EPT[M][T] Secret Hitler, Act I, Take II - Page 4
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On November 01 2018 07:20 Conversion wrote: also you fixating on a point on me "lying" is really inane and forced trying to generate content when no one's paying attention to you also I hope we draw F/F/F and descend in to chaos you might not believe me, but I actually think lying is a scummy thing to do. And you did lie, as you stated two contradicting things. Also I think this response is scummy. It doesn't fit into the careless attitude you showed, because you are clearly bothered by it. Also instead of explaining why you said what you said as town (what town should be capable of), you decided to attack me and my credibility, calling it an desperate attempt of generating content. Also you made this post, which I interpret as an attempt of making me look stupid On November 01 2018 07:19 Conversion wrote: you could have read nothing but my last post and gotten that conclusion congrats! Where I stated that trying to figure out your argument was confusing me (before I read your last post of course), which I admit was unnecessary to state as I already realized it doesn't matter anyways. But the way you attacked me on it, together with the second post, seems like scum trying to defend themself by making the person with the argument look bad opposed to trying to convince him that argument was flawed. | ||
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On November 01 2018 08:17 Grackaroni wrote: lol. I don't know what Conversion's deal is right now but I think he's probably town. why? If I remember correctly I had problems with reading town players as mafia, who were actually just careless or had a toxic attitude, so I am genuinely interested. | ||
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On November 01 2018 11:33 Grackaroni wrote: I think the tone that he has can be surprisingly hard to fake as mafia it's not how mafia players usually approach the game. So It's a read you make by experience? | ||
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On November 01 2018 11:53 Conversion wrote: so what makes you so sure that I was lying instead of literally forgetting what I wrote? If you're forgot what you wrote and then write a contradicting statement, you have to be scum. If it really was your opinion, that we should vote no, because of information we can get out of the votes, you wouldn't say you don't care about the votes later.You would still have that opinion, whether you remember already writing it or not. So even if you forgot what you wrote, one of the statements is still false, therefore you lied. | ||
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On November 01 2018 18:36 happykrogan wrote: If you're forgot what you wrote and then write a contradicting statement, you have to be scum. If it really was your opinion, that we should vote no, because of information we can get out of the votes, you wouldn't say you don't care about the votes later.You would still have that opinion, whether you remember already writing it or not. So even if you forgot what you wrote, one of the statements is still false, therefore you lied. @Grackaroni @Raynpelikoneet How can such behaviour ever come from town? | ||
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I am not entirely confident in the team, but if I would only vote teams of two players I townread I would almost never vote yes. And Grack and prplhz are at least less scummy then Rels/Conversion/byj And whatever happens, we always get information out of it, so I generally prefer voting yes anyway. | ||
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On November 02 2018 23:51 Conversion wrote: interesting. @HK Can I get some clarification on what team would make sense, since you are so steadfast in believing that I am scum through my lying nature? Would it be me-byj, or me-rels? My problem is that you appaer really scummy to me, but rayn who played way more than me (and is most likely town as he enacted a liberal policy where could have enacted a fascist one) and Grack (who I have nothing against except your joke/communication which was probably nothing) read you as town. So I am really torn right now. Also you look better now. I planned looking into you again when I have to(when you're the presidential candidate). That lying will bother me the whole game though... As for your question: Neither of them is more probable than the other, as you don't really mention each other. | ||
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And at least we will get informationout of it. | ||
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On November 02 2018 23:35 Grackaroni wrote: After lots of paranoia I'm actually going to vote NO on this team. I don't trust the way Rayn/HK are both pushing the idea that the scum team is just the two lurkers byj/rels, even though neither of them have done anything specifically scummy, and I think that probably one of Rayn/HK will be scum. I'm uneasy about the fact that it doesn't seem like I can pass the team that I actually think is town in Me/conversion, but this team is already set to pass between Rayn/HK/prplhz/Conversion voting yes. Also, despite actually posting, Prplhz isn't showing any sign of thinking about people's alignments and I don't like that rather than trying to evaluate my alignment he posts this nonsense: I feel pretty uneasy about this atm so instead I'm going to try to push through Conversion's team. And I actually feel a bit better about Kitaman for the post questioning why byj is scummy, so I'm ok with trying Kitaman's team as a fallback. | ||
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I wanted to say that this post is really towny. Gracks on town list again. | ||
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On November 03 2018 00:17 Conversion wrote: I have a pretty big problem with this-- you seem to have (or had) a rather strong read in me being a facist, and you threw out two other names (byj, Rels). if you can't see a logical connection just because we don't mention each other, are you saying the entire team lies in byj/conversion/rels? If you're not willing to make a deeper read, or connect the dots, why are the three names in there? Are you just objectively evaluating persons individually without a thought to the larger team at hand (this is ok, I'm just trying to understand how those names got there) or do you see a world in which I am not facist-- in which case, which of the two remaining (Byj, rels) is more facist to you, and what do you think the team will be? as @Grack mentioned, just having your entire pool in AFKers/barely playing people isn't great yes. I didn't really tried to find a team connection yet. I just listed scummy individuals. And not mentioning each other doesn't mean you are not im a team. I will read through some filters later until I can give you an answer to the other question that will satisfy myself. | ||
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On November 03 2018 00:25 kitaman27 wrote: Could you give me the spark notes version of who you view as facist and more importantly, why? If you're feeling better about conversion and would pass a grack/prpl team, I'm struggling to get an idea of who you think the bad guys are. As I am conflicted about Conversion I don't really have someone I am convinced is a fascist right now. I have a few people I think are scummy and I would prefer not to vote. Conversion: Lying but I reconsider him when he is presidential candidate Rels: What Rayn said + being inactive but writing some easy to make oneliners when he is in thread Examples: On October 30 2018 22:15 Rels wrote: As opposed to what ? Hard to read ? What's the benefit of that ? On October 31 2018 06:19 Rels wrote: I don't know if you've ever played with rayn, but that is not something I would townread him for. On October 31 2018 06:27 Rels wrote: Grack one is he one where he says prp could be scum and kita Hitler. If I rzmember correctly. Not at home so if you don't find it I'll find it later I think Inactivity + a few generic posts is a lot more scummier than just not writing anything byj: less scummy than rels. posted nothing mentionworth except this: after I asked him to contribute more. The only read he has and it's an easy to make a read about one post. Generally my gameplan is not really to find scum, but town so I can vote them. But then I realized if I only vote my top townreads I almost always will vote no, so I will at least vote now for information. So I voted yes here even if haze is slightly scummy (because Conversion after him is more scummy - at least at the time I made the vote) | ||
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prplhz listening stuff why Grack is scummy after he got elected at chancellor seems like setting up a 1v1 after a scum policy gets enacted. Just realized that. | ||
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On November 03 2018 06:24 prplhz wrote: i listed stuff because rayn asked me to i don't think scum benefit from doing 1v1 in their first election You don't list stuff if you don't believe in them | ||
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On November 03 2018 06:26 happykrogan wrote: You don't list stuff if you don't believe in them as town. | ||
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