[M]Chill Hop Mafia - Page 2

On June 26 2018 11:45 Conversion wrote:


I've done nothing but spam lynch Holyflare, so why am I townie to you?

On June 26 2018 12:33 Regfan wrote:

Hum. I'd like you to run through this a little more for me please, how it's played out is me mentioning a few of my concerns re; Mocsta to Rayn given he'd know him better than I would and asking if the concerns I have are playstyle based or not and wanting to know his reads there. Then having Mocsta ask me to elaborate on the concerns/what I'm talking about ther leading towards me making the post linking his earlier ones, so this "Seemed out of place" thing is kind of ????

- R

On June 26 2018 16:06 Calix wrote:


Because I can. But I've changed my mind.

##Vote: CopCake

Two reasons for this:

1) Asks stupid questions. This is self-explanatory. She hasn't asked anything that would actually advance the game forward. But they are questions you make when you want to LOOK like you're doing things.

2) Makes excuses for way too many players in way too short a time period which she is probably doing because she has TMI and knows that the players are being genuine.

I'll try and explain the part that first made me suspicious. The several posts she made where she claimed Regfan's post was a joke would seemingly imply that Regfan's post isn't AI (since it's just a joke). But then she says this:



This stood out to me because in the same sentence, she says it's a joke ('probably tried to be funny') but then also gives reasoning that implies Regfan is town for 'putting effort into claiming seer when there is a real seer'. I do not understand how she concludes that a 'meme' or 'joke post' makes someone town just because they put a lot of effort into it. Especially when she says straight afterwards that it is "probably a meme". The thought process seems a bit inconsistent here.

A lot of her posts either make excuses for players or town-read them a bit too easily for my liking. I think it's because she knows they're town and thus KNOWS they're genuine. Here are some examples of where I got this impression:

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I also hated these posts. We have this super-analytical start to the game, CopCake is in the thread as all this stuff is going down, and all she really wants to do is talk about inactives and defend people.

In conclusion, CopCake's early game and her attempts to hide how she isn't pushing the game forward is more likely to come from mafia than town.

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In other news, I've only skim-read the thread and haven't filtered anyone but CopCake. I didn't understand raynpelikoneet's wall-posts on me or how anything he said makes me scummy, not gonna lie.

Mocsta seems townie to me but the main reason I say this is because he's posting differently from his last game (where he was mafia). His tone seems more natural and carefree to me and I don't get the impression he's pushing any kind of agenda.

I haven't properly read the cases put forth by HF, Regfan, Mocsta, rayn, whatever, so no opinion on those until I reread.

On June 26 2018 08:15 Calix wrote:
It was clearly written before he received his role because if he was an investigative role, he (or she, since this is Gemma?) would know that Cops on this site don't get N0 checks.

Thus it's not AI.

I would like to know more about the two players in the hydra though. How many games have they played, where are they from, stuff like that.

On June 26 2018 19:14 Calix wrote:


Didn't HF just say that TT has a scummy tone and forced opening posts? I don't find it persuasive but I also can see how he might conclude that as town.

And he just recently explained to Mocsta that 'the phrasing TT uses feels overly wordy for the little points he is making and it feels un-TT-like' so what does he have left to explain in your opinion?

On June 26 2018 19:19 Calix wrote:


Your assumption is incorrect. I state in that very post you quoted that I think it's NAI.

On June 26 2018 19:25 Calix wrote:


So a meta/ expectation read. Sure.

Precisely how strong are your other town reads, may I just ask? I don't think TT is 'super town' myself; there just isn't enough evidence to have a read THAT strong in my opinion. So I would like to know how you have that much confidence since I'm not getting the same strong town vibes from people.

I'm also going to divert the topic onto something more general since I don't know you very well: How do you play? How many games have you played? When was the last time you actually played and specifically when you played with HF? I'm assuming you're an old-timer who was dragged back from the Stone Age myself