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On May 28 2018 08:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that rayn kill was odd I thought they would kill HF over Rayn but maybe Rayn was killed because he was more active within the last few hours than HF? Just WIFOM most likely.
rayn was killed because he was obviously town and helped lead a lynch on scum
it wasn't odd at all. if I were doc I would've saved him last night
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On May 28 2018 10:37 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2018 08:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Part 3 (conclusion)
Again, knowing Koshi's alignment is crucial to understand day1. If he is the doctor he should heal tonight and claim tomorrow.
Regardless of my reads:
Shouldn't be lynched tomorrow:
- Holyflare (important asset)
- Rayn (important asset, can be town)
- Grackaroni (most likely town, uninformative lynch)
Again, this is regardless of my reads. I strongly advise against lynching Koshi, as I think he is town.
SHOULD be lynched tomorrow (in order of my preference):
1) LS (forgettable and confusing play, voting the mafia counterwagon using a very bad reason while following thread sentiment)
2) fuba (forgettable gameplay, no strong reads, voted the mafia counterwagon)
3) byj (forgettable play)
4) Rels (could be mafia due to vote pattern)
5) darthfoley (if Rels flips mafia) Giving more thoughts to the votecount, as rayn already said, it heavily suggests mafia was afk at EoD. fuba was active and could've hammered me. So was Rels and he could've voted Koshi. Jealous was AFK, so he wouldn't be able to place a vote on counterwagons. fuba was here and could've unvoted Koshi to vote darthfoley with me and Rels, thus saving darthfoley UNLESS darthfoley was mafia with him. Rels could give any reason to vote koshi. I don't remember him townreading Koshi so it would be an okay play. He even agreed with Rayn's post. Darthfoley was afk. He was one of the few that could've saved Jealous without looking bad. I'm lynching between Darthfoley and LS. But i think Darthfoley will be more informative. ##Unvote
##Vote: darthfoley
Your whole scenario doesn't matter if Koshi is mafia
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I need to look at EoD and figure out what was going on.
Agreed that mafia dying with 3(?) votes on them suggests inept or afk mafia
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I looked through fuba's filter... and it felt okay.
I think Jealous's wagon is pure (rayn/grack/hf) probably. HF could have hammered me with rels/GB and bullshitted some reason to justify it. Grack's reaction to the lynch seemed townie enough.
Koshi wagon, i'm not sure. Really depends on Koshi's alignment here. I think there are two scum between Koshi/Rels/byj/GB/LS.
I need to reread some shit later today, but GB's switch off Jealous and onto me makes me worry. He, like Rels, were interested in anything but Jealous/Koshi EoD. Tried fuba, and me. If HF had actually switched like he said, I would've been lynched with 3 votes (Rels/HF/GB)
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On May 29 2018 00:52 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2018 22:46 darthfoley wrote:On May 28 2018 10:37 GlowingBear wrote:On May 28 2018 08:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Part 3 (conclusion)
Again, knowing Koshi's alignment is crucial to understand day1. If he is the doctor he should heal tonight and claim tomorrow.
Regardless of my reads:
Shouldn't be lynched tomorrow:
- Holyflare (important asset)
- Rayn (important asset, can be town)
- Grackaroni (most likely town, uninformative lynch)
Again, this is regardless of my reads. I strongly advise against lynching Koshi, as I think he is town.
SHOULD be lynched tomorrow (in order of my preference):
1) LS (forgettable and confusing play, voting the mafia counterwagon using a very bad reason while following thread sentiment)
2) fuba (forgettable gameplay, no strong reads, voted the mafia counterwagon)
3) byj (forgettable play)
4) Rels (could be mafia due to vote pattern)
5) darthfoley (if Rels flips mafia) Giving more thoughts to the votecount, as rayn already said, it heavily suggests mafia was afk at EoD. fuba was active and could've hammered me. So was Rels and he could've voted Koshi. Jealous was AFK, so he wouldn't be able to place a vote on counterwagons. fuba was here and could've unvoted Koshi to vote darthfoley with me and Rels, thus saving darthfoley UNLESS darthfoley was mafia with him. Rels could give any reason to vote koshi. I don't remember him townreading Koshi so it would be an okay play. He even agreed with Rayn's post. Darthfoley was afk. He was one of the few that could've saved Jealous without looking bad. I'm lynching between Darthfoley and LS. But i think Darthfoley will be more informative. ##Unvote
##Vote: darthfoley Your whole scenario doesn't matter if Koshi is mafia What if I am not mafia? Is it completely valid then? Because that means I can stop playing and you claimed mafia to me.
exactly right. See you next cycle then!
