit about his vote progressions. Seems to be a recurring theme. Game is too big. Seems to be an older / more mature version of Lightning Strike in the sense of puppy dog waiting to be fed. A town point in his favour is that the posting frequency and tone has been consistent. Alakaslam-Another ball of nothingness. Is always posting but i dont see a purpose. Also, I dont think he was getting horny over Chez like he normally does. Scum to town could be an explanation Rels-When I think of Rels, I think, wasted opportunity. Everything seems to be limp. I dunno how much of this could be IRL. I dont think his submissive as scum, so could be explained by other factors. I dunno.
In short
Town Circle: FF, LS, Acro, Jock, ExO, Vivax, Grack, TS, Pandain, Wiggles)
Null Circle: SL, Rels
Scum Circle: Onegu, Oats, DF, MZ, Slam
I didnt end up at that breakdown trying to find a scum team of 7. Those are jsut the ppl that intuitively came to me as scummy.
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On March 14 2019 13:00 LightningStrike wrote:
Mocsta didn't you claim a parity check on someone earlier? Cos Pandain made it public
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For funsies
I will update the vote count with my read
Scum = Sentinel, BC + ONEGU, Oats, DF, MZ, Slam
Day One Final Vote Count - trfel + palmar
Mayor
Holyfare (16): Tubesock, Holyfare, rsoultin, ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpeliokneet, Fecalfeast, iamperfection, damdred, ExO_, trfel
palmar (12): palmar, tictock, Meapak_Zipphh, waveofshadow, Grackaroni, conversion, ALAKASLAM, LightningStrike, Vivax, BloodyC0bbler, ACROFALES, blazinghand
iamperfection (4): DARTHFOLEY, Tumblewood, koshi, OATSMASTER
Chezinu (1):Chezinu
ONEGU (1): ONEGU
rsoultin (1): Rels
Lynch
trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, ACROFALES, Vivax, conversion
blazinghand (10): Holyfare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, OATSMASTER, waveofshadow, raynpeliokneet, trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike
conversion (3): Mocsta, ALAKASLAM, DARTHFOLEY
ACROFALES (2): damdred, tictock
iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, blazinghand
koshi (1): ace
Fecalfeast (1): PANDAIN
Grackaroni (1): MEAPAK_ZIPHH
LightningStrike (1): Rels
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu
rsoultin (1): ONEGU
Mr. Wiggles (1): palmar
Day Two Final Vote Count - BLAZINGHAND
blazinghand (13): Mr. Wiggles, Rels, Holyfare, [UoN]Sentinel, rsoultin, PANDAIN, Mocsta, LightningStrike, waveofshadow, tictock, Tubesock, ExO_, Tumblewood
Holyfare (9): blazinghand, sicklucker, BloodyC0bbler, ALAKASLAM, OATSMASTER, ace, DARTHFOLEY, ACROFALES, Vivax
ACROFALES (2): raynpeliokneet, Fecalfeast
ace (1): Jockmcplop
rsoultin (1): ONEGU
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Grackaroni,
Mr. Wiggles (1): MEAPAK_ZIPHH
Not voting (2): damdred, Chezinu
Day Three Final Vote Count - [UoN]Sentinel
[UoN]Sentinel (10): PANDAIN, Grackaroni, Mocsta, ace, tictock, ACROFALES, LightningStrike, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, MEAPAK_ZIPHH
ace (7): OATSMASTER, Rels, Jockmcplop, Chezinu, [UoN]Sentinel, DARTHFOLEY, Vivax
Chezinu (4): ALAKASLAM, Fecalfeast, ONEGU, sicklucker
Not voting (2): ExO_, Tubesock
Day Four Final Vote Count - Chezinu
Chezinu (7): ONEGU, Rels, sicklucker, DARTHFOLEY, Grackaroni, LighningStrike, Vivax
Tubesock (7): Mocsta, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Chezinu, Fecalfeast, ACROFALES, ALAKASLAM
ONEGU (3): MEAPAK_ZIPHH, ExO_, PANDAIN
MEAPAK_ZIPHH (1): OATSMASTER
OATSMASTER (1): tubesock
Ironically this makes some sense to me.
Even Day2. Lynch HF first is justifiable as policy so its ok they bandwagoned.
Sentinel is by himself as traitor.
Nice.
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Oats,
I dont get what you are advocating; that you could have protected Onegu by voting TT or Chez?
On March 12 2019 22:01 Dandel Ion wrote:
Day Four Vote Count
Tubesock (5): Mocsta, Fecalfeast, Mr. Wiggles, Alakaslam, Jockmcplop
Chezinu (3): Onegu, Rels, sicklucker
Maepak_Ziphh (2): Acrofales, LighningStrike
darthfoley (1): Vivax
Not voting (8): Oatsmaster, Chezinu, ExO_, Grackaroni, tubesock, Pandain, darthfoley, Maepak_Ziphh
Tubesock is currently set to be lynched.
This is vote count adjusted for the 3 votes before yours in that 5hr span.
