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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 16:38 GMT
#1436
On June 29 2018 01:32 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2018 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
On June 29 2018 01:09 CopCake wrote:
Your push*

This fits for a HF/Calix/TT team

Because if Calix or TT flipped, pretty sure it would be mafia, but if Shotkey flipped town it would look bad for them so they went for boxerfred.


If I am mafia with tt and calix why do I force them all to a guy getting modkilled instead of lynching shockeyy...?


Not to agree with cop here, but doing things that look like they mean something when they mean nothing usually helps mafia spread disinformation.


But it's stupid when if both slender and bf are town they are essentially free flips for me to not lynch. Even if one is mafia it's still stupid.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 17:40 GMT
#1450
On June 29 2018 02:33 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2018 01:12 CopCake wrote:
Also if we are fair, HF hasnt done anything during this game, which is kinda hypocrite for someone like Calix who make cases to rayn for “lol talking too much of other games”

Now I am gonna sit here and get a lot of shit comments of how I am biased.


Nah, you are right HF has done a whole lot of nothing this game. Very little analysis or anything.

I actually thought rayn made a decent point as well, HF had put Shokeyy as one of his 3 mafia, the about 12 hours later acted like he only then started to believe Shokey is mafia.

I still find it a bit disturbing that HF and Rayn have very different views of this game yet have interacted very little with each other as well. I don't really think they are a team though, so not sure what to make of that.

I still kinda like the Rayn/Mocsta/Cake team I suggested though. I could possibly exchange you for Shokey if I ever get to a point of understanding how you believe half the things you have been writing.

Mocsta at one point said "well shit if rayn is mafia, lets lynch him 3rd" Yet has offered no scum reads of his own to pursue first. In fact I don't recall where Mocsta's reads have gone since he made that case on Calix.


WHERE did this ever happen?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 17:45 GMT
#1454
On June 29 2018 02:33 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2018 01:12 CopCake wrote:
Also if we are fair, HF hasnt done anything during this game, which is kinda hypocrite for someone like Calix who make cases to rayn for “lol talking too much of other games”

Now I am gonna sit here and get a lot of shit comments of how I am biased.


Nah, you are right HF has done a whole lot of nothing this game. Very little analysis or anything.

I actually thought rayn made a decent point as well, HF had put Shokeyy as one of his 3 mafia, the about 12 hours later acted like he only then started to believe Shokey is mafia.

I still find it a bit disturbing that HF and Rayn have very different views of this game yet have interacted very little with each other as well. I don't really think they are a team though, so not sure what to make of that.

I still kinda like the Rayn/Mocsta/Cake team I suggested though. I could possibly exchange you for Shokey if I ever get to a point of understanding how you believe half the things you have been writing.

Mocsta at one point said "well shit if rayn is mafia, lets lynch him 3rd" Yet has offered no scum reads of his own to pursue first. In fact I don't recall where Mocsta's reads have gone since he made that case on Calix.


WHERE did this ever happen?

Also it's bull shit to say I've done very little analysis. I might have not been so present in the game to push my views but to say I've done no analysis is patently false. All of my posts dig at something or drive towards something and i make conclusions off of that all the time.

I even did post flip analysis on why it makes you and calix likely town.

Very bad post tt.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 17:53 GMT
#1457
On June 29 2018 02:45 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2018 00:08 Holyflare wrote:
Lol time to vote shockeyy tomorrow. My bad.

This was 2 hours ago.

Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 09:33 Holyflare wrote:
2018 power tier list sheep or die

Calix
TT

Vivax
Conversion
Mocsta

Koshi (potential to move up)
Copcake
Slenderman (why)

Reg (possibly not with rayn)
Shockey (possibly not with rayn)
Rayn


This was 17 hours ago.




The first post clearly reads "whoops I was wrong, lynch Shokeyy, I was wrong about him being town" but you clearly already had him as mafia in that list.

Definitely an inconsistency, but not sure if it actually makes you scum or not.


It's not an inconsistency at all. I thought shockeyy was mafia from poe/before deadline and I kinda thought he appeared towny a bit at deadline. He was in my scum list because I just town read the majority of other people after eod and he is the weakest and also kind of the scummiest.