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On May 29 2018 00:56 Koshi wrote:
I am not really kidding. I am town. Your defense on a good point against you is "Koshi might be mafia".
But I am not. So how do you defend in that situation? Dont you agree it is odd that Jealous was lyncjed with 3 votes when there are so many active people.
Meh.
Mafia busses anyway and there are no blues but still.
I just agreed like 4 posts ago that the fact that mafia is killed with 3 votes means mafia sucks balls or they were afk
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I was afk, but I don't suck balls
That is my defense
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On May 29 2018 03:24 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2018 08:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got home and saw rayn died. PM'd the mods to post the day post when I noticed they were late on mobile (hate posting on mobile) >.< I probably wont lynch GB today just iwsh HF was here to talk to me to see where he's at with Koshi after Koshi posted some more in the night phase >.< Why do you feel the need to talk about you PMing the mods ? That's twice now.
I actually think it comes off as too dumb to be a real dumb tell. Seems forced like his fake rage in Millionaire
Time to get the revenge we've been waiting for for three years Rels.
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Rels's recent posts make me think he could be town
I just reread fuba's filter and I see no apparent reason from him to vote Koshi. Koshi is correct that if Koshi is town, fuba's vote looks especially terrible and he might be mafia. Except I just checked and he was the first person on the Koshi wagon. Would scum!fuba start a counter wagon on Koshi, of all people?
Frankly idk why mafia didn't just hammer me considering I was easy lynch bait yesterday and lots of people were okay with me dying (including myself)
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On May 29 2018 05:21 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 05:09 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 05:06 Holyflare wrote:On May 29 2018 04:20 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
GB's end of day was really bad. I saw him criticising rels for pushing df at end of day but he voted on df too????? There's so many misconstruing arguments in his filter (especially towards me) and so many posts keeping his options open that it's extremely likely that GB is mafia. Will have to reread how the votes went exactly, but I think GB consolidating on Jealous was the reason he was the lynch until he switched. Apart from that, I find his train of thoughts very townie, his reads are flowing logically. What arguments did he misconstruct ? really bad rels it's super obvious if you read the game even a little bit lol. Quote it then. It's before deadline where he says I never voted rayn and used it to try and deflect votes off the koshi wagon etc etc. THat's just one instance. Another is how his reads develop over time with no new critical thinking or development and then just magically change when the situation looks bad for his team mate. Something that massively weighs me in the favour of a GB/Koshi scum team is that GB scum reads rayn/grack ALL OF DAY 1 but then Koshi starts to be a wagon when rayn made his "outdated" case on koshi. Somehow that rayn and grack read magically changes to oh wait they're town now and he votes jealous with them. When I pressure him to explain that read he fobs it off and basically has NO reason that his read changed on them. The only correlation is that Koshi is up for lynch. We then know how the rest of the deadline went down where he basically switches off jealous for absolutely no reason and then criticises you multiple times for not voting jealous(?????). Furthermore, with regards to Koshi. I don't EVER believe he votes LS in this situation. If he has a pool of ls/fuba/df/you etc (which is already a major bs pool of basically people that didn't vote jealous) why would he vote LS? LS could have easily voted df in this situation to save Jealous but did not, Fuba as well. Koshi isn't critically analysing anything that went down at deadline. DF is the key to him solving the game but he refuses to vote there. I am pretty sure it's because it reveals that GB was the counter wagon initiator to save Koshi.
bingo
On May 28 2018 23:01 darthfoley wrote:
I looked through fuba's filter... and it felt okay.
I think Jealous's wagon is pure (rayn/grack/hf) probably. HF could have hammered me with rels/GB and bullshitted some reason to justify it. Grack's reaction to the lynch seemed townie enough.
