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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 16:50 GMT
#653
Reg is suspended as mafia until they make a paraphrase of discord logs btw.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 16:50 GMT
#655
Ideally I'd like timestamps too
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 16:53 GMT
#657
I don't think conversion or vivax are mafia. Conversion less so because his tt change seems a bit suspicious but other than that he's been generally fine.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 16:57 GMT
#662
On June 28 2018 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Shockeyy dumbtold him as town.
Holyflare, regfan is not mafia i can say it wirh 100% confidence.


Shockey did not dumb tell himself town. He's said it was a "trap" to bait mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 16:59 GMT
#667
On June 28 2018 01:54 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 00:44 CopCake wrote:
Before I forget because I am going to work

Ticktok’s suddenly change of heart on calix was pretty strange. Like if he knew from the beggining Calix was like a “Super God” playing mafia why didnt he say thay since the beggining? It would give me another background. I also didnt like his smooth talk of “appeal to emotion” towards wanting me to change my vote.


I'm not a god-tier mafia player though, lol. I don't know how TT has that impression of me.

I don't want to lynch TT and don't like how that might become an alternative to myself + Show Spoiler +
(this is based on my impressions of the thread: I actually have no idea who is the lynch right now)
when there aren't any compelling reasons to kill him from what I remember. What I mean is that I've seen a lot of anti-TT posts but I can't actually remember many of them and the ones I can remember weren't convincing.

If one of the people scum-reading him wants to explain why he's mafia or make an actual case instead of unremarkable one-liners then I'll try hearing you out. But right now, no way.


I could lynch you for this post to be honest. Not only do you exclaim to not even know who is up for lynch (it's TT and yourself) but then you full on defend TT for absolutely no reason when you don't even know if he has votes or the reason for lynching him.

You then provide no alternative.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 17:02 GMT
#674
On June 28 2018 01:58 Regfan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 01:38 Holyflare wrote:
On June 28 2018 01:05 Regfan wrote:
On June 28 2018 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Can we get some kind of paraphrasing of your conversations together and the medium through which you communicated each reg/gemma?

Discord.

And no, I really can't be bothered. I'm too tired and worn out by this shitty game. You can read our filter if you want to know what our reads are, our chats are just those in short form. If you can't already tell that we're town then getting a paraphrase of our talks together isn't going to help you.

-G


I also don't like this. It would quite succinctly tie up your alignment for me if you could do it. It really shouldn't be hard either because you just have a history log on discord right?

Why is the game shitty when you seem to have narrowed a quite substantial town list down?

Because it's fucking toxic, rayn made Regfan hate the game when he's trying to get back into mafia and find time to enjoy it again, I love Regfan and you have no idea how much that horseshit fucking pisses me off it's actually unbelievable how insensitive rayn and his girlfriend have been towards Reg. Not to mention half the players have just been insulting us for our playstyle. So yeah it's a shitty game.


I don't really understand what rayn did to annoy him at all to be honest. Your playstyle is good but it's just the fact you're a hydra that people are "annoyed" about (I'm pretty sure only mocsta or rayn have even commented on this) since you're not playing like a hydra, you are just two players posting from one account.

There have been toxic moments, yeah, and I apologise on behalf of the rest of us but please try to indulge the non toxic people and do what I ask since then you're pretty much confirmed in that case.

If you don't then I'm forced to believe this is all an emotional act just to get me to not mafia read you because all your discord chat is just fabricated.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 17:03 GMT
#677
On June 28 2018 01:58 Conversion wrote:
Tictock’s unlynchable bit bothered me and then he chooses to completely ignore the fact that I wasn’t trying to actually policy you and make up some crap about how I perceive you when playing together, and pins that as why I pushed you for the greater half of day1, which is just a flat out lie. I don’t see the reason for town anyone to misrepresent something I clarified about and then disseminate false information. It wasn’t even a mistake of misreading my filter, it was pulled out of thin air.


Thanks. I accept this.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 17:07 GMT
#686
On June 28 2018 02:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 02:04 Calix wrote:
Can we save the personal drama for the post-game please? Or take it to PMs? Or PM the host? Or literally anything other than talking about it in a mafia game?

No, i fucking hate shitheads.


Stop.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 17:08 GMT
#687
On June 28 2018 02:07 Regfan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 02:02 Holyflare wrote:
I don't really understand what rayn did to annoy him at all to be honest. Your playstyle is good but it's just the fact you're a hydra that people are "annoyed" about (I'm pretty sure only mocsta or rayn have even commented on this) since you're not playing like a hydra, you are just two players posting from one account.

If quoting timestamps weren't illegal, then I would be more than happy to just c/p for you. We have been playing like hydra and I don't get your insistence that we haven't. We disagree on ONE read, which is TT. What are you even talking about? Literally all of the reads I've talked about over the past few hours have either been things that we've talked about together, or things that Reg has given me charge over or asked me to talk about.

