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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2018 18:26 GMT
#319
Let's just say I don't get buddied by mafia very often because I'm not usually worth buddying.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2018 18:30 GMT
#321
On November 02 2018 03:29 kitaman27 wrote:
Awww I'm totally going to buddy the heck out of you the next time I get a chance as scum <3

As long as you don't send me any bananas.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2018 18:35 GMT
#322
I changed my selection to Prplhz.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2018 18:41 GMT
#325
On November 02 2018 03:36 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2018 03:35 Grackaroni wrote:
I changed my selection to Prplhz.


Because you think he has a better chance than not to be town or because you think it's the only thing that would pass and you want to see something get passed this cycle?

Mostly the second one but I don't have anything against prplhz.

I agree with Rayn that Me/conversion probably won't pass and then Conversion's team also isn't going to pass.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 14:23 GMT
#345
On November 02 2018 23:21 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2018 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I aisi have absolutely zero idea how anyone could ever think byj is even remotely townie, so that read of yours sounds like bs. Unless you have some extremely through meta-analysis.


I went by his single game in the database:
https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/533201-elementary-mafia?user=byj

Dude had a bunch of 1 liners, didn't really care how he looked, and ended up getting mislynched as town. I definitely don't feel good about having him in my top 4, but I think he looks slightly better than prpl at the moment and is more of an afk than having done anything inherently scummy so far.


+1 to this.

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 14:35 GMT
#347
After lots of paranoia I'm actually going to vote NO on this team.

I don't trust the way Rayn/HK are both pushing the idea that the scum team is just the two lurkers byj/rels, even though neither of them have done anything specifically scummy, and I think that probably one of Rayn/HK will be scum.

I'm uneasy about the fact that it doesn't seem like I can pass the team that I actually think is town in Me/conversion, but this team is already set to pass between Rayn/HK/prplhz/Conversion voting yes.

Also, despite actually posting, Prplhz isn't showing any sign of thinking about people's alignments and I don't like that rather than trying to evaluate my alignment he posts this nonsense:

On November 02 2018 09:59 prplhz wrote:
No wait a second.

Assuming that krogan told the truth about the cards, what are the odds of grack getting 1 or less liberal policies?

On November 02 2018 10:00 prplhz wrote:
I think it's acceptable if we already discarded 1L and 2F.


I feel pretty uneasy about this atm so instead I'm going to try to push through Conversion's team. And I actually feel a bit better about Kitaman for the post questioning why byj is scummy, so I'm ok with trying Kitaman's team as a fallback.

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 14:41 GMT
#349
To be clearer regarding prplhz, he takes no stance on my alignment and just says that probabilities should make approving the team worthwhile for him regardless of what I am. (they don't.)
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 14:47 GMT
#351
On November 02 2018 23:41 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2018 23:35 Grackaroni wrote:
After lots of paranoia I'm actually going to vote NO on this team.

I don't trust the way Rayn/HK are both pushing the idea that the scum team is just the two lurkers byj/rels, even though neither of them have done anything specifically scummy, and I think that probably one of Rayn/HK will be scum.

I'm uneasy about the fact that it doesn't seem like I can pass the team that I actually think is town in Me/conversion, but this team is already set to pass between Rayn/HK/prplhz/Conversion voting yes.

Also, despite actually posting, Prplhz isn't showing any sign of thinking about people's alignments and I don't like that rather than trying to evaluate my alignment he posts this nonsense:

On November 02 2018 09:59 prplhz wrote:
No wait a second.

Assuming that krogan told the truth about the cards, what are the odds of grack getting 1 or less liberal policies?

On November 02 2018 10:00 prplhz wrote:
I think it's acceptable if we already discarded 1L and 2F.


I feel pretty uneasy about this atm so instead I'm going to try to push through Conversion's team. And I actually feel a bit better about Kitaman for the post questioning why byj is scummy, so I'm ok with trying Kitaman's team as a fallback.



Who would you have me vote (besides yourself) for chancellor? keeping in mind people will most not likely push me through anyways..

I would probably still put Rayn over anyone else, but I think town has gotten itself way too complacent in assuming Rayn/Krogan are both town from the first policy.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 14:47 GMT
#353
On November 02 2018 23:47 Conversion wrote:
also to @Grack I felt like HK was more focused on calling me scum (not sure who he thinks my partner is in that case) than byj/rels, no?

He says me/prp are above you/byj/Rels.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 14:48 GMT
#354
I certainly don't believe that the mafia team are just the low content posters this game.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 14:53 GMT
#357
Oh I forgot you actually can't choose Rayn/HK
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 16:42 GMT
#378
On November 03 2018 01:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2018 23:35 Grackaroni wrote:
After lots of paranoia I'm actually going to vote NO on this team.

I don't trust the way Rayn/HK are both pushing the idea that the scum team is just the two lurkers byj/rels, even though neither of them have done anything specifically scummy, and I think that probably one of Rayn/HK will be scum.

I'm uneasy about the fact that it doesn't seem like I can pass the team that I actually think is town in Me/conversion, but this team is already set to pass between Rayn/HK/prplhz/Conversion voting yes.

Also, despite actually posting, Prplhz isn't showing any sign of thinking about people's alignments and I don't like that rather than trying to evaluate my alignment he posts this nonsense:

On November 02 2018 09:59 prplhz wrote:
No wait a second.