~ 13 March 2019 02:30
Day Four Vote Count
Tubesock (5): Mocsta, Fecalfeast, Mr. Wiggles, Alakaslam, Jockmcplop
Chezinu (5): Onegu, Rels, sicklucker, tubesock, LS
Maepak_Ziphh (2): Acrofales, oatsmaster
darthfoley (1): Vivax
Slam (1): Pandain
Not voting (5): Chezinu, ExO_, Grackaroni, darthfoley, Maepak_Ziphh
Tubesock is currently set to be lynched.
This is vote count when you made that post (40min out from deadline)
On March 14 2019 07:21 kitaman27 wrote:
Day Four Vote Count
Tubesock (7): Mocsta, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Chezinu, LighningStrike, Vivax, Fecalfeast
Onegu (5): Acrofales, Meapak_Ziphh, ExO_, Alakaslam, Pandain
Chezinu (4): Onegu, Rels, sicklucker, darthfoley
Meapak_Ziphh (2): Oatsmaster, Grackaroni
Oatsmaster (1): tubesock
Not voting (0):
Tubesock is currently set to be lynched.
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Slam
Who would you swap in that list with you?
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Sentinel is mvp this game for sure
Root cause for this shitty game of continual town v town
Amazing job as traitor
Playes it to perfection
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Great thoughts come in shower
Oats is scum because of how hard i had to try for him to comment on my scum case on ace
He pretty much hedged as much as he could
Onegu or oats tomorrow
I dont care what order as long as they are the next 2
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Oo and darthfoley to finish off top 3
My notes on him are legit
Content reads good. Hes clearly not a muppet.
Yet somehow his vote is always on worst option for town.
Muppet vote and non muppet posts = scum
Next 3 lynches
Onegu / oatsmaster and then darthfoley
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Acro
You are diluting your posts/filter going back/forth with Oats.
All he is doing is countering by throwing the question back to you - pretty scummy.
Getting you to argue against yourself
WHERE IS HIS READS. blah blah blah
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Onegu
Why r u responding to oats then lol
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Anyways
I checked
N1 Koshi
N2 Holyflare
N3 Tictock
N4 darthfoley
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I checked fecalfeast
##Vote: FF
GG sl/grack/vivax
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On March 15 2019 08:10 Acrofales wrote:
@Mocsta: I'm confused. Didn't you claim you checked DF? correct
ploy
DF is scum. I dont need to check him.
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On March 15 2019 08:11 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2019 08:11 Mocsta wrote:On March 15 2019 08:10 Acrofales wrote:
@Mocsta: I'm confused. Didn't you claim you checked DF? correct ploy DF is scum. I dont need to check him. But you just said you checked him? what dont you understand about the word "ploy"
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(After EoN4) - Flips ONLY
Dead Scum = Red (PowerRole = Underline)
Dead Town = Green (PowerRole = Underline)
Alive with claim = Blue
(My only edit was changing Day2 AMG vote to "Pandain")
Day One final Vote Count
Mayor
Holyflare (16): Tubesock, Holyflare, rsoultin, Ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast, iamperfection, Damdred, ExO_, Trfel
Palmar (12): Palmar, Ticktock, Meapak_Zipphh, WaveofShadow, Grackaroni, Conversion, Alakaslam, LightningStrike, Vivax, BloodyC0bbler, Acrofales, Blazinghand
iamperfection (4): darthfoley, Tumblewood, Koshi, Oatsmaster
Chezinu (1):Chezinu
sicklucker (1): sicklucker
rsoultin (1): Rels
Not Voting (0):
Lynch
Trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood,Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion
Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike
Conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley
Acrofales (2): Damdred, Tictock
iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, Blazinghand
Koshi (1): Ace
Fecalfeast (1): Pandain
Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh
LightningStrike (1): Rels
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu
rsoultin (1): sicklucker
Mr. Wiggles (1): Palmar
Day Two final Vote Count
Blazinghand (13): Mr. Wiggles, Rels, Holyflare, [UoN]Sentinel, rsoultin, Pandain, Mocsta, LightningStrike, WaveofShadow, Tictock, Tubesock, ExO_, Tumblewood
Holyflare (9): Blazinghand, sicklucker, BloodyC0bbler, Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, Ace, darthfoley, Acrofales, Vivax
Acrofales (2): raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast
Ace (1): Jockmcplop
rsoultin (1): sicklucker
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Grackaroni,
Mr. Wiggles (1): Meapak_Ziphh
Not voting (2): Damdred, Chezinu
Day Three final Vote Count
[UoN]Sentinel (10): Pandain, Grackaroni, Mocsta, Ace, Ticktock, Acrofales, LightningStrike, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Meapak_Ziphh
Ace (7): Oatsmaster, Rels, Jockmcplop, Chezinu, [UoN]Sentinel, darthfoley, Vivax
Chezinu (4): Alakaslam, Fecalfeast, sicklucker, sicklucker
Not voting (2): ExO_, Tubesock
Day Four Final Vote Count
Chezinu (7): sicklucker, Rels, sicklucker, darthfoley, Grackaroni, LighningStrike, Vivax
Tubesock (7): Mocsta, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Chezinu, Fecalfeast, Acrofales, Alakaslam
sicklucker (3): Meapak_Ziphh, ExO_, Pandain
Meapak_Ziphh (1): Oatsmaster
Oatsmaster (1): tubesock
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