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On June 02 2018 03:37 Grackaroni wrote:
lol we found the same one.
it's not even the same one, that's the beauty
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he just likes that picture p:
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On June 02 2018 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
Someone just tell me who mafia is before I die from exhaustion.
I have a better suggestion: read the thread and decide for yourself.
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On June 02 2018 03:46 Grackaroni wrote:
In 2 years scum!LS will post that tinfoil picture again in response to being accused and I will quote this post as evidence.
sssh don't spoil my plan
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On June 02 2018 04:02 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2018 04:00 Holyflare wrote:On June 02 2018 03:44 Rels wrote:On June 02 2018 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
Someone just tell me who mafia is before I die from exhaustion. I have a better suggestion: read the thread and decide for yourself. I really don't have time. Grack pick a guy and I'll vote. Ok vote Rels. His play seems the most mafia-agenda driven to me.
Why ?
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On June 02 2018 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:From day 1 this: Show nested quote +On May 28 2018 02:23 Grackaroni wrote:I dislike that Rels refers to the Jealous lynch as just a coin flip when his assumption was that the scum team would be a team of lurkers. On May 27 2018 07:17 Rels wrote:
Jealous is a coinflip. I would vote Koshi over him. But I would really prefer to just lynch DF? I don't understand why nobody is voting him except me when everybody agreed he is scummy On May 27 2018 07:54 Rels wrote:
I don't think GB is scum. I hate this EOD though. Team is probably something like DF / dyl / fuba, and just letting the lynch happen + I don't trust his push on Koshi. From my POV HF was the lunatic town who hard pushed all of the active townies in a way that was unlikely to be done by scum DF was the town shitter who pushed Koshi but misread me/Rayn/GB etc. Rels was the player who read GB/Rayn/HF well but misread the only other player (Koshi) who was reading the game well and pushed a meta case against him and it seemed opportunistic to me rather than an omgus push. His misreading of Koshi just rubs me the wrong way I guess. Like Rels should have known better than to push the lynch based on how he was reading other people in the game.
For the first point, it was about the feeling of the end of day. It didn't feel like it was going to be a succesful D1 scum lynch. Which made me think the scumteam was just letting it happen. Not the other one around.
So it was: the activity doesn't feel like a D1 scum lynch => scumteam must be happy letting it happen => Jealous is probably town.
Not scumteam is inactive => Jealous is inactive so he's town, which makes no sense as you've said.
For the second point:
1. rayn had similar reads than mine and in particular scumread Koshi, why does that make only me scum ?
2. I disagree completely and I still don't understand how you and GB didn't see it. Well I mean, I was wrong and you were right. But still. Koshi was not townie, Koshi is often unlynchable as town, and he was not this game.
3. I don't think I would push for a Koshi lynch as scum. This game he was pretty low impact, but even then I don't know if I would do it. I think I would be way too afraid to fight him 1 on 1, lighting his fire, and get rekt.
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As scum I attack easy targets. This game I can garantee you I would have attacked fuba yesterday and DF today.
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On June 02 2018 04:24 Holyflare wrote:
When was the first time you scum read koshi and what for rels?
I kinda like what rayn posted during D1, not enough to make me switch though. During D1 the only thing I thought was good enough to be lynched was DF's comeback post being shit.
Then he continued being lackluster during N1, D2. At D2 I attacked him frontally, I thought he had a good chance flipping scum but I was less convinced that I appeared. When he barely reacted to my attack I was sure he was scum.
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On June 02 2018 04:29 Grackaroni wrote:
HF should we lynch LS?
Why wouldn't you ? His bait story makes no sense. And the only thing you townread for, you found out he could do it as scum.
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On June 02 2018 04:47 Holyflare wrote:I really haven't read enough
1. LS gets angry at GB, then explains it was a bait
On June 01 2018 04:07 LightningStrike wrote:
##Vote: LightningStrike
Decided it's time to do this.
On June 01 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 04:07 GlowingBear wrote:
Why are you so dodgy about your reads, LS? Just lynch me.
