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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 04:42 GMT
#713
well I now know the pain of being in the Americas in this forum going to sleep
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 12:54 GMT
#716
On November 07 2018 18:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I gotta go to work. kitaman i am going to vote yes to your team if you pick Grackaroni.
I am probably going to downvote rels' team regardless of what he does. He does make a little bit sense but i am sorry i just am not going to straight up trust anyone who starts playing a week after the game starts.

Stop being irrational please
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 12:59 GMT
#718
On November 07 2018 21:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Its your fault ig you dont play for a week, not mine.

The goal of the game is to win, not to punish rayn s arbitrary activity thresholds. Stop being irrational
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 13:01 GMT
#719
And that's also not true at all. You are the biggest problem to me on this game. I've started playing seriously D2, getting along with a few people, then you were irrational already and didn't communicate with me because reasons. That makes no sense
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 13:05 GMT
#720
On November 07 2018 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The possibility of drawing FFF is 6/8 x 5/7 x 4/6 which is approx 35,7%
So about 65% of the time we hit at least one liberal (well i'd stop right away if we get liberal anyways).

If we happen to hit FFF the deck is resuffled.
Second fascist policy goes to krogan who i believe is town, he gets the investigation. I would trust the result. krogan can investigate kitaman.
Third fascist policy goes to kitaman, in case he is town. If not then we will do something else but we know kitaman (or at least one of krogan / kitaman) is mafia.

Is there anyone who believes that krogan is mafia? Because in my opinion from the presidents (if you think someone is mafia there) Grackaroni looks the worst for not passing FL instead of LL (passibg FL to prplhz is the correct play there). That's not much, but still a possiblilty, i would find it more likely that mafia are just rels/byj/kitaman/(prplhz).

Is this post still your current reads ? You've just said you would be voting yes to kita grack. Why do you want to vote YES to 2 people that you think are more likely to be scum than 4 other people ? When you could just wait for your turn and nominzyr whoever you want
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 14:33 GMT
#723
On November 07 2018 23:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think grackaroni is mafia and i want to use the investigation over you (or people after me) because i am sure as hell more trustworthy than you/byj/prplhz regardless of affiliations of any of yours.

That seems just so backward. The goal is to pass liberal policies. If we get to using powers it means we failed a little bit
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 14:33 GMT
#724
Plus you're supposed to be able to read me very well, you don't need investigation
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 14:35 GMT
#725
Plus you re not coherent. In the last page you were like "maybe Rels is town but I will punish him because I'm a bully that punishes people that don't play the way I like". And now you're back to me being scummier than anyone else
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 14:35 GMT
#726
On November 07 2018 23:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 23:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think grackaroni is mafia and i want to use the investigation over you (or people after me) because i am sure as hell more trustworthy than you/byj/prplhz regardless of affiliations of any of yours.

Or kita/grack enacts liberal or me/conversion enact liberal after.

Since kita is very likely scum, it won't happen
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 15:36 GMT
#730
On November 08 2018 00:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I never said you are maybe town, and honestly idc what you think rn since i can win this game with conversion and two other townies whoever they are.

Well if you are town you can ruin it if you are retarded but anyone who is town is insane if they think either me or conversion is mafia.

Well whatever you said, that I was making more sense or something

Dunno why you think I want to ruin the game, don't know why you think I scum read you or conversation when I probably townread conversion before you. You re the one ruining my fun of playing the game here, but I'll just talk to other people I guess
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 15:40 GMT
#731
On November 08 2018 00:36 Conversion wrote:
so kita should elect grack I think? and then if a facist gets passed, we pass and rayn elects who he wants and it's a win win either way, bigger win we get liberal policy, pretty big win if facist is passed and he gets investigative.

if kita/grack gets a liberal passed, we enact rels+rayn team, and if this yields a a facist policy we set up investigative for rayn going into as 4L 1F, which is an even more ideal position

the only real problem with this plan is if rayn is not liberal ofc, but I have no reason to believe that the moment

I see your intent but I disagree since I'm pretty sure kita is scum. We can pass kita, elect me/Grack; then if a facsist pass you can go on with your plan, if a liberal passes we have basically won
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 16:04 GMT
#735
On November 08 2018 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2018 00:36 Rels wrote:
On November 08 2018 00:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I never said you are maybe town, and honestly idc what you think rn since i can win this game with conversion and two other townies whoever they are.

