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fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
May 29 2018 21:55 GMT
#1001
On May 30 2018 06:52 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2018 06:51 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm never swtiching off of Holyflare.


This was an answer to fuba

Ok. Gotta decide if I want to stick with DF when it's pointless, or just make sure the lynch isn't me by voting for Koshi :/ Seems like the two options people are actually considering are the two of us, so I guess I'll switch.

##Vote: Koshi
@theRealMkfuba07
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
May 29 2018 21:57 GMT
#1002
On May 30 2018 06:54 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2018 06:51 fuba wrote:
On May 30 2018 06:50 fuba wrote:
On May 30 2018 06:38 Koshi wrote:
Honestly don't understand this why is Koshi not voting DF thing.
It's ok. I still think my game was sufficient.

Things I said I believed. Flip will proof it.

I didn't really scumhunt per se but I voted the correct people. You guys didn't today.
I should never die over fuba. And fuba had to die this game.
For his lack of content.

At the moment you are, though. So switch to DF with me and maybe grack and possibly GB if he gets Hillary out of his mind.

HF*


He's definitely trump though.

Truth
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
May 29 2018 21:58 GMT
#1003
Man the df vote on Koshi though it's bugging me hard as he didn't give a reason for it yet everyone else not comment on that????????
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
May 29 2018 21:59 GMT
#1004
On May 30 2018 06:54 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2018 06:51 fuba wrote:
On May 30 2018 06:50 fuba wrote:
On May 30 2018 06:38 Koshi wrote:
Honestly don't understand this why is Koshi not voting DF thing.
It's ok. I still think my game was sufficient.

Things I said I believed. Flip will proof it.

I didn't really scumhunt per se but I voted the correct people. You guys didn't today.
I should never die over fuba. And fuba had to die this game.
For his lack of content.

At the moment you are, though. So switch to DF with me and maybe grack and possibly GB if he gets Hillary out of his mind.

HF*


He's definitely trump though.

😂
@theRealMkfuba07
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
May 29 2018 22:00 GMT
#1005
On May 30 2018 06:58 LightningStrike wrote:
Man the df vote on Koshi though it's bugging me hard as he didn't give a reason for it yet everyone else not comment on that????????


rayn brought up good points on koshi before he died.

hf and rels and gb brought up decent points about koshi's playstyle and how his alignment allows us to gain the max amount of information.

plus i don't think koshi has been that townie, and i like lynching people who verbally jack themselves off about their skill regardless of their alignment
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
May 29 2018 22:04 GMT
#1006
eh if i end up getting lynched, so be it. i'm not gonna waste a lot of energy defending myself.

i have no idea why gb actually thinks hf is mafia when hf hammered scum on three votes and had every reason to vote koshi or myself. maybe in d6 when he's still alive or something, but it's d2.

on the other hand, if koshi is scum, gb looks uber scummy.

so we lynch koshi and see what happens
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 29 2018 22:09 GMT
#1007
On May 29 2018 08:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2018 07:46 Holyflare wrote:
On May 29 2018 07:24 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm not trying to start a shit fight with you. I refuse to accept that a high profile player that I admire can play like this as town.

You're a logical player. At this point, with the whole thread telling you I'm town, with a lot of things pointing out I can be town, I'd expect you would at least reconsider your read. You aren't. Because you decided I'm mafia BEFORE having you arguments. And now you want to keep suspicions on me.

You've played with me a lot. You know I can be disruptive, flip my reads, hard defend mafia, etc., as town. Yet you refuse to try to see things from this point of view. This is not a townie mindset. This is someone trying to get a mislynch or to discredit someone who is being universally townread.

I have three main reasons to think you're mafia:
1) You kept accusing me of not doing things while I was, and you actually agreed with a lot of posts I made.
2) You've called LS almost confirmed town for a reason that is an extreme bullshit. You're a logical player, it's hard to believe that you actually believe LS could be town for that post of his.
3) You fucking agreed with me that Koshi's alignment is key to understand the game. I also believe that. But you think Koshi is mafia. If he flips mafia, both Rels and me would look bad. It makes sense, under your POV, a Jealous/Koshi/GB mafia team. But if the key of solving it relies in Koshi's alignment and if you think Koshi is mafia, YOU WILL ALWAYS START DAY2 CONVINCING PEOPLE TO LYNCH KOSHI, and once his alignment is revealed, if he flips mafia, YOU GO AGAINST ME. YOU WOULD NEVER BE GOING AGAINST ME BEFORE KILLING KOSHI.


I literally don't care if everyone on earth called you town. That doesn't make them correct. What have I agreed with you about at all? I've made about 5 posts this cycle and one of them is that koshi is playing like mafia and should be the lynch. The others are that you are likely mafia.

If you're not mafia then you should be playing out of your mind to convince me you're not and why someone else is but it's all omgus and useless crap like this that makes it really obvious to me you're mafia.