On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.<
This type of explanation usually comes from scum when they need to find an explanation fast.
2. LS explains the test was the following: if GB got angry he's town, if not he's scum
On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.< And what was your conclusion? More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes.
On June 01 2018 04:37 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2018 04:35 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.< And what was your conclusion? More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes. If I didn't get angry, would you think I was scum? Ya mainly because I would imagine you actually laughing and cheering for a potential free lynch but no you were super angry regarding that entire notion don't think you could do that scum knowing you very well.
On June 02 2018 02:38 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2018 02:37 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 23:52 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 23:45 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 21:12 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke up: On June 01 2018 20:04 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.< And what was your conclusion? More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes. This feels really forced. Like, there was no kills N2, and Grack claims he has protected GB; it's pretty likely that they're both conf town. Yet you're testing him ? Furthermore, I know you rage often as town. This feels like a fake rage, with an explanation when you saw it didn't look real. I was wanting to do it for a while just again very much a botched execution I did do a similar reaction test but that was super badly executed as well in this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?user=LightningStrikeOn June 01 2018 20:33 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 20:10 Rels wrote:On June 01 2018 05:09 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 05:05 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 04:58 LightningStrike wrote:
GB just listen to me there is a chance of you being wrong on HF's alignment and mafia might be in the df,byj area although if I wrong on a town read it would take a much closer look at Rels. I'm aware. I'm just trying to figure you out. I have so many problems with your filter. Yet some posts comes really townish. I'll check meta later, I need to rest from the game a little. Here are my problems with you: 1) You trying to say you're contacting the mods seemed like you wanted to get townread. It was forced and it looked bad. 2) I don't believe when you say you were testing me. You've asked for mafia to kill you at night1, said you didn't really want to play anymore, then you voted yourself. Were you thinking about testing me since night1? It doesn't make sense. It felt to me like you were trying to look selfless by killing yourself, and your plan backfired, so you came up with this "test" thing. 3) Why testing my alignment if you think I'm town? 1.I was just saying I had contacted the mods just so people were wondering who had potentially had contacted them since they were late on the Day post. 2. Ya I did thought about testing you since Night 1 but didn't decide to go through with it just was badly executed >.<3. Because I wanted to get a stronger read on you seeing how you and HF were butting heads hard Day 2 figuring out your alignment 100% was needed to make it easier on me. Meh. These claims on "I did this weird thing because I was testing you" very often comes from scum, it's always seems like a good excuse to somehting you can't explain. I will reread your filter after I'm done catching up. Will I find some proof that you were trying to test GB since N1 ? Found this, is it what you're talkign about ? On May 28 2018 08:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya I just not taking GB seriously even though I think he's town ^_^ That was me being a bit snarky at the same time that was just the start testing the waters regarding that test. On June 01 2018 20:36 Rels wrote:During D2 you thought scums were not AFK and made a mistake during EOD1: On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi. well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ? Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason. On May 29 2018 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 04:12 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:
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well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ? Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason. So basically, you think the 2 scums left are people who were not AFK at deadline, and who didn't vote Jealous ? So basically, they're in GB / fuba / I ? Maybe 1 afk at most. I doubt both of them would be afk. They might be in the other wagons potentially. But now you have the entirely opposite analyse, thinking the scumteam is DF / byj and was AFK EOD1: On June 01 2018 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 05:06 GlowingBear wrote:On June 01 2018 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:On June 01 2018 04:59 GlowingBear wrote:
