• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:54
CET 12:54
KST 20:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship2[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage1Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win62025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting RSL S3 Round of 16 [TLCH] Mission 7: Last Stand Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4 WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ RSL S3 ro16
Tourneys
BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION [ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Dating: How's your luck? Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1754 users

[M][T] Secret Hitler, Act I, Take II - Page 3

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2018 18:26 GMT
#319
Let's just say I don't get buddied by mafia very often because I'm not usually worth buddying.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2018 18:30 GMT
#321
On November 02 2018 03:29 kitaman27 wrote:
Awww I'm totally going to buddy the heck out of you the next time I get a chance as scum <3

As long as you don't send me any bananas.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2018 18:35 GMT
#322
I changed my selection to Prplhz.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 01 2018 18:41 GMT
#325
On November 02 2018 03:36 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2018 03:35 Grackaroni wrote:
I changed my selection to Prplhz.


Because you think he has a better chance than not to be town or because you think it's the only thing that would pass and you want to see something get passed this cycle?

Mostly the second one but I don't have anything against prplhz.

I agree with Rayn that Me/conversion probably won't pass and then Conversion's team also isn't going to pass.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 14:23 GMT
#345
On November 02 2018 23:21 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2018 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I aisi have absolutely zero idea how anyone could ever think byj is even remotely townie, so that read of yours sounds like bs. Unless you have some extremely through meta-analysis.


I went by his single game in the database:
https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/533201-elementary-mafia?user=byj

Dude had a bunch of 1 liners, didn't really care how he looked, and ended up getting mislynched as town. I definitely don't feel good about having him in my top 4, but I think he looks slightly better than prpl at the moment and is more of an afk than having done anything inherently scummy so far.


+1 to this.

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 14:35 GMT
#347
After lots of paranoia I'm actually going to vote NO on this team.

I don't trust the way Rayn/HK are both pushing the idea that the scum team is just the two lurkers byj/rels, even though neither of them have done anything specifically scummy, and I think that probably one of Rayn/HK will be scum.

I'm uneasy about the fact that it doesn't seem like I can pass the team that I actually think is town in Me/conversion, but this team is already set to pass between Rayn/HK/prplhz/Conversion voting yes.

Also, despite actually posting, Prplhz isn't showing any sign of thinking about people's alignments and I don't like that rather than trying to evaluate my alignment he posts this nonsense:

On November 02 2018 09:59 prplhz wrote:
No wait a second.

Assuming that krogan told the truth about the cards, what are the odds of grack getting 1 or less liberal policies?

On November 02 2018 10:00 prplhz wrote:
I think it's acceptable if we already discarded 1L and 2F.


I feel pretty uneasy about this atm so instead I'm going to try to push through Conversion's team. And I actually feel a bit better about Kitaman for the post questioning why byj is scummy, so I'm ok with trying Kitaman's team as a fallback.

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 14:41 GMT
#349
To be clearer regarding prplhz, he takes no stance on my alignment and just says that probabilities should make approving the team worthwhile for him regardless of what I am. (they don't.)
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 14:47 GMT
#351
On November 02 2018 23:41 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2018 23:35 Grackaroni wrote:
After lots of paranoia I'm actually going to vote NO on this team.

I don't trust the way Rayn/HK are both pushing the idea that the scum team is just the two lurkers byj/rels, even though neither of them have done anything specifically scummy, and I think that probably one of Rayn/HK will be scum.

I'm uneasy about the fact that it doesn't seem like I can pass the team that I actually think is town in Me/conversion, but this team is already set to pass between Rayn/HK/prplhz/Conversion voting yes.

Also, despite actually posting, Prplhz isn't showing any sign of thinking about people's alignments and I don't like that rather than trying to evaluate my alignment he posts this nonsense:

On November 02 2018 09:59 prplhz wrote:
No wait a second.

Assuming that krogan told the truth about the cards, what are the odds of grack getting 1 or less liberal policies?

On November 02 2018 10:00 prplhz wrote:
I think it's acceptable if we already discarded 1L and 2F.


