Oh, I wouldn't consider that a narrative. My narrative is that long post from a while ago. About how you're playing for endgame. And oh look - after a full game of basically ignoring me, you're going to start looking at me now (saving me for later). Actually, you're going to start looking at me and byj, the specific two that I mentioned I that previous post lol.

What makes me more likely as scum to be oblivious to the fact that grack was obviously a better shot than you last night? If anything, I'd think that if I was scum that'd be the last thing I'd say because it would be too obvious to me, as I've literally just killed him cuz he's the doctor.

Also, I would have shot you n2 if I was scum and you were town. Or n1, but definitely by n2. You're good enough at solving games that even if you're not being particularly active, I don't want you sticking around.

I don't know if I believe that. It would be true is most games, but in this game, GB was always the towniest player, while HF was not, even having a few votes on him at some point.

Rels

France13467 Posts

June 03 2018 18:22 GMT

#1379

Now I'm gonna reread the most important parts of the thread. First of them, EOD1, as it's likely the key of the game is there.

Rels

France13467 Posts

June 03 2018 18:41 GMT

#1380

On May 27 2018 05:31 fuba wrote:

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This is starting to bother me. I know rayn can be stubborn (at least that's how I consider him), but I think he's actually on to something with Koshi and he's still not voting him to sit on a policy lynch.

I don't think they're both scum together, and I still thought rayn was town, but there's stubborn and there's this.

this post bothers me.

Rels

France13467 Posts

June 03 2018 18:42 GMT

#1381

Like, rayn is weirdly stubborn, but no worries he's still town ... what's the point of the post then ?

It looks like fuba is annoyed that rayn is not voting for Jealous' counterwagon, and he wants to say it, but he doesn't want to say rayn is scum. It's a roundabout way to say "rayn is bad".

It looks like fuba is trying to get rayn to vote Koshi over Jealous, without looking like he's doing exactly that.

Rels

France13467 Posts

June 03 2018 18:43 GMT

#1382

On May 27 2018 06:22 Holyflare wrote:

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what did you mean by that picture ?

Rels

France13467 Posts

June 03 2018 18:48 GMT

#1383

On May 27 2018 07:14 Holyflare wrote:
ahhhhhhh gb is just mafia

there is no way he thinks the above

NO WAY!

He comes back after scum reading grack and rayn WHO I EVEN CASED AND GB AGREED WITH AND I VOTED to say that he doesn't like the wagon because I'm on it because I never voted rayn and didn't reevaluate rayn??????????? He also says the wagon is formed based on a flimsy rayn read but town reads rayn but clearly this post says rayn is posting an outdated read (so how the fuck does his town read on rayn even form) but then votes on the policy wagon rayn started?????????

This anger seems genuine. And it also makes sense with the end of D1, where HF thought GB was trying to save Jealous and did his trap

Rels

France13467 Posts

June 03 2018 19:02 GMT

#1384

On May 27 2018 07:36 fuba wrote:
I filtered him and I'm not sure anymore -_-

Koshi's whole "GB, use this post to defend yourself later" thing seems genuine town.

Oh yeah. There is this too.

Rels

France13467 Posts

June 03 2018 19:04 GMT

#1385

There are some things wrong with that post.

First, that means fuba voted Koshi in the first place without reading his filter ? Which was not long at all.
Second, even though fuba is now townreading Koshi, he won't switch to Jealous or DF until the deadline. This doesn't make sense, because he's not townreading Jealous nor DF.

If he's town, I don't know why he doesn't do any of these things.

If he's scum, this post makes sense though. It comes just after I've posted that I would vote Koshi over Jealous if I couldn't get my DF lynch:

On May 27 2018 07:17 Rels wrote:
Jealous is a coinflip. I would vote Koshi over him. But I would really prefer to just lynch DF? I don't understand why nobody is voting him except me when everybody agreed he is scummy

Before my post, if nothing changed, you could assume Jealous was the lynch; after my post, if nothing else changed, Koshi would be the lynch, as my vote would hammer him. So to me, this post looks like fuba finally got his Koshi lynch, and is already preparing for Koshi flipping town, to look better after the flip.

Rels

France13467 Posts

June 03 2018 19:06 GMT

#1386

On May 27 2018 07:38 fuba wrote:
I'm not overly opposed to the jealous lynch, but rayn sitting on it instead of voting a legit scumread makes me nervous.

this is why fuba is not voting for Jealous, instead of Koshi, even though he now townread Koshi.

Rels

France13467 Posts

June 03 2018 19:08 GMT

#1387

On May 27 2018 07:54 Rels wrote:
I don't think GB is scum. I hate this EOD though. Team is probably something like DF / dyl / fuba, and just letting the lynch happen

Unless HF fooled me, I was right 2/3 D1

Rels

France13467 Posts

June 03 2018 19:17 GMT

#1389

well, that concludes EOD1. That strengthened my townread on HF, and I think fuba is 1 of the remaining scum.

His actions and posts make sense if they come from scum seeing his partner being a lynch candidate: softly pushing for a counterwagon, preparing for this counterwagon to flip town, not posting more than necessary.

They don't make sense from a town perspective: why voting Koshi without even reading his filter, just on the basis of one post ? Why not switch after townreading the dude you're voting for ? Why not call rayn scum instead of calling his behaviour weird but still town ?

I don't know who is his partner between DF and byj. Both have things for and against. I'll continue reading the other days.

Rels

France13467 Posts

June 03 2018 19:18 GMT

#1390

On June 04 2018 04:16 fuba wrote:
So why did I say anything about thinking Koshi could be town at all? As scum I could have just sat there with a good case against him provided by town rayn.

Also, I've been over my d1 vote twice now. My vote was either a throwaway at that point, or I could have randomly switched to DF to divert the lynch. Jealous was definitely getting lynched over Koshi.

I think you townread Koshi at that point because I just posted that I would switch to Koshi, so you were preparing Koshi flipping town.

Rels

France13467 Posts

June 03 2018 19:36 GMT

#1394

On June 04 2018 04:26 fuba wrote:
So in your mind, no scum will sit on a legit wagon until the end without conceding the lynch might be town?

Rayn's reasoning was solid on koshi. There is literally no reason for scum Fuba to just throw out that Koshi might be town and then sit on him.

I don't understand the question.

Well, I'm not trying to convince you that you're scum p: but this is wrong, your attitude makes perfect sense if you're scum. You can arguee all you want, you stayed on Jealous's counterwagon until the end, even though you thought he was town. This is a fact, and it doesn't make sense if you're town. Your explanations are less believable than you being scum.

Rels

France13467 Posts

June 03 2018 19:38 GMT

#1395

I'm not impossible to convince, especially in LYLO, but that's gonna be hard. Why should I vote someone else ? Your case against HF being alive D4 would make sense in other and longer games, but in this game I can see almost any scumteam without HF not shooting HF, given his play this game.