Then he said some mafia bs when he returned that showed no critical thinking. So he was kinda mafia and then he was mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 18:25 GMT
#1465
On June 29 2018 03:09 Tictock wrote:
Actually HF, can you give me your thoughts on Mocsta?


He is an entity that has completely fallen from grace.

Null tbh. Want more.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 18:26 GMT
#1466
On June 29 2018 03:17 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 22:46 Holyflare wrote:
On June 26 2018 22:38 Calix wrote:
On June 26 2018 22:28 Holyflare wrote:
On June 26 2018 21:19 Mocsta wrote:
On June 26 2018 08:09 Tictock wrote:
Meh, don't see the point when that is literally everyone but us atm.

Ask me again in an hour...

Actually n/m, pointless voting is pointless. I'll prob find some actual work to do.
hf

Reading this agaib.. i can sorta see tixtock writing the strike as a joke. Realising its stupid so writes the next part but decides to strike as he personally thinks ita funny


But it's not funny and that's my point. If it's a joke it's trying too hard to blend in. If it's real it's unnatural. Just feels wrong no matter what to me.


Do you have any other reads? You're bringing up TT a lot to try and explain what's essentially a tone read but without really pushing it, adding new reasons, looking at the bigger picture, etc, so I am curious.


I think you're scummy and Vivax too since he created more discussion about the "pointless post" and made absolutely no conclusions on it.

Regfan towny, mocsta looks not bad like last game, rayn also not bad. Cop I will never read anything other than confusing.

Conversion is meh but I don't hate what he's said.

No idea who else is in the game really so my reads are super weak.


HF always said regfan was mafia but here he says he is town :D and when Calix had kinda some pressure on her calls her mafia.

HF trying to blend in maybe?


This is not true? I've always had an evolving opinion on regfan that is well detailed.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 18:27 GMT
#1468
There was a point where I overexagerate a push on calix to get her reaction and I liked it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 19:18 GMT
#1471
Problem with England back up team is they are shit
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 29 2018 07:05 GMT
#1569
On June 29 2018 12:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
HF who would you have shot as mafia?


You/vivax/calix/tt

I'd probably think I could mislynch you so I'd shoot tt who looked pretty towny and is saying the most since vivax town read me and scum read you.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 29 2018 07:11 GMT
#1570
On June 29 2018 13:10 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2018 13:04 Mocsta wrote:
On June 29 2018 13:01 CopCake wrote:
On June 29 2018 12:52 Mocsta wrote:
i think you should be considering with Conversion why he even has those opinions.

Everything is just loose throw away comments that echo others
"ohh, this person rubs me the wrong way"

Heres one for you, do any of conversions opinions that you share come first?
I suspect it does not.



He wanted to kill his mafia reads, never a town.

Unless you think TT and Shockey are both town idk how Conversion's pov doesn't work with yours since you also think Shockey is mafia.

Conversion tried HARD to kill Shockey to save Boxerfred.
Please listen carefully.

Do you even understand why conversion has those reads....

The act of follow through is non-alignment indicative. Both mafia and town have reasons to do it.
Its why and how that matters, and at least to me, its very much lacking with conversion.


To me actions speak more than a thousand of walls of posts with fancy words.
Words lie.
Actions don't.

The fact he tried to save boxer says a lot.

He could have stayed and then be like "THIS IS SO STUPID BLA BLA BLA BLA"

But he actually TRIED*

Unless he tried to be like "this is so dumb bla bla" but as a mafia point of view, why just not pretend to afk and be back later?

The action to me is what speaks he is town :/

Sorry.


How did he try and save boxer and why does that matter? If shockeyy is town too then he tried to kill a more active townie and hope modkills can give him extra town flips.

