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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2019 11:20 GMT
#4911
Well jock can possibly be mafia i guess.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2019 11:27 GMT
#4915
On March 07 2019 20:20 Mocsta wrote:
Congrats, you won the last mayor, and in my opinion wrecked town atmosphere.

The problem here is Mocsta that there are also players unlike 90% of the people who actually want to get some personal pleasure out of this game besides lynching random lurkers who are afraid (or otherwise incapable) of posting. I would have never had any fun with this game if people just lynched players from post count 0 -> (which is often the most correct play for like the first three days). Sometimes you make mistakes, sometimes you make horrible mistakes, but oh well, that happens.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2019 11:28 GMT
#4918
On March 07 2019 20:27 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 20:26 Holyflare wrote:
Why aren't you lynching bh mocsta?
i dont have a firm read on him.

i dunno i liked him this cycle actually + im waiting for you to tell me what alignment information is revealed if he flips town or mafia.

i truly have no idea where we will be if hes a mislynch, and that concerns me.

I haven't read any posts from BH since D1 and he is not town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2019 11:31 GMT
#4920
correct
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2019 11:32 GMT
#4922
should have done it stronger on D1 when there was smart people still alive but unfortunately work came.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2019 11:53 GMT
#4930
Here is the last addition to my points on Acrofales, after this i will stop and probably afk.

On March 06 2019 00:29 Acrofales wrote:
[...]

So. Lets see, where does rsoultin go with her investigation into Palmar. I tell you, it's nowhere. She doesn't try to engage with Palmar. She doesn't analyse Palmar's posts. Nada. She just throws shade:

Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 18:32 rsoultin wrote:
On March 03 2019 18:27 Holyflare wrote:
When did I ever make a case on rayn wtf?


You didn't that I recall.

Though I like his Palmar read.

Rayn at the time had a pretty weak scumread on Palmar based on (1) Palmar thinking I was looking townie, and (2) Palmar wanting to policy kill Sent. There really wasn't much there, but this is literally the only justification for rsoultin going after Palmar [...]

This is a big part of his case on rsoultin. rsoultin's early read on Palmar and where it came from. At this point Palmar had said;
- not gonna play, it's weekend
- Policy lynch Sentinel
- HF might be town
- "thanks i hate it" on one of my posts, whatever that meant
- some more posts which say "lynch Sentinel"

rsoultin agreed at the time with my read on Palmar, and Acrofales criticises the reasoning. The problem is that this is Acrofales' reasoning for me thinking Palmar is mafia:
(1) Palmar thinking I [acro] was looking townie
(2) Palmar wanting to policy kill Sent

First of all (1) had never happened at that time.
Second of all, for (2), i have absolutely no idea where he read rayn scumreads Palmar for wanting to lynch Sentinel, because these are all my words on Palmar at that point;
iamperfection actually looks really townie from later posts. I am okay with him being mayor. (Or go with Palmars plan, although he is prolly mafia but i cba of he just kills sentinel).

I think Palmar found an easy way out to "play" during weekend on sentinel and os trying to look better. I dont really believe he comes and says "hi see you on monday i dont play on weekends" and then starts reading the thread anyways as town. If you know palmar you probably know what i mean.

I mean i literally encouraged his policy lynch rather than find it scummy.

Okay so, let's pretend Acrofales made a mistake with timestamps and pretend i had all my stuff on Palmar already. here's the rest of what i updated on my read on him:
On March 04 2019 20:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 20:07 Palmar wrote:
On March 04 2019 20:05 Holyflare wrote:
On March 04 2019 19:35 Acrofales wrote:
On March 04 2019 19:29 Palmar wrote:
On March 04 2019 19:27 Acrofales wrote:
On March 04 2019 19:20 Holyflare wrote:
On March 04 2019 07:29 Acrofales wrote:
On March 04 2019 07:22 Holyflare wrote:
Acro, wave, oats, rayn, chez, ls, mocsta(?) (+a shit tonne of others that elude me) will be the lynch today. There's really so many people I could easily lynch and just not care tbh.

Acro is town.

Wave, oats I'm on board with.

Rayn is a no. Your fight with him didn't give me scum vibes on either of you. Just made me want to tear my hair out.