You're literally saying I'm mafia who lynched mafia day 1 instead of literally anyone else and now on the next cycle instead of any other player in the game I just push.

1) I have never accused you of not doing things. This is heavily misconstrued.

2) I don't believe he's confirmed town anymore because he's done it again and it looks quite overplayed. I don't think he's looking exceptionally like mafia either though and nobody has made a convincing argument why he is but they just keep saying he is for no reason.

3) I have literally just been doing that. Another post misconstruing.


1) + Show Spoiler +
On May 27 2018 04:40 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 03:43 GlowingBear wrote:
For now my hangover is too strong for me to catch up, so I just skimmed.

@HF: I meant "what's your read on me?"


I don't have a read on you other than you are on the scummy side of null imo. I'm having a bit of trouble after reading your filter tbh, I don't think you've really said a single thing. Specifically, I think it's your whole approach to the rayn/me situation. You think rayn might be mafia initially, you've agreed with my points on him and wanted a follow up and he's followed up since but you haven't interacted with him or re-evaluated anything around it at all and you keep making excuses to not play.

Proof you did it.

2) It doesn't matter if you're reevaluating it, as a very logical player as town, you would NEVER believe such thing. NEVER.

3) + Show Spoiler +
On May 29 2018 01:16 Holyflare wrote:
Who are we lynching and why isn't it gb?

No, you aren't. You're just attacking me. Where is your vote on Koshi.


PLUS, AND WAY MORE IMPORTANT, EVERYONE READ THIS:

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 27 2018 07:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 07:02 GlowingBear wrote:
I really dislike how this wagon on Koshi was formed.

HF is attacking rayn throughout the entire game
Never votes rayn.
Rayn posts an "outdated" read on Koshi (come on, everybody read those posts and it was also object for discussion)
HF, without reevaluating Rayn, decides he is right and votes for Koshi

Then people pile up for absolute no reason. Fuba decided OH THAT WAS A GOOD CASE, LS brings a very flimsy reason to vote Koshi which I heavily dislike (and makes me lean scum on him).

This wagon doesn't sound right at all.


LS is effectively confirmed town, I'm confirmed town and am hedging on rayn. I also didn't even read those koshi posts until rayn has pointed it out. I've also definitely reevaulated rayn to be a complete hedge and see how it pans out. (Also think his vote on jealous while making a good koshi case is more towny than scummy). Fuba is just fuba, literally no opinion other than I think his post being sceptical of rayn looked pretty genuine.

If you wanna talk about dodgy wagons you should just look right at the jealous wagon that's formed by a policy voting rayn, grackaroni who doesn't have a scum read and glowingbear who was voting with his two biggest scum reads that suddenly changed out of the blue based on little to no reasoning afterwards.

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 27 2018 07:38 Holyflare wrote:
Ok I will vote an absolute 0 content poster and nobody else. Jealous is not an option because I think he has more to give and questions to answer. At least he posted a bit too.


JEALOUS IS NOT AN OPTIONT?
If this is not you defending Jealous, I don't know what it is.
Also, if you really thought Jealous wagon was dodgy, that Grackaroni could be mafia and kept attacking people for calling Koshi mafia, you would hammer Koshi, not Jealous.


On May 29 2018 08:05 GlowingBear wrote:
Here are you protecting him AGAIN!

Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 22:18 Holyflare wrote:
you can't get more burnt out mafia than he is, Jealous has posted loads of pictures to do with posts and given actual reads and rayn is still voting him and calls me mafia for nothing and does absolutely nothing with it


Here you all can check why Holyflare might be mafia.
He refuted all my points saying I misconstrue his posts. I've brought evidence it is a lie.
He kept mistrusting me in a very convoluted way.
His narrative doesn't add up.

Most of all, he protected Jealous more than once, even saying he would vote any lurker aside Jealous. It's a very strong opinion on a flipped mafia. Moreover, mafia Jealous kept calling him scum without ever voting him.
I'm adorable.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 29 2018 22:10 GMT
#1008
On May 27 2018 07:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 07:02 Holyflare wrote:
On May 27 2018 06:33 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 27 2018 06:24 Holyflare wrote:
On May 27 2018 06:07 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm back, thought about Grack's alignment, I'm reconsidering it, also reconsidering my read on rayn, I don't see why rayn would protect him unless he is mafia with him, currently voting Jealous because of Grack's reasoning which sounds right.


Protect who?

If you're referring to grack then why the fuck would you ever write this when you think both grack and rayn are scummy????????


First I thought Grack can be town
Then I thought if rayn was mafia he would not protect town grack
Therefore, both can be town

Therefore I don't want to lynch them

Therefore I believe Jealous is a good lynch because he kept saying you were a scumlean but is voting byj + I will never be able to figure out his motivations because his playstyle never reveals the WHY he gives his reads.