Assuming that krogan told the truth about the cards, what are the odds of grack getting 1 or less liberal policies?

On November 02 2018 10:00 prplhz wrote:
I think it's acceptable if we already discarded 1L and 2F.


I feel pretty uneasy about this atm so instead I'm going to try to push through Conversion's team. And I actually feel a bit better about Kitaman for the post questioning why byj is scummy, so I'm ok with trying Kitaman's team as a fallback.


I dont think its a good idea because even if one of us is scum you either out prplhz or he enacts liberal, or president gets FFF in which case you always wanna bd presiddnt yourself (if youre town).

I also think your argument on byj/rels is just dumb because based on meta apparently there is no information on byj, and for both of them -- people who do scummy things are usually scum.

Conversion will pick you most likely so for that part i dont care if you downvote the team. I just dont think Conversion's team is gonna be accepted. And if we have scum president to lead government its harder to figure out who is lying.

I don’t think Rels/Byj are scummy but excused by meta. I think they’re both just low content rather than scummy.

I’d feel more confident being paired with either Kita or Conversion, but it would be pretty bad if the team passes to Kita and he chooses Byj/prplhz.


Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 21:15 GMT
#414
Yeah I sent in a no. I made a dumb chancellor choice. I should have went with my gut and chosen Rels.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 21:24 GMT
#419
On November 03 2018 06:23 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 06:09 Rels wrote:
That actually doesn't ease my concerns at all. ALmost everything there is at charge against Grack, apart from that line about forwardness. That doesn"'t match your claimed "neutral" read of him.
On November 03 2018 00:20 prplhz wrote:
Phoneposting.

If krogan and rayn told the truth we have 5L9F in the deck.

P(0L3F) = 23
P(1L2F) = 49
P(2L1F) = 24
P(3L0F) = 2

I don't have much confidence in the (which was part of why I voted yes to Logan/rayn) but I super want to get elected.

Grack is voting against his own government, I don't get it. He chose it. If town, he has 26 chance to force liberal policy and 49 to force either liberal policy or split between me and him. That split will give a lot of info to town because I think that we both are sort of grey in town opinion.

Not wanting to elect yourself is just avoiding reasonability, "don't look at me, I didn't do anything!". I don't like it at all. I still think you should elect me though because scum Grack can't really do much without giving up a lot. I think it's super worth it.

Sorry for shitty phoneposting. #VotePRPLHZ2018.

On November 03 2018 04:48 prplhz wrote:
On November 03 2018 03:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If this government gets passed you can elect me/hk, conversion.

Prplhz any reads? Why is grack scum?

Uh, I think he started the whole mess about me and kita but then he sort of slipped out of it and just stood on the sidelines.

He made a post about probabilities that I sort of disagreed with and looked like he was just spreading chaos.

His posting style has some sort of straight forwardsness to it that I associate with townies so that's good.

I don't like how he's treating this election this though, voting no to himself, but you should still elect me.

I don't have a ton of reads, I kind of like krogan but that's it. I'm equally uncertain about you and kita, Conversion seems to actively attempt to lose this game, I don't know if Rels always acts like this? Like he doesn't player D1 and then he doesn't really play D2 and then he complains on D3 or something. byj sort of slipped under the radar with me but kita pointed out some meta about him and tons of people play like this as town.

I was uncertain about Grackaroni and Conversion (which was part of the reason I voted for krogan and you) but I thought I'd figure out kita a bit better before long so I might be able to vote for his government but that's not really happening.


i don't have a strong read of grack, or anybody really, maybe it's slightly scum but i kinda just want to get elected. i don't think it's all that likely nor disastrous if grack passes me 2F.

If I'm scum it's quite likely that I pass you 2F.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 21:43 GMT
#430
Rels are you still here?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 21:55 GMT
#437
On November 03 2018 06:47 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 06:43 Grackaroni wrote:
Rels are you still here?

yeah ?

I don't even know what I want to ask you anymore lol.

Just some last second decision jitters.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 21:58 GMT
#438
Oh yeah I was going to ask your thoughts on a me/conversion team but w/e.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 03 2018 16:28 GMT
#470
I got L/L/F and I discarded the fascist policy.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 03 2018 16:33 GMT
#471
On November 03 2018 08:59 byj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2018 23:23 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 02 2018 23:21 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 02 2018 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I aisi have absolutely zero idea how anyone could ever think byj is even remotely townie, so that read of yours sounds like bs. Unless you have some extremely through meta-analysis.


I went by his single game in the database:
https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/533201-elementary-mafia?user=byj

Dude had a bunch of 1 liners, didn't really care how he looked, and ended up getting mislynched as town. I definitely don't feel good about having him in my top 4, but I think he looks slightly better than prpl at the moment and is more of an afk than having done anything inherently scummy so far.


+1 to this.


How do you guys feel now? Shouldn't I be practically scum now, due to not talking but voting?

What kind of a question is this?

Why did you vote no without saying anything?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 03 2018 16:39 GMT
#475
On November 04 2018 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 01:28 Grackaroni wrote:
I got L/L/F and I discarded the fascist policy.

Its okay, although i would have prolly preferred if you discarded liberal.

I considered it but I think with 2 liberal policies you really need to get an L enacted.
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