I feel pretty uneasy about this atm so instead I'm going to try to push through Conversion's team. And I actually feel a bit better about Kitaman for the post questioning why byj is scummy, so I'm ok with trying Kitaman's team as a fallback.



Who would you have me vote (besides yourself) for chancellor? keeping in mind people will most not likely push me through anyways..

I would probably still put Rayn over anyone else, but I think town has gotten itself way too complacent in assuming Rayn/Krogan are both town from the first policy.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 14:47 GMT
#353
On November 02 2018 23:47 Conversion wrote:
also to @Grack I felt like HK was more focused on calling me scum (not sure who he thinks my partner is in that case) than byj/rels, no?

He says me/prp are above you/byj/Rels.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 14:48 GMT
#354
I certainly don't believe that the mafia team are just the low content posters this game.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 14:53 GMT
#357
Oh I forgot you actually can't choose Rayn/HK
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 16:42 GMT
#378
On November 03 2018 01:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2018 23:35 Grackaroni wrote:
After lots of paranoia I'm actually going to vote NO on this team.

I don't trust the way Rayn/HK are both pushing the idea that the scum team is just the two lurkers byj/rels, even though neither of them have done anything specifically scummy, and I think that probably one of Rayn/HK will be scum.

I'm uneasy about the fact that it doesn't seem like I can pass the team that I actually think is town in Me/conversion, but this team is already set to pass between Rayn/HK/prplhz/Conversion voting yes.

Also, despite actually posting, Prplhz isn't showing any sign of thinking about people's alignments and I don't like that rather than trying to evaluate my alignment he posts this nonsense:

On November 02 2018 09:59 prplhz wrote:
No wait a second.

Assuming that krogan told the truth about the cards, what are the odds of grack getting 1 or less liberal policies?

On November 02 2018 10:00 prplhz wrote:
I think it's acceptable if we already discarded 1L and 2F.


I feel pretty uneasy about this atm so instead I'm going to try to push through Conversion's team. And I actually feel a bit better about Kitaman for the post questioning why byj is scummy, so I'm ok with trying Kitaman's team as a fallback.


I dont think its a good idea because even if one of us is scum you either out prplhz or he enacts liberal, or president gets FFF in which case you always wanna bd presiddnt yourself (if youre town).

I also think your argument on byj/rels is just dumb because based on meta apparently there is no information on byj, and for both of them -- people who do scummy things are usually scum.

Conversion will pick you most likely so for that part i dont care if you downvote the team. I just dont think Conversion's team is gonna be accepted. And if we have scum president to lead government its harder to figure out who is lying.

I don’t think Rels/Byj are scummy but excused by meta. I think they’re both just low content rather than scummy.

I’d feel more confident being paired with either Kita or Conversion, but it would be pretty bad if the team passes to Kita and he chooses Byj/prplhz.


Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 21:15 GMT
#414
Yeah I sent in a no. I made a dumb chancellor choice. I should have went with my gut and chosen Rels.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 21:24 GMT
#419
On November 03 2018 06:23 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 06:09 Rels wrote:
That actually doesn't ease my concerns at all. ALmost everything there is at charge against Grack, apart from that line about forwardness. That doesn"'t match your claimed "neutral" read of him.
On November 03 2018 00:20 prplhz wrote:
Phoneposting.

If krogan and rayn told the truth we have 5L9F in the deck.

P(0L3F) = 23
P(1L2F) = 49
P(2L1F) = 24
P(3L0F) = 2

I don't have much confidence in the (which was part of why I voted yes to Logan/rayn) but I super want to get elected.

Grack is voting against his own government, I don't get it. He chose it. If town, he has 26 chance to force liberal policy and 49 to force either liberal policy or split between me and him. That split will give a lot of info to town because I think that we both are sort of grey in town opinion.

Not wanting to elect yourself is just avoiding reasonability, "don't look at me, I didn't do anything!". I don't like it at all. I still think you should elect me though because scum Grack can't really do much without giving up a lot. I think it's super worth it.

Sorry for shitty phoneposting. #VotePRPLHZ2018.