-G


It's illegal to copy and paste but a general time and paraphrase is fine.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 17:14 GMT
#695
On June 28 2018 02:08 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 01:58 Regfan wrote:
On June 28 2018 01:38 Holyflare wrote:
On June 28 2018 01:05 Regfan wrote:
On June 28 2018 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Can we get some kind of paraphrasing of your conversations together and the medium through which you communicated each reg/gemma?

Discord.

And no, I really can't be bothered. I'm too tired and worn out by this shitty game. You can read our filter if you want to know what our reads are, our chats are just those in short form. If you can't already tell that we're town then getting a paraphrase of our talks together isn't going to help you.

-G


I also don't like this. It would quite succinctly tie up your alignment for me if you could do it. It really shouldn't be hard either because you just have a history log on discord right?

Why is the game shitty when you seem to have narrowed a quite substantial town list down?

Because it's fucking toxic, rayn made Regfan hate the game when he's trying to get back into mafia and find time to enjoy it again, I love Regfan and you have no idea how much that horseshit fucking pisses me off it's actually unbelievable how insensitive rayn and his girlfriend have been towards Reg. Not to mention half the players have just been insulting us for our playstyle. So yeah it's a shitty game.


..........


I actually have to second this post because I just read through cop's filter to make sure and she has done absolutely nothing to regfan so the appeal to emotion meter is ever increasing.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 17:17 GMT
#698
On June 28 2018 02:14 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 02:08 CopCake wrote:
On June 28 2018 01:58 Regfan wrote:
On June 28 2018 01:38 Holyflare wrote:
On June 28 2018 01:05 Regfan wrote:
On June 28 2018 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Can we get some kind of paraphrasing of your conversations together and the medium through which you communicated each reg/gemma?

Discord.

And no, I really can't be bothered. I'm too tired and worn out by this shitty game. You can read our filter if you want to know what our reads are, our chats are just those in short form. If you can't already tell that we're town then getting a paraphrase of our talks together isn't going to help you.

-G


I also don't like this. It would quite succinctly tie up your alignment for me if you could do it. It really shouldn't be hard either because you just have a history log on discord right?

Why is the game shitty when you seem to have narrowed a quite substantial town list down?

Because it's fucking toxic, rayn made Regfan hate the game when he's trying to get back into mafia and find time to enjoy it again, I love Regfan and you have no idea how much that horseshit fucking pisses me off it's actually unbelievable how insensitive rayn and his girlfriend have been towards Reg. Not to mention half the players have just been insulting us for our playstyle. So yeah it's a shitty game.


..........


I actually have to second this post because I just read through cop's filter to make sure and she has done absolutely nothing to regfan so the appeal to emotion meter is ever increasing.


This will not matter though when we get the paraphrased discord logs with rough timescales though so it's all fine.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 17:22 GMT
#703
On June 28 2018 02:18 Calix wrote:
I really don't think responding to these emotional posts by calling people scummy for them does anything but make that person more annoyed. So let's not do that!

Perhaps we should just...move on? Ignore it? Decide on who a good lynch is?

Because THIS IS A REALLY BAD TIME TO BE TALKING ABOUT FEE-FEES.

Is there a good reason I've missed for Vivax being town, for example? I know TT thinks he's town for 'posting in bursts which mafia!Vivax struggles with' but I'm not so sure there. I'm a bit skeptical myself because Vivax's posts on Mocsta didn't actually suck.

I'd also switch to ShoCkeyy. Nobody's given a good reason for town-reading him and his 'dumb tell' does not mean anything IMO. I think his weirdly confident stance on TT/ Calix with little evidence, combined with his generally mediocre filter, makes him a way better lynch than TT or myself.


No, we should not leave it alone. We should be talking about how Gemma can easily provide a paraphrased log of discord any time now and give us a general time frame for each paraphrased topic.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 17:25 GMT
#706
On June 28 2018 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare, the hydra is not mafia.
Calix is though.
Make your pick.


I would rather they confirm that themselves thanks.

Calix could definitely be mafia for the tt post though too.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 17:28 GMT
#710
On June 28 2018 01:59 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 01:54 Calix wrote:
On June 28 2018 00:44 CopCake wrote:
Before I forget because I am going to work

Ticktok’s suddenly change of heart on calix was pretty strange. Like if he knew from the beggining Calix was like a “Super God” playing mafia why didnt he say thay since the beggining? It would give me another background. I also didnt like his smooth talk of “appeal to emotion” towards wanting me to change my vote.


I'm not a god-tier mafia player though, lol. I don't know how TT has that impression of me.

I don't want to lynch TT and don't like how that might become an alternative to myself + Show Spoiler +
(this is based on my impressions of the thread: I actually have no idea who is the lynch right now)
when there aren't any compelling reasons to kill him from what I remember. What I mean is that I've seen a lot of anti-TT posts but I can't actually remember many of them and the ones I can remember weren't convincing.

