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On July 03 2018 04:44 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2018 04:30 Conversion wrote:
like am I missing something here? why wouldn't we lynch into the two people that claimed the same role? My personal belief is that rayn fake-claimed but is town, and that Koshi is the doctor. The only 'strong' evidence I have for you is that if Koshi is town, then he MUST have saved rayn, yes? I'll explain a scenario where doc!Koshi 'saves' mafia!rayn and show you why it doesn't make much sense: It's possible mafia!rayn fake-claims medic and then no-shoots. But mafia!rayn would HAVE to know a real doctor was in the game (since there are always two blues with me around). So if mafia!rayn decided to no shoot with that information then he has no idea who the real doctor is going to save or whether a vigilante would shoot on N2 or anything like that. He has no real incentive to no-shoot. Basically the mafia!Koshi and mafia!rayn scenarios are TECHNICALLY possible but also make no sense. Thus I conclude both are town. If you disagree, please find my mafia!Koshi post and mafia!rayn post and tell me how my logic is wrong, please. This is very speculative so I may have missed a scenario. But I think what I say makes sense.
I am mafia rayn up for lynch discussion. I claim medic to get rid of suspicion. I know there is only one role because we do not have a rber. I will no nk because a medic thinks it is a play and will save me and i become town.
If I no nk and a vig shot goes off I know I can keep claiming medic.
If I don't nk and a parity cop claims I can keep claiming medic.
I am mafia koshi with mafia rayn and I know there is one role because we have no rber. I will pretend to save rayn because it is mylo and that gets rid of two mafias as suspects.
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If we want to believe calix then it is objectively the best play to lynch copcake until slender posts once and then vote him.
If he is mafia he is modkilled and if he is town we kill mafia copcake.
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If Calix then becomes confirmed parity cop then koshi heals her. If calix gets off a check or dies koshi is mafia. If calix is rb koshi will die.
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On July 03 2018 05:11 Calix wrote:
Slenderman could post at the last minute though and thus avoid mod-kill. I'm staying on that guy.
#ritoky #ninjavoting
If he posts at the last minute then I will boycott any future game with this voting mechanic and post count of 1 requirement. I will also lose all respect for slenderman.
Why is self voting even a thing? Just don't count their vote and modkill them.
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On July 03 2018 05:18 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2018 05:15 Holyflare wrote:On July 03 2018 05:11 Calix wrote:
Slenderman could post at the last minute though and thus avoid mod-kill. I'm staying on that guy.
#ritoky #ninjavoting If he posts at the last minute then I will boycott any future game with this voting mechanic and post count of 1 requirement. I will also lose all respect for slenderman. Why is self voting even a thing? Just don't count their vote and modkill them. If you're mafia who keeps talking about mod-kills and other bullshit instead of playing the game then I will lose all respect for you ^^ It's a mechanic I used in the last game because I didn't want to mod-kill for no-votes and Kelsier copied me. You already know this since you were in that game where I introduced this mechanic. I don't recall you bitching about it this much then, if at all.
Yes but nobody abused it and it was still shit. Why would you not modkill for no votes when that is the entire point of this game that gives information.
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I advocate for no kill and see what happens tonight.
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I will not shake the mafia mylo claim plays.
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I refuse to game solve until tomorrow when we have more perfect information.
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On July 03 2018 05:25 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2018 05:23 Holyflare wrote:
I refuse to game solve until tomorrow when we have more perfect information. The perfect information being Koshi flipping doctor? There's zero point in no lynching when the only scenario that can come of it is one of the blue roles dying tonight. You're not even advocating for using the extra time to discuss anything! You're probably pushing for a no lynch so we don't get the chance to kill the roleblocker. Because if we lynch the roleblocker then Koshi can heal me and I get another cop check.
How do you know Koshi is going to flip doctor? I don't know that, I'm not going to presume that either. If Koshi flips doctor then we know he was at least honest about saving rayn.
We also THEN get to see if Slenderman will do his one post to stay alive and we can confirm whether you're telling the truth about him being mafia at that point.
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If Koshi is also lying about being medic and is mafia that did a no shot with rayn he has outed himself because he can't save you and then you get a check off for free.
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Or die in which case we lynch Koshi and one of slender/cake
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I see absolutely 0 loss to no lynching this cycle other than listening to you people whine about how we should kill someone.
You always no kill in mylo, especially with this amount of claiming in a situation where mafia holds all the plays.
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On July 03 2018 06:11 CopCake wrote:
I say wait for slenderman and rayn.
Slenderman knows me, and rayn knows slenderman well
But to be fair, if I was mafia, rayn would have caught it up inmediatly.
no, we don't wait
rayn has voted calix which means he isn't CCing koshi and is calling calix mafia
slenderman will post like one post this entire cycle if he's mafia or many posts if he's town
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there is absolutely no LOSS in voting no lynch
there is a LOSS in possibly lynching wrong
there is a WIN in more information than we previously had if we no lynch
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I mean the alternative is voting you calix so there's that added incentive
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On July 03 2018 06:31 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2018 06:25 Holyflare wrote:
I mean the alternative is voting you calix so there's that added incentive You've threatened to lynch me if I don't comply with what you want on 2-3 occasions now. So fuck off, scum.
Doesn't even make sense lol
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Voting no lynch is the same as unvoting
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I will lynch calix for you rayn. You deserve it.
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