Well if you are town you can ruin it if you are retarded but anyone who is town is insane if they think either me or conversion is mafia.

Well whatever you said, that I was making more sense or something

Dunno why you think I want to ruin the game, don't know why you think I scum read you or conversation when I probably townread conversion before you. You re the one ruining my fun of playing the game here, but I'll just talk to other people I guess

Then you should have played when it mattered. You dont get to come here and tell why i am an idiot ehen you once again fucking afkd bssically for a week. Your d2 "playing" was what i could have done on maybe 15 minutes, and you didnt even vote d3 so yeah... there you go.

You're the reason I didn't play D3. I was getting up to speed D2 and you bullied me with nonsensical reasons. You're still blinded by your self righteousness and don't want to admit I made the scum team show face before deadline
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 16:24 GMT
#738
Lol
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 16:26 GMT
#740
On November 08 2018 01:22 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will say something though, that i have been keeping to my chest for a while. Why were you more certain of krogan being town than me being town at some point during the game, kita? I mean the point when for example the prplhz discussion was going on. krogan did absolutely nothing during maybe 2 irl-days other than rewrote my posts.


I think Krogan deserved the town cred from the first election where he had the opportunity to pass FF and claim FFF, where as you had less of a choice. If I had the opportunity now, I'd choose you over krogan since you're still trying to find a path to victory and he has kinda dropped off, but I still think you're both town regardless.

I'm going to go ahead and choose grack. I have a pretty strong town read on him and I think the plan to put the DT check in rayn's hand is a good one. If we're lucky, we'll just hit the 65% liberal policy chance on my presidency and the game will kinda be over anyways.

Rels is obviously going for a hail marry with that team that makes little sense and he showed very little interest in the game early on to suddenly think he conveniently "solved" the game.

That makes no sense for you to plan for a investigation check if you think you, Grack, rayn and conversion are town. In that scenario, the chance that we have 6 F in a row is ridiculous. The other players are planning about it because they're not sure of our alignment. But from your POV it makes no sense
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 16:31 GMT
#741
On November 08 2018 01:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you got mad at me because i disagreed with your "there is scum in krogan / rayn kthxbye" sentiment then you should have probably explained it better as i asked you to do and just not ditch the game instead. You provided no reasoning that makes sense to anyone who is town other than posaibly you, and you are, or ahoud be, bright enough to know thats not a convincing argument to oter people than yourself.

I had nothing to explain, it was a small thought without much reasoning that you blew out of proportion. That was the reason I wanted to talk to you about it, it was because it was just a hunch without much thought.

By nonsensical reason I was mostly referring to your burst about the fact that I should have known the rules about a game that I never played and the op said otherwise
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 16:42 GMT
#745
On November 08 2018 01:32 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2018 01:26 Rels wrote:
On November 08 2018 01:22 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 07 2018 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will say something though, that i have been keeping to my chest for a while. Why were you more certain of krogan being town than me being town at some point during the game, kita? I mean the point when for example the prplhz discussion was going on. krogan did absolutely nothing during maybe 2 irl-days other than rewrote my posts.


I think Krogan deserved the town cred from the first election where he had the opportunity to pass FF and claim FFF, where as you had less of a choice. If I had the opportunity now, I'd choose you over krogan since you're still trying to find a path to victory and he has kinda dropped off, but I still think you're both town regardless.

I'm going to go ahead and choose grack. I have a pretty strong town read on him and I think the plan to put the DT check in rayn's hand is a good one. If we're lucky, we'll just hit the 65% liberal policy chance on my presidency and the game will kinda be over anyways.

Rels is obviously going for a hail marry with that team that makes little sense and he showed very little interest in the game early on to suddenly think he conveniently "solved" the game.

That makes no sense for you to plan for a investigation check if you think you, Grack, rayn and conversion are town. In that scenario, the chance that we have 6 F in a row is ridiculous. The other players are planning about it because they're not sure of our alignment. But from your POV it makes no sense


That's just the fallback plan. Like I said several times, "If we're lucky, we'll just hit the 65% liberal policy chance on my presidency and the game will kinda be over anyways."