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But don't you think that, if Jealous was the counterwagon, there must be at least 1 mafia in Koshi's wagon? Koshi and df were the only counter wagons to scum!Jealous so ya can happen but I refuse believe that since we had 2 counter wagons to scum!Jealous One of which there is a town - Glowingbear. One of us voted with mafia, under your perspective. I know it can happen just don't think Rels and fuba are mafia atm after my VCA which in conclusion had a very inactive scum team of df and byj at EoD which can explain how we were able to lynch scum with 3 votes. Why ? What changed ? My VCA unless I really voted with mafia on the Koshi Wagon Day 1 or you being mafia voting with GB then by PoE it was them which can also explain why the jealous lynched happened EoD. Can you link it to the right part ? I'll take a look at it in a few hours when I'm home. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?user=LightningStrike&page=7 Middle of the page area. Not as elaborate as this one but still was a reaction test to see if I could bite a scum or two. So you're talking about this: On August 28 2017 08:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Fuck you HF I will make this easier for you
##Vote: LightningStrike
I can't be bothered to defend myself when I rather spend my birthday doing other stuff. On August 28 2017 13:11 LightningStrike wrote:Damn tried to put a trap for mafia a easy way out of lynching lex if lex is mafia and no one was biting  ##Unvote In that game though you were trying to see if people switched vote to save scums. I can understand that. In this current game you were trying to make GB react ... and if he hadn't gotten angry he would have been scum ? That seems pretty far-fetched to me. Sorry to burst your bubble but yes because I know him well enough that if he was happy enough about that he would of been scum but I don't think I seen him genuinely angry as scum before so it was a good test just not very well executed >.<
That makes no sense for 2 reasons:
1 - GB actually get angry as scum: I just read 3 games of his, 2 of which LS was in, and in each he got angry at some point. See:
Post 1
Post 2
Post 3
2 - GB already got angry this game, so LS should already think GB is scum if that's his way of reading him. Examples:
On May 29 2018 06:03 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
Who is koshi pushing? Jealous was up for lynch for quite a while and yet nobody joined onto the koshi wagon other than ls (who I think/thought was town) and fuba (really weak gut read town). Unless both of them are Jealous' partners or his partners are afk then nobody gave a shit about lynching koshi to save their team mate? Koshi never really became any kind of majority when it would be the easiest counter push for mafia to make. This goes the same for df. If LS or Fuba are mafia why did they not switch to df to save jealous? Koshi seems incredibly meek from what I've skimmed and is probably mafia. His alignment is really the key to figuring out this game.
GB's end of day was really bad. I saw him criticising rels for pushing df at end of day but he voted on df too????? There's so many misconstruing arguments in his filter (especially towards me) and so many posts keeping his options open that it's extremely likely that GB is mafia. MY GOD HOW CAN YOU AGREE WITH ALMOST EVERY SINGLE THING I POST BUT KEEP CALLING ME MAFIA JESUS CHRIST IVE NEVER SEEN YOU THIS TUNNELED AS EITHER ALIGNMENT
On May 29 2018 06:08 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 05:21 Holyflare wrote:On May 29 2018 05:09 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 05:06 Holyflare wrote:On May 29 2018 04:20 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
GB's end of day was really bad. I saw him criticising rels for pushing df at end of day but he voted on df too????? There's so many misconstruing arguments in his filter (especially towards me) and so many posts keeping his options open that it's extremely likely that GB is mafia. Will have to reread how the votes went exactly, but I think GB consolidating on Jealous was the reason he was the lynch until he switched. Apart from that, I find his train of thoughts very townie, his reads are flowing logically. What arguments did he misconstruct ? really bad rels it's super obvious if you read the game even a little bit lol. Quote it then. It's before deadline where he says I never voted rayn and used it to try and deflect votes off the koshi wagon etc etc. THat's just one instance. Another is how his reads develop over time with no new critical thinking or development and then just magically change when the situation looks bad for his team mate. Something that massively weighs me in the favour of a GB/Koshi scum team is that GB scum reads rayn/grack ALL OF DAY 1 but then Koshi starts to be a wagon when rayn made his "outdated" case on koshi. Somehow that rayn and grack read magically changes to oh wait they're town now and he votes jealous with them. When I pressure him to explain that read he fobs it off and basically has NO reason that his read changed on them. The only correlation is that Koshi is up for lynch. We then know how the rest of the deadline went down where he basically switches off jealous for absolutely no reason and then criticises you multiple times for not voting jealous(?????). Furthermore, with regards to Koshi. I don't EVER believe he votes LS in this situation. If he has a pool of ls/fuba/df/you etc (which is already a major bs pool of basically people that didn't vote jealous) why would he vote LS? LS could have easily voted df in this situation to save Jealous but did not, Fuba as well. Koshi isn't critically analysing anything that went down at deadline. DF is the key to him solving the game but he refuses to vote there. I am pretty sure it's because it reveals that GB was the counter wagon initiator to save Koshi. OMG HF Grack was going to be the lynch when I switched to Jealous WHY WOULD I SWITCH TO JEALOUS TO SAVE GODDAMN KOSHI?