He also didn't try and save boxer because he only voted 20 seconds before the flip.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 29 2018 07:14 GMT
#1571
On June 29 2018 13:26 CopCake wrote:
I am going to re evaluate

Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 07:36 Tubesock wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count





Tictock[4]:Holyflare, Vivax, Conversion, Holyflare, ShoCkeyy, raynpelikoneet, CopCake
ShoCkeyy[2]:Regfan Vivax, Tictock, Calix,Mocsta, Koshi
Calix[1]:raynpelikoneet,Mocsta,CopCake, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
boxerfred[2]:boxerfred, Holyflare
Holyflare[0]:Conversion Calix
Regfan[0]:Mocsta,Tictock
Koshi[1]:Vivax, Mocsta
TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan
CopCake[0]:Vivax, Calix
Vivax[1]:Holyflare,Calix, Regfan
raynpelikoneet [1]:Tictock


Tictock is currently the lynch.

The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 27 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .

PM us if you see a mistake.




Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 08:17 Tubesock wrote:
Final Day 1 Vote Count



Tictock[3]:Holyflare, Vivax, Conversion, Holyflare, ShoCkeyy, raynpelikoneet, CopCake
ShoCkeyy[4]:Regfan Vivax, Tictock, Calix,Vivax,Mocsta, Koshi, Regfan,Tictock, Conversion
Calix[0]:raynpelikoneet,Mocsta,CopCake, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare, Mocsta, Calix, Vivax
Holyflare[0]:Conversion Calix
Regfan[0]:Mocsta,Tictock
Koshi[0]:Vivax, Mocsta
TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan
CopCake[0]:Vivax, Calix
Vivax[0]:Holyflare,Calix, Regfan
raynpelikoneet [0]:Tictock

Boxerfred has been lynched.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534884-chill-hop-mafia-vote-thread?page=3

So Calix and Vivax voted at the same time before end of the day to boxerored (2 min)
Tick tock and conversion 1 minute before end of the day to Shockey

If I think about it carefully, TT's numbers were 4, so if conversion stayed with him, it would be the same as Shockey. Both were mafia reads of Conversion's so it would work for him either way, then...

In a world in which conversion is mafia... WHY THE MOVE?

Is TT town and if he flipped town would clear a lot of things?

Is TT mafia and apply the same?

Why to take the risk of the move and be called out for it?

I can see conversion being mafia is TT is mafia and his whole read of TT was just bluff and copy/budding people as you say.



If tt is mafia and conversion is mafia then conversion is lynching his teammate. He has already said multiple times before this deadline that i should be voted for voting boxerfred so he can't vote bf to save teammate tt because he would look really bad. His only thing he can do is vote shockeyy.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 29 2018 07:20 GMT
#1572
Fwiw I don't actually think conv is mafia but it's still reasoning you've missed.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 29 2018 07:34 GMT
#1573
Gonna have to reread calix I guess. Maybe I'm just dazzled by people with big wordy posts.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 29 2018 08:08 GMT
#1579
Rayn why exactly was shockeyy definitely town before this night phase?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 29 2018 13:53 GMT
#1650
On June 29 2018 22:25 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 00:52 Holyflare wrote:
I would lynch tt in a heartbeat btw. Pretty confident he's mafia.

Just putting that out there for future shenanigans.
lol....


I once was a confident young lad. Then I got talked over by activity.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 29 2018 14:14 GMT
#1668
I still don't think tt risks his life by not voting shockeyy if he has a mafia team to care about?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 29 2018 14:15 GMT
#1669
I'll be real though I think 90% of tt's posts don't make sense and have no follow up really. It's that old catch up shenanigan.

Still can't get past the eod votes though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 29 2018 14:25 GMT
#1679
On June 29 2018 23:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2018 23:14 Holyflare wrote:
I still don't think tt risks his life by not voting shockeyy if he has a mafia team to care about?

Being mafia with Calix what do you think happens next regardless of if (or even worse) Shokeyy (doesn't) flips?


They both scum read shockeyy though? It's just called being wrong
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 29 2018 14:27 GMT
#1683
On June 29 2018 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2018 23:25 Holyflare wrote:
On June 29 2018 23:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 29 2018 23:14 Holyflare wrote:
I still don't think tt risks his life by not voting shockeyy if he has a mafia team to care about?

Being mafia with Calix what do you think happens next regardless of if (or even worse) Shokeyy (doesn't) flips?


They both scum read shockeyy though? It's just called being wrong

are you even serious here?


Kinda lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 29 2018 14:28 GMT
#1685
What??
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