Koshi wagon, i'm not sure. Really depends on Koshi's alignment here. I think there are two scum between Koshi/Rels/byj/GB/LS.
I need to reread some shit later today, but GB's switch off Jealous and onto me makes me worry. He, like Rels, were interested in anything but Jealous/Koshi EoD. Tried fuba, and me. If HF had actually switched like he said, I would've been lynched with 3 votes (Rels/HF/GB)
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On May 29 2018 05:22 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 05:04 darthfoley wrote:
Rels's recent posts make me think he could be town
I just reread fuba's filter and I see no apparent reason from him to vote Koshi. Koshi is correct that if Koshi is town, fuba's vote looks especially terrible and he might be mafia. Except I just checked and he was the first person on the Koshi wagon. Would scum!fuba start a counter wagon on Koshi, of all people?
Frankly idk why mafia didn't just hammer me considering I was easy lynch bait yesterday and lots of people were okay with me dying (including myself) Fuba voted koshi based on rayn's case didn't he?
On May 27 2018 05:31 fuba wrote:This is starting to bother me. I know rayn can be stubborn (at least that's how I consider him), but I think he's actually on to something with Koshi and he's still not voting him to sit on a policy lynch. I don't think they're both scum together, and I still thought rayn was town, but there's stubborn and there's this.
On May 27 2018 07:36 fuba wrote:
I filtered him and I'm not sure anymore -_-
Koshi's whole "GB, use this post to defend yourself later" thing seems genuine town.
On May 27 2018 07:38 fuba wrote:
I'm not overly opposed to the jealous lynch, but rayn sitting on it instead of voting a legit scumread makes me nervous.
Kinda hard to tell why he voted Koshi who he claimed was "genuine town" unless i'm missing something obvious from his filter
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On May 29 2018 06:37 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 06:05 GlowingBear wrote:On May 29 2018 04:20 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
GB's end of day was really bad. I saw him criticising rels for pushing df at end of day but he voted on df too????? There's so many misconstruing arguments in his filter (especially towards me) and so many posts keeping his options open that it's extremely likely that GB is mafia. Will have to reread how the votes went exactly, but I think GB consolidating on Jealous was the reason he was the lynch until he switched. Apart from that, I find his train of thoughts very townie, his reads are flowing logically. What arguments did he misconstruct ? The only reason Jealous died was because I voted him and he became the main wagon BEFORE koshi. Holyflare's swap didn't hammer Jealous. HF, let me ask you something. If I am mafia with Jealous, why would I flip my reads on Grack and Rayn and HAMMER MY FUCKING SCUMPARTNER? You didn't hammer your scum partner. There was ample time to switch absolutely anywhere. Which you did.
and if HF had done what he said he would do (lynch me), Jealous wouldn't have been lynched and I would have
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On May 30 2018 06:58 LightningStrike wrote:
Man the df vote on Koshi though it's bugging me hard as he didn't give a reason for it yet everyone else not comment on that????????
rayn brought up good points on koshi before he died.
hf and rels and gb brought up decent points about koshi's playstyle and how his alignment allows us to gain the max amount of information.
plus i don't think koshi has been that townie, and i like lynching people who verbally jack themselves off about their skill regardless of their alignment
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eh if i end up getting lynched, so be it. i'm not gonna waste a lot of energy defending myself.
i have no idea why gb actually thinks hf is mafia when hf hammered scum on three votes and had every reason to vote koshi or myself. maybe in d6 when he's still alive or something, but it's d2.
on the other hand, if koshi is scum, gb looks uber scummy.
so we lynch koshi and see what happens
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Interesting. Sorry Kosh,
I'm still confused why GB jumped off Jealous and onto me 
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I'm sure the doc will make the right move
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GJ Grack, wp 
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irrelevant but i just watched the series finale of The Americans and i'm searching for emotions
I just want the Mafia to know... I understand you're just doing what you have to do. It is unfortunate that we find ourselves on opposite sides of this dangerous game.
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Feel like a total shithead for not playing this cycle but I've been busy and I feel totally unmotivated.
Regardless, I'm reading up now (on page 62) I'm going ride or die with a Rels Town read. Mon ami français
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