The fallback plan still doesn't make sense. If you get FFF, rayn duo are almost guaranteed to have a liberal policy in their choices.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 16:43 GMT
#746
It makes sense from the other to prepare for the eventuality that you or me discard a liberal policy, and rayn gets FFF. But if you're town this scenario can't happen
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 19:40 GMT
#750
On November 08 2018 02:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2018 01:42 Rels wrote:
On November 08 2018 01:32 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 08 2018 01:26 Rels wrote:
On November 08 2018 01:22 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 07 2018 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will say something though, that i have been keeping to my chest for a while. Why were you more certain of krogan being town than me being town at some point during the game, kita? I mean the point when for example the prplhz discussion was going on. krogan did absolutely nothing during maybe 2 irl-days other than rewrote my posts.


I think Krogan deserved the town cred from the first election where he had the opportunity to pass FF and claim FFF, where as you had less of a choice. If I had the opportunity now, I'd choose you over krogan since you're still trying to find a path to victory and he has kinda dropped off, but I still think you're both town regardless.

I'm going to go ahead and choose grack. I have a pretty strong town read on him and I think the plan to put the DT check in rayn's hand is a good one. If we're lucky, we'll just hit the 65% liberal policy chance on my presidency and the game will kinda be over anyways.

Rels is obviously going for a hail marry with that team that makes little sense and he showed very little interest in the game early on to suddenly think he conveniently "solved" the game.

That makes no sense for you to plan for a investigation check if you think you, Grack, rayn and conversion are town. In that scenario, the chance that we have 6 F in a row is ridiculous. The other players are planning about it because they're not sure of our alignment. But from your POV it makes no sense


That's just the fallback plan. Like I said several times, "If we're lucky, we'll just hit the 65% liberal policy chance on my presidency and the game will kinda be over anyways."

The fallback plan still doesn't make sense. If you get FFF, rayn duo are almost guaranteed to have a liberal policy in their choices.


That's a good thing since it would mean we would be at 5 liberal and 1 facist.

And if we get really unlucky with the 2 liberal cards at the bottom of the deck then we have the DT fallback, but I think it's like 3.5% chance of happening if everyone was truthful with their draws.

Ok. Your off subject. I'm attacking this part of your post:
On November 08 2018 01:22 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and choose grack. I have a pretty strong town read on him and I think the plan to put the DT check in rayn's hand is a good one. If we're lucky, we'll just hit the 65% liberal policy chance on my presidency and the game will kinda be over anyways.

This reasoning seems very reasonable at first glance, but you cannot have made it as town. If you're town and since you strongly townread Grack, the " I think the plan to put the DT check in rayn's hand is a good one" is not something you could have thought, since it has no chance of happening; if you get unlucky and get FFF, rayn is almost sure to have a liberal card, and thus don't have investigative power.

I think you submitted the Grack choice to hosts then wrote this little paragraph to justify it without much thoughts. It was a seemingly reasonable paragraph at first glance, but it doesn't make sense if you're town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 19:47 GMT
#751
On November 08 2018 04:27 byj wrote:
I voted yes, but anybody by chance has the %s of there being FFF?
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 12:36 Rels wrote:
all this talk about this "plan" seems just so naïve.

I still think it's a good plan and not naive =]

Kita calculated it to 35%. Just did it and I also find 36%. Why are you voting yes ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 20:37 GMT
#755
On November 08 2018 05:28 byj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2018 04:47 Rels wrote:
On November 08 2018 04:27 byj wrote:
I voted yes, but anybody by chance has the %s of there being FFF?
On November 07 2018 12:36 Rels wrote:
all this talk about this "plan" seems just so naïve.

I still think it's a good plan and not naive =]

Kita calculated it to 35%. Just did it and I also find 36%. Why are you voting yes ?

Oh that's high. Because I trust Grack, but I expected the FFF chance to be lower. I don't trust kita enough to leave him a 33% excuse, is it possible to change my vote?

I assume you can until deadline
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