Chez also a no. He seems fine.

LS I can't figure out, and can't be bothered to right now as I already have enough ppl I want to lynch.

Mocsta said before the game he wouldn't be around and he wasn't around. His few posts don't seem scummy, but he'd better start playing tomorrow.


Mate you really are mafia lol

?

He's pointing out you seem to have switched opinions on rayn

I have. The longer rayn goes without shitting up the thread the more I suspect him of scummy shenanigans.

That's not to say scumrayn isn't an abusive asshole. He's generally more tunnelly as scum than as town, at least in my obviously imperfect recollection. But rayn is being uncharacteristically passive and the longer it goes the more I suspect him.

Town rayn shits up the thread trying to find scum. Scum rayn shits up the thread for the sake of shitting up the thread. But rayn never doesn't shut up the thread. New behavior is weird. And probably scum weird.


Why does rayn's activity have anything to do with his alignment? Palmar should also know this, and it's why he's mafia because it's a poor excuse to scum read rayn when there's plenty of other reasons to.

Rayn works long hours so often goes long times without activity. The last thing he did when he was here was shit up the thread. This is a poor flip flop acro.


Rayn did quickly defuse when I was arguing with him though, although some of it may be my reluctance to engage in the argument with him.

I don't know what it means.

Yeah i tried to actually talk with you when you asked me to, then you never answered anything but with nonsense posts and then left.. So there is that.

this one isn't entirely about acrofales, and definitely NOT because he read him town
On March 04 2019 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[....]
You literally said nothing in your post towards acro except that you basically confessed you had a townread on him based on shit things and that you hadn't actually read him at all and apparently weren't even willing to do that.

So mr. Palmar now you are just lying.

I can maybe see how this turns into just "he townread Acro" in some idiots mind, but even if that was the case Palmar himself confessed he was guilty of this so how can rsoultin (or me) be blamed of being mafia because of a "shit scumread" when we actually called out CORRECT things regardless of Palmar's affiliation?? (note that while this is not a reason why rsoultin scumread Palmar, but Acrofales thought it is so it's relevant to the case).




How can any fucking townie not read things above properly enough to:
1) call rsoultin scum based on that
2) what i bolded in red

?????????????
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2019 11:54 GMT
#4931
On March 07 2019 20:39 Holyflare wrote:
The absolutely optimal play here is to ignore vivax because now he will be stuck in this world for the remainder of the game playing as +1 mafia vote.

On March 07 2019 08:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax doesnt matter because he counts as three mafia when he is town, i wouldnt be surprised if he started seriously calling marv mafia right now and even that wouldnt make him mafia.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2019 12:13 GMT
#4934
Why aren't the relevant posts in your case? And please do, because you can't find them.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2019 12:14 GMT
#4936
I an going to tell you if you can find the relevant posts that support your argument that i bolded in red in my post i will promise you i will never call you mafia in this game anymore.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2019 12:31 GMT
#4939
I literally just explained why neither of those posts should be part of your read, i even quoted the Palmar parts from them. Like wtf?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2019 12:31 GMT
#4940
I even took account the timestamp mistake.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2019 12:33 GMT
#4942
But okay, point (2) should be clear from my part because i explained it.

Point (1); Where the fuck do you get the impression "rayn scumreads Palmar for him townreading Acrofales from those two posts?????????????? Where do i even remotely imply so?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2019 12:35 GMT
#4943
On March 07 2019 21:31 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I literally just explained why neither of those posts should be part of your read, i even quoted the Palmar parts from them. Like wtf?

You wanted an explanation, I gave it. This conversation is over.

I wanted an explanation that makes sense and this does make zero sense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2019 12:46 GMT
#4947
On March 07 2019 21:40 Acrofales wrote:
If you didn't want people to think you scumread Palmar, maybe you shouldn't say so.

Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 18:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:although he is prolly mafia
Quick summary, more on when i get on computer (aka wake up again)..

iamperfection actually looks really townie from later posts. I am okay with him being mayor. (Or go with Palmars plan, although he is prolly mafia but i cba of he just kills sentinel).