3. The posts where he mentions stuff he did regarded to the host are not natural.
On May 27 2018 00:15 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null Don't worry I discount your read on me since you can never really me for shit anyways <3 Anyways at least you posted something I was about to pm the mod to either warn you so you can actually post.
On May 27 2018 00:43 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 00:41 Holyflare wrote:On May 27 2018 00:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null Don't worry I discount your read on me since you can never really me for shit anyways <3 Anyways at least you posted something I was about to pm the mod to either warn you so you can actually post. ls is either confirmed town or bming the game btw so that's cool I was going to ask the mods to at least tell fuba and df to post since they only had 2 posts for df at that point and 0 for fuba. I just going to see fuba get replaced most likely.
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On June 02 2018 05:04 byj wrote:3h left, 3 votes on LS, holy/darth/fuba 1 DF + HF have yet to vote. Noteworthy how 'much' DF posted today: Show nested quote +On May 31 2018 12:44 darthfoley wrote:
irrelevant but i just watched the series finale of The Americans and i'm searching for emotions
I just want the Mafia to know... I understand you're just doing what you have to do. It is unfortunate that we find ourselves on opposite sides of this dangerous game. Also I only just now found about the filter button below the posts...
shit sorry. We should add that feature to the opening post
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On June 02 2018 05:12 byj wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2018 05:06 Rels wrote:On June 02 2018 05:04 byj wrote:3h left, 3 votes on LS, holy/darth/fuba 1 DF + HF have yet to vote. Noteworthy how 'much' DF posted today: On May 31 2018 09:57 darthfoley wrote:GJ Grack, wp  On May 31 2018 12:44 darthfoley wrote:
irrelevant but i just watched the series finale of The Americans and i'm searching for emotions
I just want the Mafia to know... I understand you're just doing what you have to do. It is unfortunate that we find ourselves on opposite sides of this dangerous game. Also I only just now found about the filter button below the posts... shit sorry. We should add that feature to the opening post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=31&u=HolyFlare&gb=forum&d=I was using this before, thought that's what you guys meant with filter
Even better, there is also a list of all the players' filters in the opening post.
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On June 02 2018 06:35 byj wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2018 06:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways should I get lynched which I can understand where you guys coming from you must find the next 2 scums and but I think you guys should lynch Rels and DF for the next two lynches should I get lynched it just talking to a brickwall. What makes you chose Rels over fubar / me ?
OMGUS. He scumreads you / DF; I attack him; he acknowledges I'm right; yet I end up scum instead of you now. This is OMGUS.
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On June 02 2018 07:02 darthfoley wrote:
Feel like a total shithead for not playing this cycle but I've been busy and I feel totally unmotivated.
Regardless, I'm reading up now (on page 62) I'm going ride or die with a Rels Town read. Mon ami français
This feels like extreme buddying if I'm being honest. Anyway I know the feeling of being unmotivated all too well
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lol we have this show called Koh Lanta in France. It's actually incredibly popular. I had no idea it was based on another show called Survivor.
So I suppose the ORG part means it's played online, mafia like ? You talk via forums or something like that
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On June 02 2018 07:47 darthfoley wrote:If you're familiar with the famous reality show Survivor, it's a virtual version of that game over Facebook.
so the challenges are played over facebook games ?
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On June 02 2018 07:52 GlowingBear wrote:
VOTE DARTHFOLEY
why ?
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lol classic. Dead game until 5 minutes before deadline.
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