On November 03 2018 04:48 prplhz wrote:
On November 03 2018 03:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If this government gets passed you can elect me/hk, conversion.

Prplhz any reads? Why is grack scum?

Uh, I think he started the whole mess about me and kita but then he sort of slipped out of it and just stood on the sidelines.

He made a post about probabilities that I sort of disagreed with and looked like he was just spreading chaos.

His posting style has some sort of straight forwardsness to it that I associate with townies so that's good.

I don't like how he's treating this election this though, voting no to himself, but you should still elect me.

I don't have a ton of reads, I kind of like krogan but that's it. I'm equally uncertain about you and kita, Conversion seems to actively attempt to lose this game, I don't know if Rels always acts like this? Like he doesn't player D1 and then he doesn't really play D2 and then he complains on D3 or something. byj sort of slipped under the radar with me but kita pointed out some meta about him and tons of people play like this as town.

I was uncertain about Grackaroni and Conversion (which was part of the reason I voted for krogan and you) but I thought I'd figure out kita a bit better before long so I might be able to vote for his government but that's not really happening.


i don't have a strong read of grack, or anybody really, maybe it's slightly scum but i kinda just want to get elected. i don't think it's all that likely nor disastrous if grack passes me 2F.

If I'm scum it's quite likely that I pass you 2F.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 21:43 GMT
#430
Rels are you still here?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 21:55 GMT
#437
On November 03 2018 06:47 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 06:43 Grackaroni wrote:
Rels are you still here?

yeah ?

I don't even know what I want to ask you anymore lol.

Just some last second decision jitters.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2018 21:58 GMT
#438
Oh yeah I was going to ask your thoughts on a me/conversion team but w/e.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 03 2018 16:28 GMT
#470
I got L/L/F and I discarded the fascist policy.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 03 2018 16:33 GMT
#471
On November 03 2018 08:59 byj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2018 23:23 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 02 2018 23:21 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 02 2018 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I aisi have absolutely zero idea how anyone could ever think byj is even remotely townie, so that read of yours sounds like bs. Unless you have some extremely through meta-analysis.


I went by his single game in the database:
https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/533201-elementary-mafia?user=byj

Dude had a bunch of 1 liners, didn't really care how he looked, and ended up getting mislynched as town. I definitely don't feel good about having him in my top 4, but I think he looks slightly better than prpl at the moment and is more of an afk than having done anything inherently scummy so far.


+1 to this.


How do you guys feel now? Shouldn't I be practically scum now, due to not talking but voting?

What kind of a question is this?

Why did you vote no without saying anything?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 03 2018 16:39 GMT
#475
On November 04 2018 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 01:28 Grackaroni wrote:
I got L/L/F and I discarded the fascist policy.

Its okay, although i would have prolly preferred if you discarded liberal.

I considered it but I think with 2 liberal policies you really need to get an L enacted.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
09:00
Crank Gathers S2: Playoffs D4
CranKy Ducklings224
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Livibee 85
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 17258
Rain 8177
Bisu 2279
Pusan 464
Stork 370
Last 214
Hyuk 146
Leta 130
Barracks 126
ToSsGirL 114
[ Show more ]
ZerO 89
Aegong 53
Sharp 37
Liquid`Ret 37
JulyZerg 26
zelot 26
Icarus 22
Yoon 16
Free 15
sas.Sziky 10
Terrorterran 3
Dota 2
XcaliburYe753
Counter-Strike
x6flipin351
edward32
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King66
Other Games
singsing1372
crisheroes260
B2W.Neo241
Pyrionflax229
Fuzer 162
XaKoH 142
SortOf75
ZerO(Twitch)3
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL123
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 15
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 77
• LUISG 37
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2781
• Stunt620
• HappyZerGling100
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Korean Royale
6m
LAN Event
3h 6m
OSC
11h 6m
The PondCast
22h 6m
LAN Event
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 11h
OSC
2 days
LAN Event
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
LAN Event
3 days
IPSL
3 days
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
LAN Event
4 days
IPSL
4 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.