Didn't really say this either.


I'm realising it now


You taking this back then gb?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 29 2018 22:12 GMT
#1009
On May 30 2018 07:10 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 07:03 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 27 2018 07:02 Holyflare wrote:
On May 27 2018 06:33 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 27 2018 06:24 Holyflare wrote:
On May 27 2018 06:07 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm back, thought about Grack's alignment, I'm reconsidering it, also reconsidering my read on rayn, I don't see why rayn would protect him unless he is mafia with him, currently voting Jealous because of Grack's reasoning which sounds right.


Protect who?

If you're referring to grack then why the fuck would you ever write this when you think both grack and rayn are scummy????????


First I thought Grack can be town
Then I thought if rayn was mafia he would not protect town grack
Therefore, both can be town

Therefore I don't want to lynch them

Therefore I believe Jealous is a good lynch because he kept saying you were a scumlean but is voting byj + I will never be able to figure out his motivations because his playstyle never reveals the WHY he gives his reads.


Didn't really say this either.


I'm realising it now


You taking this back then gb?


No? I mean, this is exactly what I'm saying here. By the way, when I flipped my read you attacked me lol
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 29 2018 22:13 GMT
#1010
I don't understand what you mean with that post HF. My stream of thought is very clear IMO.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 29 2018 22:13 GMT
#1011
BTW I won't be here by deadline, I have an appointment. Gotta go now.

Bye bye
I'm adorable.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
May 29 2018 22:14 GMT
#1012
On May 30 2018 07:00 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2018 06:58 LightningStrike wrote:
Man the df vote on Koshi though it's bugging me hard as he didn't give a reason for it yet everyone else not comment on that????????


rayn brought up good points on koshi before he died.

hf and rels and gb brought up decent points about koshi's playstyle and how his alignment allows us to gain the max amount of information.

plus i don't think koshi has been that townie, and i like lynching people who verbally jack themselves off about their skill regardless of their alignment

Okay fair enough just I didn't see your reason in your filter that was all.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 29 2018 22:16 GMT
#1013
LS who is scum?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
May 29 2018 22:17 GMT
#1014
On May 30 2018 07:16 Grackaroni wrote:
LS who is scum?

Fuba see my filter for why.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
May 29 2018 22:17 GMT
#1015
Only reason I didn't vote is because idk if shannies going to happen or not.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
May 29 2018 22:19 GMT
#1016
On May 30 2018 07:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Only reason I didn't vote is because idk if shannies going to happen or not.

If you'd have voted earlier, I'd be flipping town in 40 minutes.

Just sayin'.
@theRealMkfuba07
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 29 2018 22:24 GMT
#1017
On May 30 2018 07:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Only reason I didn't vote is because idk if shannies going to happen or not.

Shannies to who ... ? Isn't fuba your only scumread ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 29 2018 22:25 GMT
#1018
and I don't understand how you can townread Koshi. You've played with him so much. This is not how he plays town
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 29 2018 22:25 GMT
#1019
I'm refuting your case with posts where you've agreed with all of my statements.


1)

On May 27 2018 07:25 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 07:21 Holyflare wrote:
There's so many open ended questions in your filter GB that you don't care about chasing. Your question to rayn about his points on me but then no follow up etc etc etc

Just random questions into random alignment picking on people.


Exactly, and I was going to chase rayn but I kept not playing, and when I came back I had a reason to think he could be town.


You agree you weren't playing/doing any follow up/had to keep disappearing so I'm not wrong.


2) redundant - have done so in many many games before in exactly the same way and for different people. I think ls says exactly what he means the majority of the time.

3) voting koshi and was talking about him being the key/mafia before you interjected

4) "jealous called hf scum"
On May 27 2018 07:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 07:02 Holyflare wrote:
On May 27 2018 06:33 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 27 2018 06:24 Holyflare wrote:
On May 27 2018 06:07 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm back, thought about Grack's alignment, I'm reconsidering it, also reconsidering my read on rayn, I don't see why rayn would protect him unless he is mafia with him, currently voting Jealous because of Grack's reasoning which sounds right.


Protect who?

If you're referring to grack then why the fuck would you ever write this when you think both grack and rayn are scummy????????


First I thought Grack can be town
Then I thought if rayn was mafia he would not protect town grack
Therefore, both can be town

Therefore I don't want to lynch them

Therefore I believe Jealous is a good lynch because he kept saying you were a scumlean but is voting byj + I will never be able to figure out his motivations because his playstyle never reveals the WHY he gives his reads.


Didn't really say this either.


I'm realising it now


You agree he didn't really at all but he did for byj.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 29 2018 22:25 GMT
#1020
On May 30 2018 07:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Only reason I didn't vote is because idk if shannies going to happen or not.


What on earth are you talking about?
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