Holyflare is mafia. He made a complete trashcan case on me that's factually incorrect and followed it up by "i dont understand any of his townreads", which if he believed in should always warrant a vote on me. Yet he just leaves it to it and does nothing. Very very mafia.

rsoultin made the saddest series of posts basicalöy ever where she calls me "you look very town but i am wary" and after hf's trash case i am suddenly her #2 scumread. I mean this is literally the stupidest thing i have read anywhere this year... i am scum because i look town and hf said things that arent even true? Okay.... sadly enough i dont think it makea her mafia but i am never gonna believe she wiöl make rational decisions towards me / bssed on what i say so i have no intention of wasting my time talking to her.

Then there are tubesock and slam who +1 both of above. I'd say one mafia there. Slam has looked a bit more town lately and certainly isnt even rwading rhe game based on his posts so who knows..

I think Palmar found an easy way out to "play" during weekend on sentinel and os trying to look better. I dont really believe he comes and says "hi see you on monday i dont play on weekends" and then starts reading the thread anyways as town. If you know palmar you probably know what i mean.

Oatsmaster is very likely to be town and hf's meta read on him is completely incorrect. Not that oats is helping much or isn't a headless chicken but that doesnt mean he is mafia, in fact it meeans the opposite quite often.

Acrofales has only talked about lurker after lurker after lurker. More likely to be scum. Only real read he gave was TT based on one post that he disageed with (liked the tone), but then wants him as mayor???!?!?!? Why do yoi want someone you dont think is right to be mayor?!?! Like why the fuck would you ever want that?

Now good more night.

You say it twice. Do I think it was a particularly strong read? No. But do I think you're scumming Palmar at this point? Hell yes. And why? For the policy lynch thingy.

Then we add on the later to posts where you are boggled by Palmar townreading me, and I just added it onto the "grievances Rayn has with Palmar" list.

Right. Now I am really truly done with this. Focusing on more important stuff.

I am scumming Palmar at that point yes. For the policy lynch? No. I literally said why i was scumming Palmar in the same post, it FUCKING SAYS THERE WHY I AM SCUMMING PALMAR, and it's not because of policy lynch.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2019 12:47 GMT
#4949
Like you even bolded the part where i say why i think Palmar is mafia and it doesn't have either policy or lynch words on it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2019 12:48 GMT
#4951
Acrofales is full of shit and should die.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2019 13:04 GMT
#4957
Come on HF Rels' role is not mafia ever.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2019 13:11 GMT
#4964
On March 07 2019 22:08 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 22:06 Vivax wrote:
On March 07 2019 22:02 Holyflare wrote:
On March 07 2019 21:57 Vivax wrote:
On March 07 2019 21:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 07 2019 19:51 Vivax wrote:
And that's the first guy to call out the entire mafia team.

I want a prize post game.

This feels real disingenuous. I can't really explain why.

Vivax do you believe everything you wrote on this page?


I had an aha moment yes. It just fits all too well.

Could you name off the top of your head who HF is scumreading?


Pretty impossible because I don't even particularly know.

If I had to outline some names:

Ace, BH, BC, Slam, Darthfoley, exo, Chezinu

Possibilities of:

Tumblewood, rels, jock, oats, ls


Forgetting FF who you just wrote about. Good stuff.



With which I prefaced "i don't know what to think about this" suggesting I want input and answers from others and himself

I dont think he is mafia but he needs to explain the vote on you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2019 13:24 GMT
#4976
On March 07 2019 22:15 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +

Prediction : Rayn and mocsta will both end up on BH anyway.

Nah i wont be changing my vote, even if it comes close between bh and hf. I seriously hate the fact hf is incapable of even remotely discussing my case after some un-analystic post about it so i cba anymore.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 07 2019 13:28 GMT
#4981
On March 07 2019 22:26 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 22:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 07 2019 22:15 Vivax wrote:

Prediction : Rayn and mocsta will both end up on BH anyway.

Nah i wont be changing my vote, even if it comes close between bh and hf. I seriously hate the fact hf is incapable of even remotely discussing my case after some un-analystic post about it so i cba anymore.


I looked at your case and I didn't agree with it. I'm finding it hard to follow your latest case on him. He said something about rsoul/you that was based on a false read palmar gave? Is that right?

youre late already. go read if you care its all there.
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