If one of the people scum-reading him wants to explain why he's mafia or make an actual case instead of unremarkable one-liners then I'll try hearing you out. But right now, no way.


I could lynch you for this post to be honest. Not only do you exclaim to not even know who is up for lynch (it's TT and yourself) but then you full on defend TT for absolutely no reason when you don't even know if he has votes or the reason for lynching him.

You then provide no alternative.


I actually hate this even more because until I changed my vote I think vivax was actually in the lead in votes.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 17:30 GMT
#712
On June 28 2018 02:27 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 02:25 Holyflare wrote:
On June 28 2018 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare, the hydra is not mafia.
Calix is though.
Make your pick.


I would rather they confirm that themselves thanks.

Calix could definitely be mafia for the tt post though too.


Oh really? I've just followed my TT post up with two lynch alternatives plus discussion that's moving AWAY from this emotion stuff.

Which you are completely ignoring to call me mafia for a post that is not mafia at all.


Your tt is town spiel is absolutely redundant because your follow up lynch is vivax who was up for lynch at the time you made the tt post.

So you pretty much hard defended tt against no impending threat instead of just seeing your biggest scum read was actually the lynch and trying to get more people to vote for him.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 17:34 GMT
#716
On June 28 2018 02:31 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 02:28 Holyflare wrote:
On June 28 2018 01:59 Holyflare wrote:
On June 28 2018 01:54 Calix wrote:
On June 28 2018 00:44 CopCake wrote:
Before I forget because I am going to work

Ticktok’s suddenly change of heart on calix was pretty strange. Like if he knew from the beggining Calix was like a “Super God” playing mafia why didnt he say thay since the beggining? It would give me another background. I also didnt like his smooth talk of “appeal to emotion” towards wanting me to change my vote.


I'm not a god-tier mafia player though, lol. I don't know how TT has that impression of me.

I don't want to lynch TT and don't like how that might become an alternative to myself + Show Spoiler +
(this is based on my impressions of the thread: I actually have no idea who is the lynch right now)
when there aren't any compelling reasons to kill him from what I remember. What I mean is that I've seen a lot of anti-TT posts but I can't actually remember many of them and the ones I can remember weren't convincing.

If one of the people scum-reading him wants to explain why he's mafia or make an actual case instead of unremarkable one-liners then I'll try hearing you out. But right now, no way.


I could lynch you for this post to be honest. Not only do you exclaim to not even know who is up for lynch (it's TT and yourself) but then you full on defend TT for absolutely no reason when you don't even know if he has votes or the reason for lynching him.

You then provide no alternative.


I actually hate this even more because until I changed my vote I think vivax was actually in the lead in votes.


Have you SEEN the vote thread? There's about 36396705 votes after the last vote count.

Sorry I didn't take the time to meticulously plot out who's voting where and how many votes XYZ has but it doesn't make me scum. It's not even remotely close to a reason to call me scum.


They're all on vivax and Shockey and you. Your two biggest scum reads and yourself. So why even make the tt post in the first place? What did you see that warranted you to go out of your way to say we should save him?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 17:35 GMT
#718
On June 28 2018 02:34 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 02:30 Holyflare wrote:
On June 28 2018 02:27 Calix wrote:
On June 28 2018 02:25 Holyflare wrote:
On June 28 2018 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare, the hydra is not mafia.
Calix is though.
Make your pick.


I would rather they confirm that themselves thanks.

Calix could definitely be mafia for the tt post though too.


Oh really? I've just followed my TT post up with two lynch alternatives plus discussion that's moving AWAY from this emotion stuff.

Which you are completely ignoring to call me mafia for a post that is not mafia at all.


Your tt is town spiel is absolutely redundant because your follow up lynch is vivax who was up for lynch at the time you made the tt post.

So you pretty much hard defended tt against no impending threat instead of just seeing your biggest scum read was actually the lynch and trying to get more people to vote for him.


If there's only one vote between a TT and Vivax lynch like you say there is (I wouldn't know) then how is that 'no impending threat' exactly when thread sentiment is against TT still?

And you're basically arguing that I went in, KNOWING who was the lynch...and then pretended I didn't? For no reason? Knowing that someone could call me out?

Have you considered that maybe I just DIDN'T know and it wasn't part of a master plan?

And I am trying to get people to focus on my other scum-reads so saying I haven't provided an alternative is objectively false.

This push is really weak, HF ngl.


When did I ever say there was one vote difference? Wtf?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 17:37 GMT
#719
My point is that you may have in fact not known who was up for lynch because mafia don't give a shit who is up for lynch as long as they are not mafia. You could have seen sentiment pointing towards tt and thought you needed to produce some content and that was a free post to make.

You didn't count on expert scum hunter hf finding you and picking that post apart though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 17:37 GMT
#720
If there is actually one vote difference btw i might just lynch you off of that alone.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 17:40 GMT
#723
You seem to know there's one vote difference :p
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